I’ve had a genesis steel mountain bike before and it was great. When I was in my local bike shop the other day they had last years model of the equilibrium 20 and it looked awesome. Candy red with tan bar tape and saddle. Full 105 groupset too for less than £900 it’s a bargain. If I didn’t already have a titanium road bike that I don’t use I would have bought it there and then!Posted 3 years ago2orangey4crowsSubscriber
I’ve had one for a few months and really like it. It gets used for cross town jaunts, 50 mile rides at weekends and I did the Dunwich Dynamo on it a few weeks back. It’s a very comfy bike.
It’s heavier than the aluminium frame it replaced, but I don’t really notice the extra weight when riding.
The only thing that annoys me is that it doesn’t have pannier braze ons – though I notice this years bikes do. That said, I bought a Salsa seat clamp with the mounts on so it’s not a big issue.Posted 3 years agochakapingSubscriber
Funny enough I came to the same conclusion earlier this year – realising a proper winter roadie with full-time guards would be more use to me than my CX bike.
I was mainly looking at the Forme Longcliffe (discounted) and secondhand Genesis Equilibrium and Aether (the discountinued alloy version of the Equilibrium).
But then Ribble had a clearance frame sale and I picked up a carbon Sportive 365 for less than half price.
I think they’re overpriced as frame only but decent value as full builds. Quite racey geometry despite the name. Bit dead feeling but stiff enough and not uncomfortable. Still an OK weight even with SKS Chromoplastic guards.
Not sure I’d buy one again though, would be mighty tempted by a discounted Equilibrium just because they look so good – and the Aethers go for about £250 on ebay.Posted 3 years agolemonysamMember
I’ve had one for four or five years and done maybe 10,000 miles on it. Great bike that I’d happily buy again. It rides much better than the weight suggests and is very comfy on longer days in the saddle. That being said, what Jamie and Cynic-al say is true: it is less versatile than my cross bike. It’s much nicer to ride on road though.Posted 3 years ago
Cheers all, some good stuff to look into. When I mentioned that the crosser wasn’t ideal as a do it all I meant that even though I’ve fitted gaurds and large volume road tyres its not suited to longer distance road miles, I’d swap it back to a pure cross bike and have the new bike for road duties. Less do it all but more specific to what I need.Posted 3 years ago
Trek Boone is as close to the do it all bike you might be looking for. Light and comfy carbon frame with hydraulic discs. Mate has one and he loves it. Not Genesis money though.
I like my Genesis but to be honest the thing I like most about it is just how fast my race bike feels after I’ve spent a week commuting on it.Posted 3 years agoTurnerGuyMember
I have a 54 Croix de fer and a 56 equilibrium. Both with 100mm stems.
The Croix is more nimble and fun but the equilibrium is about longer and more stable for long rides.
I had an ti seatpost on the equilibrium with an old flute gel flow saddle.
The clamp on the seatpost failed and I replaced it with a carbon deda seatpost and ti charge spoon saddle, but that combo is a lot less comfy, it was the old post and saddle that have most of the compliant ‘steel’ feel, which I thought my steel voodoo wanga also had, but that is because I used the same seatpost and saddle.Posted 3 years agomonkeyfudgerMember
I’m considering a new disc Equilbrium frame, thinking I’ll put the old 105 off the race bike (stick some new 105 on TCR when summer rolls round again). Keep the Equilbrium for wet/winter rides. Just need to find someone who wants to swap some 20mm-150mm Hope hubs for some normal ones and I’ll jump on it.Posted 3 years agoDT78Member
I was set to do a frame only campag build, but couldn’t justify the extra cost just because I wanted silver bits on a red frame. My finger is hovering over buying, but currently waiting on seeing the new 2015 models and maybe a C2W purchase
I did have a sit on a 56 and it did feel more stretched out than my current roadie (also a 56) seems the genesis has a 110mm stem.
Where is the 20 £900 ? Cheapest I’ve seen online is £999.
And those that have ridden the alloy version, is the steel significantly more comfortable? Not much point in going for it if it isn’t comfyPosted 3 years agomikeypSubscriber
I have the equilibrium 853 which is a great bike, it’s got all the proper mudguard mounts even under the brakes so you don’t need those clip thingies. I rode it all winter and almost prefer it to my carbon road bike. I’ve got a 56 if you want to check it out(Manchester)Posted 3 years agodrovercyclesMember
anyone have one in stock/ or that i could have a spin round the block on in hants area? ideally 56
Not in your area but if you fancy a trip up to mid-Wales we have a fleet of Equilibrium 20 hire/demo bikes in all sizes and loads of lovely roads to ride them on…
Would certainly recommend them. We’ll be replacing them like-with-like next year.Posted 3 years agonevermindMember
I bought a genesis volant 20 back in march and as a few people have mentioned above about their bikes it is well comfy. I got the last one in the shop at edinburgh cycle coop for about 650 quid full tiagra set up. Easy on the uphills and brings a grin on the downhills. Not too quick on acceleration though but ok when u get up yo speed. Only bought it because it was better looking than the defy. Keep it at my dads & still haven’t told the missus i’ve bought it yet. N+1 & alll that.Posted 3 years ago
Did any Equlibrium owners or would be owners consider the Surly Pacer? I’m caught between the looks of the Pacer and the percieved better Reynolds tubing of the Equlibrium, I realise real world difference between tubing will probably be impossible to distinguish.Posted 3 years agostoooMember
I’ve got an equilibrium built up for winter and General Nasty weather riding. It’s definitely a road bike, with racy type geometry… Rides great with 25mm or 28mm tyres and still enough room for guards.
Now, I’m slightly biased toward steel bikes, as my summer bike as a steel enigma, with campy group and very light Strada 24spoke wheels. I love the looks and the ride quality, especially over massive distances. I used to ride carbon and just never felt ‘alive’ unless I was feeling super fast… Which is rare.
My equilibrium is built up with campy veloce groupo and proton traing wheels and a lovely set of Portland design works guards. I’ve no trouble ride with my buddies on their posh carbon numbers. Covered 100mile yesterday, in the pi$$ing rain! around the Scottish boards… And was very glad on the comfy ride and lack of spray off the road.Posted 3 years ago
YoKaiser – Member
Did any Equlibrium owners or would be owners consider the Surly Pacer?
1) i hadn’t heard of it.
2) even if i had, the headtube is too short for my tastes: i’ve already got a (roughly) 5″ drop from my saddle to h’bars, i use lots of spacers and an unfashionable stem to get comfy, i don’t want an even lower front end.
nice though! 🙂Posted 3 years ago
Surly Pacer is very heavy. The Equilibrium is not light by general standards but it is usefully lighter than the Pacer. It’s a useful comparison but between my Equilibrium and my Carbon race bike on the same 3km climb (avg 5%) I’m about 7-8% quicker on the race bike which is 3kg lighter.Posted 3 years agomrblobbySubscriber
A racey winter mud guarded bike… guessing you want discs too from what you’ve been looking at. I’d be very tempted to check out the new Saracen Avro. A reasonable weight compared to the usual steel offerings, eyelets for guards, fatter rubber, discs, and not a soft crosser/tourer. Though your bike would be a saracen.Posted 3 years agoFreesterMember
I’ve had an Equilibrium 10 for 2 years now. It’s my only road bike and I use it for commutes, training rides, sportives, club reliability rides, taken it to Majorca (twice) and even the occasional TT.
Great bike for me (Clydesdale 17 stone rider) I stick the mudguards on in the winter.
If I was doing it again my only change would be to get one with disks. I wore out a set of rims in 2 years (I think this wet winter was what really killed the rims).Posted 3 years ago
What cross bike did you have? Seems that a disc cross bike with slicks and mudguards would be appropriate?
Tom I have a Cube X-Race comp, alloy frame, carbon fork and 105 with canti’s. At the moment its fitted with Schwalbe Marathon Supremes and mudgaurds, even with the 35mm tyres its not very comfy over any great distance. The idea was to buy a new frame and use the Cube as a donor, wheels/drivetrain. I’d then strip an old Allez I have and rebuild the Cube with older 9 speed parts and just use it for cross.
I’ve been going round in circles with this for a while and I’m now thinking I’ll just fit some crud racers to my Planet X SL and but a whole new road bike next year.Posted 3 years ago
all else being equal, for a 3kg weight penalty to produce a 7% decrease in speed, then geetee must weigh (approx) 32kg.
Not quite but I do like your optimism! 😀
Actually 32kg is closer to how much I’ve lost since Jan last year. I now weigh 83kg (was 110kg)
I was being fairly rough with my estimations. I figured I was about 30 seconds quicker on my best time with the race bike than with the commuter based on looking at Strava times.
Are you saying that 3kg would normally give a much bigger time penalty? I guess it would depend on how steep the climb was; the climb I am referencing is the other side of Box Hill, up to Headley from Epsom. It’s not steep.Posted 3 years ago
i’m saying that (all else being equal) there’s a fairly linear relationship between weight and speed when climbing.
3kg would be (approx) 3% of the total weight of a rider+bike, saving 3kg would make you (approx) 3% faster.
in fact, it’s less than that, a decent climber will be travelling at around 15kph or more, certainly enough for aerodynamics to play a part.
so, save 3kg, gain 2% climbing speed.Posted 3 years ago
Interesting. I thought the relationship between weight and speed up a climb was not linear when you factored in the gradient; the steeper the gradient, the greater the penalty paid for being heavier. It’s certainly my experience in the real world.
Like I said the estimation was pretty rough. I was comparing my best ever time on the race bike, with the last time I did it on the commuter bike, not the best time ever on the commuter bike. So more than likely the difference will be less than I based the estimation on.Posted 3 years ago
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