That’ll do me, just like that with rigid forks – that’ll do everything that I want to do. Perfect 8)

When’s it available?

That looks lovely. Want.

+1000000

Suit me too, that is very nice and will do everything I need.

Bung a carbon fork on it & I’m in

Details here btw
http://singletrackworld.com/2015/02/hot-from-icebike-genesis-reveal-the-future-today/

Looks like a whole lot of fun 🙂

What size is that new Aksium wheel on the road bike beside it?

This looks brilliant!

I’ve wanted a Krampus since I first saw pictures of them, but it looks as if “+” is going to be 650B+ rather than 29+ as a mainstream platform. It’s all good.

🙂

looks really good,
looks like it need a really short stem..

really hope the Deore one comes in at a C2W price band 🙂

Looks fantastic, just don’t want to see yet another axle ‘standard’. I understand why they needed to do it for this bike, but 148/110mm…

650b+ Maxxis chronicle very interesting too…

Defo need a like button on here!

Wheel standards fail, though.

We’ve already had a 110 axle which was better.

We already have a larger rear axle standard.

Not to mention the other larger axle standards that fat bikes already have. It just seems like enormously hard work to make it ride a certain way whilst dodging existing standards, all for marginal benefit for the people that will end up riding it- most likely not particularly talented nichemongers.

It looks a laugh, but it’s pointlessly impractical as it is.

Oh, it’s completely practical – just **** annoying.

Pressfit BB – yukky.

Rest looks ace though!

It looks a laugh, but it’s pointlessly impractical as it is.

This is only a prototype, they’ll sort that out at production stage you’d hope. Personally I like it; I ride a Krampus which I love to bits and this looks like it could well be just as good.

But different
😆

Yes Tim, i’m sure 1.5″ smaller wheels will make all the difference 😉

for marginal benefit for the people that will end up riding it- most likely not particularly talented nichemongers.

If talent was the qualifier to ride any bike I’d have given up years ago. What a narrow minded thing to say.

I think it could be a real success. I for one would like a test ride, as am slightly ‘fat bike curious’ but really cant justify one. Most of my riding is tecky natural west of Scotland xc stuff, and my sole MTB is a Soul with 120 travel and reverb. I reckon that Genesis would compliment it well for a different angle on the same stuff, without going ‘fully fat’. I have been thinking about a Genesis Caribou, but that somehow looks more appropriate..

Rocketdog- talent is no qualifier. But 95% of people that ride bikes aren’t particularly talented, and probably won’t find the benefits of 148 noticeable, or more importantly worth the hassle of trying to find an axle for it in the nearest bike shop having left theirs on the garage floor at home when they were loading the car.

I suspect that the 5% that are talented won’t be particularly interested in a rigid 650b+ Genesis.

True, Be easy to make it 135/100mm after all genesis make a 29+ compatible with those standards, I suspect it’s a “coz we can” exercise & production might be different. It’s done its job & got us talking about it though

It certainly has. I’d prefer a different colour if I was being really picky 😀

I could find space for one.

As I understand it, we can have 3″ tyres (like the Krampus) with a 135mm backend (like the Krampus) and a 73mm BB (like the Krampus) as long as we have a single ring up front. Or we can have 2/3 rings up front if we do away with the larger cogs on the cassette. Funny how Surly managed to make all that work and yet now we need more “standards”.

i think that looks great

With deore kit that should sneak in under a grand and cycle to work schemes I’d guess. Looks superb

Not convinced myself I’m afraid.
The STW blurb on that bike describes it as ‘long and low’ and ‘slack angled’. If you’re going to have a long bike then why not use the space to fit the biggest wheels you can ie 29+.
Slack angled implies the intention of rattling down steep, rough trails as fast as possible. If that was going to form a significant part of my riding I’d ride a bike with at least front suspension.
At Core Bike I saw a Kinesis FF29 fitted with 650B+ wheels and rigid fork. That looked superb, compact and just the tool for ripping up rooty singletrack.

I suspect it has been designed around impending suspension fork releases as alluded in the article (although not sure why given i’d have thought a 650b+ must fit a decent size 29er fork) as that rigid fork looks sus corrected to me if we assume the outer diameter is roughly the same as a 29er.

The STW blurb on that bike describes it as ‘long and low’ and ‘slack angled’. If you’re going to have a long bike then why not use the space to fit the biggest wheels you can ie 29+.
Slack angled implies the intention of rattling down steep, rough trails as fast as possible. If that was going to form a significant part of my riding I’d ride a bike with at least front suspension

Looks sus-corrected with a good inch shorter back end than a 29+ bike. Boost standard forks due along fairly soon, more room than the forks that have had WTB 2.8s in at some shows. Those tyres look a fair bit bigger. Bike looks good in a back-in-black way : )

As has been said it looks sus corrected. Having owned three 29+ bikes and finding them all a bit unwieldy for serious trail riding, this looks ideal.

Anyone know of a launch date or confirmed specs.

[/quote]Anyone know of a launch date or confirmed specs.

Have you asked Genesis?

I have asked Genesis and they haven’t replied. If and when they do I’ll post up on here with anything useful.

Pleased to say that a few days ago we figured out a way to run a std 73mm threaded BB without having to resort either a press-fit BB (for additional weld surface area) or an expensive and heavy chainstay yoke and still good tyre clearance. That’s what it’ll be running in production guise. Still using the driveside plate but with a heavily worked non-driveside chainstay (1x/2x compatible). Plan is to have it as part of our 2016 lineup available later this summer. x2 models – one affordable build running Deore 2×10 and the rigid fork and another running a new 1×11 groupset, dropper post, new 120mm trail forks (w/35mm stanchions) and some new tubeless tyres. The idea behind the rigid forks was two-fold – have product early as poss. (the suspension fork manuf. don’t seem to be able to react as quickly as the tyre/rim folks) and also have an affordable option. Happy to answer any other questions but can’t go into too much detail about build kit as a lot of it is still to be announced.

What do Genesis consider “affordable”? Is that going to squeeze in under a grand?

They’ll sell lots of those if they can sneak it under £1000.

A smidgen over unfortunately. Still a limited pool of parts to choose from so this hikes up the spec (and therefore price) in areas we’d ideally go with lower level parts to meet a certain pricepoint. Mainly hubs, rims and tyres in this particular case. Lower level stuff will undoubtedly follow but it’ll take a while to filter down.

Still want one 😀