- Fundsmith advice for newbie
HiPosted 6 days ago
Fundsmith seems popular on here and the returns do seem hard to believe .
So would the well informed and experienced on here still say its a good place for money with it being at a high
I have S&S ISA with H&L but want to try others.
Also how is best to open a fundsmith fund..via H&L or direct…any links or help appreciated…
I’ve been with then a while and the returns have been great. I’ve bought a few other things to keep my savings spread but fundsmith always does the best. Obviously past performance is no indication and all that but I’ve just bought some more. I believe little and often is the smart way to ride any dips. I’ve got some direct and some in HL in a pension. Both were very easy to set up (almost too easy given the sums we are talking).Posted 6 days ago
Thanks..can i ask also looking here , pressume its the legit site but seems bit basic
I guess i could go for another Isa as ive not contributed this year to the H&L one but are the no Isa and Isa options in the link the same stocks and funds, just under a different rapper…guess the isa would be more efficient in interest tax if the fund is identical.
Also in the drop down menu it says Acc or IncPosted 6 days ago
..no idea what that means
Yes, it’s the same fund for ISA and non ISA version’s. No reason not to go ISA if this year’s allowance isn’t used up I went direct. Very simple to deal with. Easy to get through on phone if you need advice ‘re what forms etc. Easy withdrawals. I’ve been in since early 2010. By far the best of a few investments.Posted 6 days ago
To answer the above, that’s the website. It is basic but they only have a few funds. ACC is accumulation, so any winnings get reinvested, INC pays you in cash. For a long term investment might as well go all in with ACC. Go for the ISA if you have allowance. In reality it makes little difference as you probably won’t go over the limits but you might as well in case things change.Posted 6 days ago
Blimey pjm84..so would that mean 10k in 2015 is now £18,400 or am i missing something
Nope, not missing anything (other that failing to put 10k in 4 years ago). The performance of some of these funds has been great, others less so. Who knows what will happen in the next 4 years. But I think it’s still worth buying, especially for long term investmentPosted 6 days agosurferMember
I invested in Fundsmith when it opened, albeit only a relatively small amount. I have increased my holdings ever since and the returns have been exceptional. Of course they could could fall as well and that is the same with any fund or investment. I invested with him as I like his approach. “bet on companies that have already won and hold on to them” and the average age of his companies is around 100 yrs so the rationale being they have gone through a significant amount of market and economic turbulence and still managed to remain profitable/in existence! “dont invest in things you dont understand” and “dont try to predict” as it is impossible to do. He charges fees and has gotten rich off the fund (he was already rich) so I am no particular fanboi however my SIPP and ISA have a lot to thank him for.Posted 6 days agomike_pMember
I’ve been in FS for years and it’s by far my biggest fund holding. Folk often warn that the manager has only ever run money in a favourable market, but that’s actually not true – he ran the TP pension scheme along similar lines prior to FS and achieved comparable results. Personally I don’t think FS is particularly risky; valuations may be considered a bit toppy atm, and that may lead to a period of underperformance because the gains it’s made over the past few years may not be sustainable in the long term, but one could argue that there should be a premium for quality. The holdings earn 20%+ ROCE, which is exceptional.
You MUST do your own research though, it’s important to read about what the funds are in to, what the strategy is, etc. e.g. the folk who are now getting burned by Woodford had been warned of the risks for years, but were either ignorant or blind.Posted 6 days agothekingisdeadMember
Rule 1: Don’t choose a fund based on past performance.
That said I did buy into Fundsmith >1yr ago as I liked the philosophy / strategy (buy quality – hold for the long term) and its my best performing fund to date (in a broadly flat market).
As always, do your own research, and don’t put all your eggs in one basket (diversify). You’ll thank yourself if the curse of Woodford befalls a fund you’ve gone “all in” on.Posted 6 days agoduckersMember
Here’s what I like about FS – Terry Smith has a large chunk of his own money in fundsmith so truly believes in what he does. There are other funds doing well also, it’s a matter of picking through them and being comfortable with short term losses and understanding you may have to hold longer term if things go bad for a while.Posted 5 days ago
I use interactive investor as an alternative to HL, they were cheaper but have restructed their pricing from £22.50 quarterly to £10 monthly, still reasonable though, and I didn’t really like some of the funds on the HL wealth 50 or the fact they they seemed to promote news items about particular funds over others (e.g. Woodford).
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