- Froome – yes or no for the win ?
What can you do against a 5foot7 56kg rider given the course ?
stop him taking drugs?
this is an endurance race; don’t forget that Sky will know exactly what Froome is capable of and will be planning where to attack and gain time and where to suffer losses but minimize them.
Sky have Uran Uran and Henao to support Froome, who does Conatador have? One rider?
There are still big unknowns. How is Contador’s time trialling at the moment? Does Rodriguez actually have the legs for the longer mountains?
The Vuelta is a great race so far – really looking forward to the rest.
Boring stage today but then TT and then 3 hilltop finishes in a row!
Oh yeah, I reckon he has a big chance of winning, but needs team support to combat riding against Team Espana, needs it to cool down a bit, and for Alberto to have some more off-days like he had the other day when he was dehydrated.Posted 5 years ago
No the Spanish will work against hom to ensure a Spaniard wins
Don’t think they will, they all want to win. There just happen to be far more Spanish contenders, makes it look that way. And they’d all be happy to eliminate a strong rival, but no happier than if it were Contador or whoever.
Purito for the win.Posted 5 years ago
of course they’ll work together if it’s in their interests.
it’s not the fact that they will work together but that they work against Sky and Va Va Froome?
What I meant is that it’s not some kind of Spanish mafia, working against the plucky Brit to guarantee a Spanish win, but more that they’ll work together on a given stage to eliminate a strong rival with a decent team behind him.Posted 5 years agollamaMember
he still has a pretty good chance
I agree with the above – he needs to cool it and ride with his head a bit more. Attacking when he didn’t really need to, messing about with Contador, pushing the pace leading out Swift, etc, etc. Makes it interesting though.
He’ll be in the lead by tomorrow night anyway so that will make a difference.Posted 5 years agoJeromeSubscriber
The No’s seem to be getting it.Posted 5 years ago
The route seems to have been designed for the strong climbing Spanish riders.
While I remain sceptical on his chances, all it takes is one bad day from joaquin rodriguez to leave Froome in pole position.
Feeling a little like the 1985 vuelta.
Robert Millar 1985
The Scottish climber took the jersey at the end of the 10th stage and held it until the 17th of 19 stages.
Millar led a Colombian rider, Francisco Rodriguez by ten seconds, with Pello Ruiz Cabestany third, a minute back. On stage 17 to the Dyc distillery near Madrid, Millar punctured, and Pedro Delgado, who was six minutes down overall, attacked with a Colombian, Jose Recio.
After that there are several versions of the story. Millar, left with little help from his Peugeot team, who had all got dropped, was isolated. His directeur sportif, Roland Berland, alleged that time checks were infrequent. No one would work with Millar to chase the leaders. There are even suggestions that a level crossing came down in front of them, but no train ever came.
When he crossed the line, Millar had lost more than six minutes and the race lead to Delgado. Millar was second overall.
Exciting either way.
Wiggins to support froome in years tour ??JeromeSubscriber
Just been looking at remaining stages.
The TT is relatively short and has a big hill in it.
Quite a few hilltop finishes to come.
Looks like too many hills for Froome to win.
What can you do against a 5foot7 56kg rider given the course ?
Anyone think he will do it ?Posted 5 years agomildredMember
He’s lacks something – not sure what it is
He’s lacking a Froome.
What I mean is that Wiggo had Froome, but Froom doesn’t have anyone with quite the same caliber to pace him on the hills. The stages where he looks weakest are those where he should look good – but instead of pacing himself up there he’s been drawn into the Spaniard’s trap of trying to chase down short hard bursts on the climbs. if Sky are to use the same plan as Le Tour they need to settle him down a bit – he cannot beat them at this game.
So far, the climbs have been short and steep – the organisers even shortened a classic climb to play into the spaniard’s hands. Once they get on a long grind Froome needs to maintain his pace, ignore the attacks to a certain degree and ride his own race. he should put some time into them on the TT, but I can’t see it being enough. The longer climbs are where it will be won or lost for him.
Stages 14, 15 & 16 will be key for him.Posted 5 years agomrblobbyMember
Reckon Contador will struggle in the last week too. Can’t quite see him winning it. Froome will be lucky to finish top three. Maybe if he had his tour form he could, but he looks knackered and, as has already been said, doesn’t have a Froome to help him. Good Vuelta to watch though. Looks much harder than the tour this year.Posted 5 years agocrashtestmonkeyMember
sky “causing” movistar to crash and attacking their leader whilst he was down gave Team Espana every extra motivation to gang up on Sky. The fact that valverde was far more diplomatic the morning after suggested to me he was happy with how things were panning out peleton-wide, not that he had slept on it and mellowed out.Posted 5 years ago
The parcours seems designed to suit the spanish riders and Froome looks tired. Cracking racing though.
Maybe he’s unrepentant because he’s not a cheat?
Yes just like LA – I mean both have been convicted for doping offence by the relevant anti doping authorities – like that matters – and what reason could they have to lie about drug cheating.
Shame tbh as I was more upset by this from Bertie than LA as so many more cheated in LA era than now [ hopefully].Posted 5 years ago
Yes i would rather see an unrepentant drug cheat win the race as well. It will be another great day for cycling if he does it
Thought hard about this, and TBH I couldn’t give a toss if he’s apologised or not. The amount of anti-Spanish sentiment (not just on here) is getting on my tits, and Contador seems a decent enough guy. Would rather see him win than Froome.Posted 5 years ago
Heard enough interviews with Contador, would be quite happy to go for a ride or beer with him. Seems a nice guy, humble, and I love the way he attacks. Enough for me.
Froome strikes me as a bit of a tosser, the way he was accelerating despite Wiggins, look-at-me-look-at-me.
Wiggins vs Contador, I’ll go with Wiggo. Froome? No.Posted 5 years agomrhoppySubscriber
IMHO Froome isn’t coming out of the Vuelta too well, saying they weren’t aware that Valve’ had crashed in the interview as the excuse for not slowing only to have his DS contradict him shows a lack of class. If you’re going to attack a man down then at least have the balls to stand by the decision, if he didn’t hear AND he heard go instead of slow on the tour then maybe he needs to go to get his ears checked.
I don’t think it’s that he doesn’t have the support, with Flecha, Stannard, Porte, Henao and Uran he should be able to control stages better. It’s more that he doesn’t appear to be managing Sky that well and gets distracted into playing games with the Spanish on their terms on the hills. Wiggins was making similar mistakes when he moved to Sky and started to ride as team leader not just super domestiqe, team leader requires some learning.Posted 5 years agoLiferSubscriber
Great finish by Rodriguez and glad he pipped Bertie to the post. Froome’s attack was bizarre, if he hadn’t done that I reckon he would have hung on to Valverde.
EDIT – it’s been a long and hard season for Froome and IMO he’s doing amazingly well to still be in contact with the top riders.Posted 5 years ago
Froome isn’t coming out of the Vuelta too well, saying they weren’t aware that Valve’ had crashed in the interview as the excuse for not slowing only to have his DS contradict him shows a lack of class. If you’re going to attack a man down then at least have the balls to stand by the decision, if he didn’t hear AND he heard go instead of slow on the tour then maybe he needs to go to get his ears checked.
I must say that when he was explaining himself at the end of the stage after both of those incidents he struck me as looking a bit shifty, like he didn’t really believe what he was saying himself.Posted 5 years ago
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