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Fox forks = poo poo?
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orangeboyFree Member
We do see a trashed csu at about one a month on the bikes that come through the workshop
But Personaly I like most of my fox forks ( 34 talas seem rather poor but getting sorted slowly) and with tlc they last just fine.
One of my riding pals wore the coating off his lyriks the parts would have been about £400 to get fixed
Even with recent price rises fox are half thatPeterPoddyFree MemberYou must be clearly bull shitting there
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Which part?
Because I’m not at all.
I’ve done 4 sets and one rear shock for one person alone this year. I was thinking 20+ sets purely based on how many 1l bottles of 10w suspension oil I’ve got through recently. 5 forks per bottle, and at least 4, 5, 6 bottles…..I only do Fox and Rockshox, but I service a considerable amount of them, and shocks too. Bring your forks along, I’ll teach you how it’s done.
Fox are not as bad as people who know very little think they are.
mikewsmithFree MemberWhich part?
Because I’m not at all.If PW says you are then you must be:)
ReluctantFree MemberBack in the day, Fox stanchions were pretty crap (going back 10 years plus), but my recent forks have been fine. Prefer the action of Fox over Rock Shox and Marzocchis I’ve owned and the weights are good too.
NobbyFull MemberThe last pair of Fox I had were F100 RLC’s & they were mint after 3 years riding when I sold ’em. Been on SID’s for the last 3 years and, despite regular servicing, are showing signs of wear & a creaking CSU – all normally “expected” on Fox.
Just picked up a used set of F Series which are the same age as the SID’s yet immaculate by comparison.
grumFree MemberGlad I just sold mine.
They were ok but as they were n my holiday bike probably only got used for 30 days or riding, 6 or 7 hours a day.
I couldn’t live with the servicing if they were n my UK bike!I’ve never serviced my 36 Vans myself – had them for years then recently got a professional service and they were absolutely fine. Couldn’t say the same for the Pikes where the stanchions wore down like crazy and they started pissing oil after only a year’s use.
Fox forks are ludicrously expensive now though.
chilled76Free MemberYou know what is “poo poo”?
… The grammar in your initial post. Seriously, that was a terrible attempt at expressing an opinion!
grenFree MemberI must have serviced 20+ sets of Fox forks this year (I’ve done 3 this week). I’ve probably seen the inside of more forks in general than all but the Big Boys like Loco and TFTuned.
I’ve only ever seen one set of worn Fox forks which are actually sitting in my garage as I type. They’re 8 years old. I’ve done the seals and a service and I reckon they’ll go into double digits as they are. Which is pretty good in my bookWas worried when I read that Peter. Then I read the age of the worn forks. Guess mine were the other 2 sets this week!!
And no bullshit in his post. He’s done 2 fox forks and a fox shock for me this week.
pjm84Free MemberI’ve never serviced my 36 Vans myself – had them for years
Mine were completely shagged after 2 years on my Spicy. A bike that I used for trail centre duty so ridden infrequently.
Out of the three Fox forks I’ve owned, the wear rate on two of them has been appalling. Strangely the third was unmarked. At the other end I’ve never had a problem with Fox rear shocks and never had one serviced or felt the need to have one serviced.
I spent more on the last bike to avoid the Fox fork on the lower model.
scottalejFree MemberI can never get Fox forks to work very well. I have Fox F120 RLC 29 on my Rumblefish.
I can set them up to be plush so they soak up all the bumps brilliantly but then on steep descents they sit at full travel giving no suspension.
Or, I add some more air to stop it diving through its travel on descents and it rides harshly.
I don’t have this problem with Rockshox.discoduckFree MemberI’ve got a pair of Fox 36 VAN RC2’s on a Nomad, mine do the peaks, Wharncliffe and most of the major trail centres so they’re ok for half my riding but not the other half ?
In your opinion !
Thank god I don’t listen to know it all guru’s who spend valuable riding time posting shite sorry I mean poo poo ! And blaming the bike parts for their inadequacy !
I wished I’d got a quid for every rider I’d seen throwing their bike about because it made them face plant off a drop or come up short on a gap jump !
It’s always the bikes fault as well !PeterPoddyFree MemberWas worried when I read that Peter. Then I read the age of the worn forks. Guess mine were the other 2 sets this week!!
And no bullshit in his post. He’s done 2 fox forks and a fox shock for me this week.Hi Gren
Yeah yours were fine mate.
Thanks for the back up too! 🙂Kryton57Full MemberNobby – Member
The last pair of Fox I had were F100 RLC’s & they were mint after 3 years riding when I sold ’em. Been on SID’s for the last 3 years and, despite regular servicing, are showing signs of wear & a creaking CSU – all normally “expected” on Fox.Just picked up a used set of F Series which are the same age as the SID’s yet immaculate by comparison.
Similar to Nobby, I have some 2010 F120’s FIT on my Yeti (reviewed in 2010 as the perfect trail fork) which were described as “mint” when serviced last year.
I have dual air RLT SIDS on the other bike and have two issues: a) For the money, there seems to be not much going on inside them b) there’s not a lot of small bump compliance. I know this not to be setup after [posting a fair bit about it and comparing with others with the same fork. IMO the SIDS are a racing fork which can be used for Trails, the F120 a trail fork which could be used for racing.
I wouldn’t want to pay £800 for a set of fox’s though.
mrmonkfingerFree MemberI have this sneaking suspicion fox forks are perfectly ok.
Barring the infrequent aforementioned incidents of inexplicably rapid wear.
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTRFull MemberIn 14 years of using spending forks I’ve had 5 sets.
’99 Manitou Spyder RS – blew up within 6 months and we’re replaced under warrant at which point I upgraded them to….
2000 Manitou X-Vert Supers – I’ll come back to these in a mo
2006 Fox Float 140’s – used for 3 years on Spesh Enduro and were still fine when I sold em.
Spesh E150 SL’s that came on my S-Works. They were lovely and stiff, ok for big hits but just as crap as all the reputed started for everything else. After 4 years and not being serviced they have now bitten the dust. Needed a service and we’re weeping oil from the negative air leg. Didn’t have the heart to pay money to get them fixed.
So, not wanting to pay £900 for Fox, or nearly as much for Marz, I’ve ended up with X-Fusion. Seem great out of the box but have no more input to give yet as I’m not in the country to ride em.
So – my experience with Fox has been fine – and they were bloody nice to ride.
However – Manitou, err didn’t everyone call em Manipoo? They are still going strong – spring and elastomer. Been serviced once in 13 years. Obviously don’t get ridden every day but just goes to show – different experiences
PeterPoddyFree MemberI see Pussywillow has come over all quiet since I called his bluff…….
pinheadFree MemberI’ve got a pair of Fox 36 VAN RC2’s on a Nomad, mine do the peaks, Wharncliffe and most of the major trail centres so they’re ok for half my riding but not the other half ?
Ey pal you got it spot on there
Hopk1nsFree MemberHey natural riding gnarly dude…..your probably not as good as you think you are. For one you don’t know how to set forks up.
PeterPoddyFree MemberI’m interested in knowing one thing:
What’s the difference between a bump at, say, Afan to a bump in, say, Cut Gate? How does that make a difference to a fork?
Hmmmmm……ratherbeintobagoFull MemberI see Pussywillow has come over all quiet since I called his bluff…….
I assume he’s off somewhere else ranting about 29ers? 😛
pinheadFree MemberNot much pal as cut Gay I mean gate is a bit like a trail centre now innit
matther01Free MemberNever had anything other than fox, either as stock on new bike or purchased new at a greatly reduced price.
No issues so far over 10 years and being 12st, never noticed noticeable flex on my 32s or talas and run a few more psi and less damping which appears to help the dive factor.
Not sure about servicing them myself as i cant even put up a level bookshelf…so it does cost.
pussywillowFree MemberPeterPoddy – Member
I see Pussywillow has come over all quiet since I called his bluff…….POSTED 8 HOURS AGO # REPORT-POST
Ok peterpoddy, I’m a man of my word if you or any one else on here want to prove that I’m talking shit and my riding isn’t up to it to qualify that fox are Shiite then I openly offer a ride off, which will envolve proper mountain bike trails that I would say a descent set of trail forks should be easily left undamaged, fox forks are weak and shite, will you accept my ride off to prove my theory or will you stick to being a keyboard warrior, the choice is yours pal???
ToastyFull MemberOk peterpoddy, I’m a boy of my word
Fixed.
That Gee Atherton fellow, he always sticks to the easy trails.
People are moaning about stanchion wear, which is caused by dirt being left on the seals over the course of months. Not going out for a ride and your forks exploding.
The only Fox I’ve had with stanchion wear are some that I bought off the forum. My own sets I keep the seals clean, no issues in any, the oldest at the moment being about 5 years old. I’ve had multiple sets of Rockshocks dying, for a variety of reasons, never have a set of Fox died.
horaFree MemberI”ve only ever owned fox rear shocks.
My first Van 125 fork (I was one of the owners in the UK) were amazing and my 02 36 floats survived my hamfisted muppetry.
All other forks, well. Nuff said. Now I cant afford Fox!
Awesome products. IMO.mikewsmithFree Member
And some totally unacceptable Fox Stanchion wear on my 2006 36’s which get a lowers service every 1-2 years. Seals need doing but it has been 4 years since they were done.
and look at these guys just mincing round on fox forks..
[img]http://www.ridefox.com/newspics/newspic_1165-2458.jpg[/img]andymc06Free MemberAccept the ride off! That’ll prove a point scientifically and definitively 🙄
horaFree MemberWhat annoys me is the Mojo/Fox servicing costs- upto a third of RRP on shocks is ridiculous. Especially if the shock is VERY simple internally.
Daylight robbery.
chestrockwellFull MemberFox forks are very nice and perform very well from my experiance. They do/did make the stantions out of cheese though and you do see a far higher % with worn stantions then other brands.
wreckerFree MemberMarzochi are for real riders!
Andreau- bent 888’s
Hopkins- snapped 888’s
Doerfling- snapped 888’s
I like marz stuffs, I like fox stuffs. Blind brand whoring is a sign of a juvenile mentality.
NorthwindFull MemberIf I’m ever buying a fork for the Rampage I’ll bear that in mind 😆 The fact that these are really downhill race forks but can still be used for absolute madness is pretty impressive.
wreckerFree MemberIf I’m ever buying a fork for the Rampage I’ll bear that in mind
Well no 40s or boxxers broke, which are also a a DH race fork so it’s relevant.
NorthwindFull MemberPeople have broken other forks (and ridden succesfully on 888s) so it’s a bit of an odd argument tbh- things break, and things are more likely to break when you’re doing something daft, so it’s hard to see it as useful info…
Romaniuk broke his by nosediving the big wallride gap thing, I don’t think you can fault them for that. And didn’t the other guy screw up the oakley sender? It’s a bit like complaining that a car broke because you drove it into a wall 🙂
wreckerFree MemberNot really. Unless marz only sponsor riders who case everything, and the fox and RS riders are faultless, then it seems a very good test ground for kit comparison. Everything is pretty equal, all riders are riding nutcase grade trails. 3 sets of marz broke. No Fox or RS forks broke. Is it just bad luck? 3-0 suggests not.
I’m no marz hater, I’d still buy a set. But the comparison is a fair one IMHO.kimbersFull MemberId imagine the fox 40s are stronger as they have wider stanchions, but jonsey of dirt fame reckons that makes them too stiff he also slaggs off the servicing intervals they require
fwiw id have any of the big 3 on my dh bike quite happily us mere mortals are unlikely to get near to their limits
although being lazy the lower servicing requirements make me a marzocchi manratherbeintobagoFull MemberIndustry boys riding Fox forks shock horror
There’s a bit of an inconsistency there; if Fox forks are as rubbish as you make out, then why would industry folk (who one might presume have easier access to whatever they want) ride them?
Given that I doubt the Fox marketing budget is bottomless enough to give free forks to journos/bike shop workers, I think there are the conclusion that can be drawn from your post is that Fox forks are good enough that lots of industry people buy them even with other options.
Andy
DOI: Have never ridden a bike with a Fox fork, so have no idea how good. bad or indifferent they actually are.
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