Yeah, I see what you meant now, but yeah, it was better before where you didn’t need to go back to the top of the page unnecessarily.

I got things to do man….ain’t got time to go backwards. 😉

Had another autocomplete problem. No matter what I did the text input is blobking me selecting the correct spelling of a mistyped word. See the example in previous sentence. This is the only site with this problem.

You are the Blob King.

<span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>same here </span> on the typing problem and also pop-ups and redirect pages making certain threads inaccessible. Doesn’t happen on other sites

Yep, the typing is becoming infuriating. Whilst I don’t do my ch typing on many websites other than this one on my phone, I do write lots of emails and use the FB app a fair bit. Yet only here does it look like a dyslexic elephant has been typing on my iPhone. Latest os, etc.

There is now overlay on the mobile version but you click on the three horizontal iines to bring a similar menu up.

Sorry it take 2 click and takes up such vaulable time.

WhWh doezdthatd evenemeN?

Offs reallrecant be bothered now.

Sorry it take 2 click and takes up such vaulable time.

Just use a better design, like the one from about a month ago. HTH.

Sorry it take 2 click and takes up such vaulable time.

Any need to be snarky?

Any need to be snarky?

Are you new here?

Any need to be snarky?

If you look up in was in the humour used by Kayak. 🙄

If you look up in was in the humour used by Kayak.

My sides.

iPad 4th gen, 10.3.3, safari.

every so often the links back to the sub forums that surround the thread title at the top of the page are completely unresponsive, so either browser page back or try to find the main links which get tangled up in everything at the very top of the page.

Hate to kick a man when he’s down but as a long term subscriber and forum lurker, this implementation has been a bit shambolic. To have so many of the fundamentals not working is beyond ‘a few bugs in the system’. Speed and functionality aren’t even on par with some 1 man band website forums. As a Mac user, the speed and clumsiness is particularly frustrating as it seems even worse on Mac than PC, and certainly slower on desktop than mobile.

Appreciate that the software is probably far more complicated than a layman like me can understand but since the previous version seemed to work so well, why was the new version introduced in such an unfinished state? This seems a perfect case of if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it (but there may have been reasons beyond what is visible that made the change necessary).

Having lived through the pain of several large scale software changes professionally the moto seems to be test, test and test again prior to implementation. That doesn’t seem to have happened here.

Surely there must be some recourse to the developers that sold this software to you?

I have cancelled all of my print subscriptions except Singletrack (and there a lot!). With the internet of things I can get the news I want quicker than waiting a month. Despite much of the magazine content finding its way onto the site I persevered with Singletrack partly to help support/fund/acknowledge the broader community side. I am not about to cancel my subscription in protest, but it is another nail in the coffin. When print media disappears (which seems an inevitability) the strength of the website will be all the more important.

As a Mac user, the speed and clumsiness is particularly frustrating.

As a Mac user, I’d expect a flaming for that 😉

Ha ha, my point wasn’t ‘as a Mac user I expect better’. It is that for some reason the site works better on my clunky work laptop than my MacBook at home, which is usually faster in every respect.

Oh, i thought the Auto-complete was just some weird thing with my android tablet.. Although it does only happen on this forum i must admit.. Now i know.

Posting is slow, my last post, from being clicked, to then showing in the thread was 24s.

Is it just me or does the ‘Overview’ index page not seem to be updating?

RM.

it’s not just you, i’ve had it not updating correctly from time to time.

OK Thanks Klunk. I think it seems pretty random, could be linked to the speed issues already noted.

RM.

Cheers for the response on the replies question. I would never have found that

Just been looking for earlier editions of the mag on the site – are they all supposed to be available to download to subscribers, because all I can see for the few I’ve tried beyond the first pageful is the pre-publication puff piece for the mag, maybe some links for GPX files and no link to the actual pdf etc so I can read it. Apologies if I’ve missed something obvious, or an explanation has already been given somewhere in the past 70 pages.

There is next to no banter on the forum anymore. The volume of traffic seems to have fallen through the floor.  I am sure someone will come along and quote a stat to prove otherwise, but the forum does seem to be a less interesting place now. Have loads of people just switched off?

I certainly haven’t been posting as much as I did (many might suggest that’s a good thing) – mostly related to changes in how I’m working, but the speed of the site and other issues has certainly contributed to it feeling less welcoming as a place to banter.

There is next to no banter on the forum anymore.

Speak for yourself mate! I’m the Archbishop of Banterbury!

Wahey! etc.

Said Perchy to himself….

It is really quiet, I certainly don’t bother to follow up on posts I’ve made as it’s a right PITA only to find nobody has replied, I figure a lot of people are doing the same. Stuff isn’t  popping back on the front page as often and certainly lunchtime is more like 11pm these days

Redirects happening on Amazon Fire HD running the latest FireOS all weekend. Just enough time with the back button to login and get to the forum, loggged out by the forum every time I closed the browser (Firefox side-loaded from Google play). Just a little annoying as I was away from home.

solarider wrote:

Appreciate that the software is probably far more complicated than a layman like me can understand but since the previous version seemed to work so well, why was the new version introduced in such an unfinished state? This seems a perfect case of if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it (but there may have been reasons beyond what is visible that made the change necessary).

Having lived through the pain of several large scale software changes professionally the moto seems to be test, test and test again prior to implementation. That doesn’t seem to have happened here.

It did need fixing, because it was broken in a way which wasn’t obvious to users. However you’re spot on with the rest of your comments – that it needed updating is no excuse for the way it was implemented (I note that when challenged Mark has simply trotted out the known that it needed updating and ignored questions about the implementation – well apart from telling all us professional software devs working on web stuff with db back ends that we couldn’t possibly understand without seeing it).

Just been looking for earlier editions of the mag on the site – are they all supposed to be available to download to subscribers

As I understand it, they’ve not all been uploaded yet but it’s on the to-do list.  The current edition should be available though (and maybe last month’s).

mikewsmith wrote:

Said Perchy to himself….

It is really quiet, I certainly don’t bother to follow up on posts I’ve made as it’s a right PITA only to find nobody has replied, I figure a lot of people are doing the same. Stuff isn’t  popping back on the front page as often and certainly lunchtime is more like 11pm these days

The big issue there is the difficulty of following threads you’ve posted on, which like many others used to be my primary means of interacting with the forum. Sure they’ve kind of fixed it, but apart from the slightly hidden nature of the links, that you get a page full of your replies to the same thread rather than a list of different threads and that you can’t tell if anybody has replied since your last comment, the most irritating thing is that rather than a single click it now takes about 4 to reach that page which isn’t very funny when it takes so long to load each page. It kind of kills quick forum interaction.

Have loads of people just switched off?

Pretty much.

Said Perchy to himself….

No one else to say it to, is there?

Place is as empty as a recently divorced, fifty year old man’s fridge lately

The aggression levels have dropped.

well when it takes so long to post the real venom just drips away, it takes a lot of effort to keep that vitriol sustained

Noticeable on a certain long running thread that when the responsiveness of the forums dropped then certain antagonistic posters were notable by their absence. As soon as the speed picked up they were back.

I am a subscriber/P member.

10 minutes ago I went onto the forum on my phone, logged in as me and looked at a couple of threads.

2 minutes ago I went to forum again but, as usual, was logged out. Before I could even log in my phone had to block 22 pop ups (all within about 10 secs).

I don’t want to sound like I am flouncing but I am pretty close to calling it a day with the forum and my subscription. I am a paying customer and I think my expectations are reasonable. The log in/out issue has never been fixed and I object to my phone having to fight off junk pop ups when I am visiting a paid for site. If there are fewer users then then forum loses its value and interest.

I’ve been with STW since pretty much the beginning, certainly before the big crash. It is a shame to see it like this.

Has there actually been an official response to the pop ups problem which included porn? The comminication on this pop ups issue needs to be taken seriously by the owners, not the unpaid mods.

People will only put up with being treated badly for a while, then the’ll vote with their wallet.

Well that was interesting – first time I’ve tried using the forum on my phone since the update and having failed to log in properly I had 23 popups blocked on this page. I would have quoted franksinatra, but failing to paste – how does pasting work on Android as normal method doesn’t work?

for me the one that works is tap in the box to get the cursor, then tap it again to get the blue dot under it then tap the blue dot to get paste options or type a letter and you might be able to get that to activate paste.

anyway it’s all in the how to/help page/sticky thing….[insert sarcastic emoji]

The aggression levels have dropped.

You think? The rather belligerent attitude of Mark and the mods is one of the reasons I’ll not be renewing.