Ford Escort Vid Gordon Murray commissioned Resto/Mod

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  • Ford Escort Vid Gordon Murray commissioned Resto/Mod
  • it upsets my that a rare Mk1 shell is used for another different car. I like it when owners change the engine for a pinto or a cosworth but should not rebuild the car.

    Not sure this is any better or worse than a weekend warrior boy racer with delusions of grandieur suddenly deciding they want to do rallying and snap up MK1 body shells to build rally cars with which they’ll just wrap around a tree in their first rally.

    I’m all for modernising older cars…but there is a line to be drawn from which it no longer makes sense. You want to retain the traits (and imperfections) of the original and capture the character, but tune out some of the limitations to extract the maximum from the original design…Singer Porsche do this well, retaining the same suspension and engine whilst improving it and focus on things like re-engineering the body panels from CF, uprating brakes and engine etc. But to rip out the old MK1 suspension and replace with a double wishbone set up this thing will not resemble a MK1 Escort in any way shape or form so what’s the point? It’s a Triggers Broom job but starting off with a broom and ending up with a Dyson. If he likes the MK1 shape then it would have been better to space frame it and wrap it with a MK1 look-alike shell. But each to their own…it’s his cash and his car…it will be a hoot whatever and will look spectacular.

    grimep
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    I thought the rear suspension looked a bit Heath Robinson. How often do those bushes wear out? But what Mr Murray doesn’t know about cars isn’t worth knowing so I guess it’s kosher

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    I remember reading in CCC many years back that Robin Herd of March F1 fame did loads of modifications to his rally escort around mass centralization, things like moving the engine back and relocating the fuel tank battery forward only to completely screw up the once legendary handling of the thing.
    So it might be that some of the modifications aren’t as successful as one would hope though I can’t see having independent rear suspension being in any way a disadvantage over a live axle so long as the geometry isn’t too funky and I’m sure GM has given it the once over to check before signing it off.

    I can’t wait to see it finished and I’d love to see a proper road test done on it as it’d be really interesting to hear what modern finishing does to an old car like that.

    Premier Icon welshfarmer
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    It lives. New episode out this evening

    Premier Icon slackalice
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    Sweeeeeet! The thrill and relief when an engine fires up for the first time!

    I used to feel slightly out of control when using a fully programmable engine management system (albeit in the early days some 25 years ago), I knew where I was with distributors and points! An ecu with the complexity of all the various inputs made initial fault finding tricky and it looks like that hasn’t changed!

    Klunk
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    don’t like the interior/dash :/

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    don’t like the interior/dash :/

    I love it looks pretty simple and classy. Those vents are something else. :o)

    Merak
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    That gear stick whatever ergonomic/practical needs it serves looks terrible.

    Id love to see more of the Stratos..

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    Gordon Murray is about 9ft tall*. When it showed the seat and steering wheel fitting he was sat where the back seat would normally be. I guess the gear lever has to be cranked over so that he can reach it.

    I like the dash. Very clean.

    * an exageration.

    Merak
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    Aye right enough. I remember now, when hes checking his RHS blind spot he’s looking into the B pillar…

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    Aye right enough. I remember now, when hes checking his RHS blind spot he’s looking into the B pillar…

    I drove a Hyundai Tucson with a similar arrangement once was very dangerous on the motorway.

    pondo
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    Mega. These are not films for general consumption, they are labours of love that reflect the work on the car – if the lottery numbers come good, they’re getting a call from me.

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    Nope, still prefer Binky.

    pondo
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    A **** pimped Mini?!? You can have it! 🙂

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    Nope, still prefer Binky.

    Given the glacial speed that they each release episodes, I’ve got enough room in my life for both 😉

    Merak
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    @pondo

    Should those numbers come up what kind of car would you have them build?

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    I think they’re different things. Binky is about the two guys running the channel, essentially what they work on; Binky or the Van is pretty irreverent, whereas Retropower is all about the engineering, it is after all an advert for them.

    I prefer Binky for entertainment, as there’s only so much info about dry sump tank welding I’m ultimately interested in (I know some folk could watch that stuff all day)

    Choice; being a good thing since forever….

    pondo
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    Should those numbers come up what kind of car would you have them build?

    Oooo… Not an easy choice! 🙂 Stratos, GT40, RS1800, Stingray, Countach, Turbo 911, 512 – probably not that practical for daily use. This is dangerously uncool, but I have long had a soft spot for a Renault 5 Gordini Turbo, my cousin gave me a ride in one he was working on, like, 35 years ago (when it was a contemporary and early hot hatch), and in my head it was like hitching a ride on the Millenium Falcon. I’d have a Caterham or suchlike for track days, then the 5 for everyday use – small, retro but still pretty incognito, but sure you could fit a lump that would get decent poke. Teach it to stop and go round corners, job’s a good ‘un. 🙂

    pondo
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    PS – I apologise for my Binky outburst and will not comment until I’ve watched an episode or two.

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    Mate, if you can’t get passionate about cars what can you care about? The more viewpoints the better and they’re all equally valid.
    And to be clear I prefer Binky the show, I’m sure I’d prefer the Escort having had a few back in the day including a knackered Mexico. Someone told me what that bodyshell would be worth now!

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    They’ve started a new project:

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