been using clips for as long as I can remember but wanting to try flat pedals, got some spare pedals that I can use but recommend me some good shoes decent for a bit of hike a bike and not going to cost the earth if i hate it and go back to cleats.

ta

these are good.

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.ONeal-Pinned-Pedal-Flat-MTB-Shoes_119291.htm?sku=611542&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=google_shopping&gclid=CjwKCAjwpMOIBhBAEiwAy5M6YLwMjtNlP5kt7_Sa4hkdE5nyXqOIgRsoOe2nwEEzO5J2BgO9mxYzIhoCSaoQAvD_BwE

they are good.

@ton

how do they size up compared to normal shoes just go same size, also they look like they will keep som water out is that right?

recently got some fizik gravita really good. not as stiff as 5:10s but stiff enough for riding but also easy to walk and drive in.

@karnali

same as normal mate. dont get too wet and heavy like five tens.

Cheers Ton