It’s a hybrid, isn’t it?

Yes. I mean, No. Maybe..

No, its an old MTB, you remember back in the day when we didnt have suspension, fat tyres, disc brakes, wide bars, slack head angles and all used a triple. Well, its one of those really.

Except they’ve got 700c wheels. Like a hybrid.

Flat bar gravel bike = hybrid.
Curly bar gravel bike = tourer.

Flat bar gravel bike = hybrid.
Curly bar gravel bike = tourer.

So a Dawes Galaxy is a gravel bike?

I suppose it must be, didn’t the Rough Stuff Fellowship go over mountains on tourers?

I suppose it must be, didn’t the Rough Stuff Fellowship go over mountains on tourers?

Wouldn’t that make it a mountain bike?

Does a hybrid with front suspension = hardtail mtb?

And how much suspension travel is needed before a bike is a ‘weapon’?

And how many bikes in a ‘quiver’?

These are the questions we all need answers to (again).

And how many bikes in a ‘quiver’

That’s well-established; n+1 or alternatively s-1

Aren’t we forgetting the “steed”?

I suppose it must be, didn’t the Rough Stuff Fellowship go over mountains on tourers?

Wouldn’t that make it a mountain bike?

No. Mountain biking wasn’t invented until some Americans started riding their hybrids off-road.

Flat bar gravel bike = hybrid.
Curly bar gravel bike = tourer.

People who start threads about such things = trolls

No. Mountain biking wasn’t invented until some Americans started riding their hybrids off-road.

But those bikes don’t look anything like my MTBs so they can’t be the same. Anyway, I was riding around the cliffs on my 10sp Raleigh Pursuit back in the early 80s before I’d ever heard of Repack so I must have invented MTBing around here. 😀

…..you mean a 29er with slightly less chunky tyres and maybe a riding fork

@thisisnotaspoon I have no idea what you mean.

Except they’ve got 700c wheels. Like a hybrid.

Except they don’t. Here’s a Levarg FB which is on 650B

Don’t spoil this with facts.

(Still looks like a hybrid though)

Don’t spoil this with facts.

Sorry.

I own a rigid MTB is that a flat bar gravel plus? Are the Roadrat and Badboy flat bar gravel, hybrid or leisure bikes? So many questions that I didn’t know I needed the answers to until I foolishly opened this thread.

Ah – “Fitness bikes”. Don’t even go there….

https://www.trekbikes.com/gb/en_GB/bikes/hybrid-bikes/fitness-bikes/c/B420/

Riding a road bike off 4oas isn’t mountain biking…. (Runs away)

@molgrips 4oas?

idlejon
So a Dawes Galaxy is a gravel bike?

It was the replacement for the 1950s Windrush which was specifically aimed at the RSF type rider. For example, the pump pegs were moved from the top tube to the down tube so that the bike could be more comfortably carried on a shoulder.

You could argue that the proto-gravel bikes were the like of the Windrush and the Rudge Pathfinder etc.

I have a Windrush, and it is a very good gravel bike. What it lacks is a modern disk brake. That’s the only improvement I could think of for it.

Here it is at Loch Einich, a reasonable test of a gravel bike IMO.

Cargo bike?
Tout-terrain cycle?
Gravel mum-bike?
Granny grinder?

Good one MOA, but granny grinder? 🙂

I’m pretty sure the STW collective could produce a variety of pics of bikes ridden in wrong places that would have the pedants frothing over their semantic porridge…..

Granny grinder

Shirley that’s an App 🤔

Raleigh Pursuit sir? https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/133309564450?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=133309564450&targetid=856581560803&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007406&poi=&campaignid=6619152146&mkgroupid=95292828384&rlsatarget=aud-629407026905:pla-856581560803&abcId=1140496&merchantid=6995734&gclid=CjwKCAiA98TxBRBtEiwAVRLqu34atOEtBST4cKUnf-vmOBsFbwYjft1-Las1YbgrBKYS8j8iJwuFvxoCG9EQAvD_BwE

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/133309564450

You know you can remove the ? and everything after it in links?

What it lacks is a modern disk brake. That’s the only improvement I could think of for it.

Sloping top tube would also be good. That things higher than Simon Cowell’s jeans.

but granny grinder?

😳

I hadn’t thought of it *that way*…

funkmasterp
Sloping top tube would also be good. That things higher than Simon Cowell’s jeans.

Doesn’t present any problems, and it’s easier to shoulder that way.

High, horizontal top tubes are the epitome of evil for off road riding of any sort.

Ah – “Fitness bikes”. Don’t even go there….

As in (attempt to get) fit and forget?

Very possibly. Mind you, for lots of people something like that will be their only bike.

Not sure who buys a hybrid for £2k though, which is, I think where I came in (mid slow afternoon at work)

it’s only a hybrid if your brain can only hold two types of bike in it, and so anything in between is weird and inbetween – a hybrid.

Or not if your brain can imagine many types of bike; combinations of frames, head angles, suppleness, suspension, ergonomics, bar designs and widths, tyre width and designs, purpose, weight, toughness and looks, to suit many types of riding, control, distances, terrain and speeds.

Dang,if only they had put a set of flat bars on them.

@fasthaggis Impressive portage there.

Impressive portage there.

Yup,I think it’s TJ before he got a tandem.