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  • bwfc4eva868
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    Looking to start fishing on the local lodges in Darwen, but I’ve not fished since my step dad used to take me about 20 years ago.
    Completely clueless with all the different rod types.

    What equipment will get me up and running to start fishing.
    Obviously a rod and reel but what type.

    Premier Icon uphillcursing
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    Get thee to a local tackle shop. They can tell you what you can catch and how to go about it.

    Premier Icon CheesybeanZ
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    Have the local club got a Facebook page ?

    trademark
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    Even for an experienced angler, local knowledge is best.
    You could try calling down to an intended plaice of fishing and ask the locals what rod/reel/tackle/bait combo to start with.

    Premier Icon Yak
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    +1 for your local tackle shop. I had a fishing restart a few years ago when a friend hired a lake for his 50th. I hadn’t fished for 22 years, but still had my tackle. LTS put me right for what’s current in bait, tech etc and I had a great day, caught lots. Mostly bait and presentation of it for carp had changed – pellets in particular were new to me.

    johndoh
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    your local tackle shop

    Shame they are a dying/almost dead thing. Used to have two in the town where I grew up (Knaresborough). Now there are none in Knaresborough or Harrogate (a much bigger town). The last one closed down about two years ago.

    Such a shame.

    Premier Icon Yak
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    Shame they are a dying/almost dead thing

    Oh bugger – same as other small indie shops then. Killed off by the internet monsters. BITD my local town had 2 local tackle shops. I was utterly honoured to be asked to join one of their sponsored teams after a run of open and local match success. But I had to turn them down as I was off to uni.
    Just checked and that shop is no more now too. Shame.

    johndoh
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    6lb line? With Size 18 hooks? A bit rusty here but surely you’d be on 3lb line with around 1lb/12oz bottom on a size 18?

    Although of course it depends on what you are fishing for – OP what species are in the location you are fishing?

    johndoh
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    Just Googling and I wonder if you are planning on fishing at Newrad? They say

    Species include: Roach, Rudd, Tench, Bream, Chub, Crucian Carp, Gudgeon, Perch, Bream, Common & Mirror Carp.

    So a broad cross section of fish – you need to work out what you’ll be fishing for and prepare accordingly. As a newbie you should find out which are the most prevalent fish and aim for those but as a very general rule roach, rudd and bream are usually pretty easy to fish for and will help you practice your landing. Go for carp as a first timer and you will find lots of sitting around with nothing happening and you may get bored. Or the minute your back has turned have your rod pulled into the lake and be gone forever (seen this happen on more than one occasion) 🙂 And if you *DID* hook a big carp you would probably lose it as they are clever little buggers and dive for cover and the line can get snagged up – you need to bully them into staying in open water.

    I never said put a size 18 hook on 6lb line, I said buy the hooks i listed in the appropriate sizes.

    If you had checked you would see the breaking strains start from 2lb and go up to 5lb.

    This give the op a very good range and size of fish to target without a large outlay for specialised tackle,

    Like i said if he takes worms maggots and bread he can adjust the hook size accordingly to his bait.

    2 worms wont fit on a size 18 whereas 2 worms on a size 14 will.

    2 maggots on a size 14 will look ridiculous but perfect on a size 18.

    Quick change of Hook to nylon and you’re fishing in minutes.

    Think roach perch bream and if you catch anything else its a bonus,

    I wouldn’t like to be casting a swim-feeder out on 3lb line it would wear to quickly and become brittle, better to have stronger main line and change hook length diameter.

    If you set the clutch on you reel you never lose your rod as it gives line on demand,

    Lets hope the fish didn’t get tethered on some snags and die from exhaustion trying to free its self from a rod and reel + hook.

    bwfc4eva868
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    Was looking at a kit https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/leeda-coarse-outfit
    But not sure if I should just get my local shop (Darwen Angling Centre) to price me up some gear.
    It looks more expensive than mountain biking and cricket my other hobbies.

    Just looking to start with General course fishing for Perch etc, carp fishing looks good but looks complicated.

    Bradshaw fisheries is also close. Newrad is about five minute walk away.
    I used to fish on rivers when I was younger. Mainly Trout in the local River near my Mums.

    Any good books to read on how to setup floats etc?

    johndoh
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    Merchant – you said 6lb line and 18 hooks. If you didn’t say he should use them, why did you suggest getting them? Confused.

    Premier Icon PMK2060
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    The tackle shop in Darwen looks to be well stocked judging by their website. I would go there for advice rather than buying online. Light lure fishing on small rivers is all I do nowadays. You don’t need a mountain of kit which means it’s less expensive to get started. You also get to move about rather that sat on your a**e all day. There are plenty of clips on youtube for fishing tips.

    supremebean
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    Merchant – you said 6lb line and 18 hooks. If you didn’t say he should use them, why did you suggest getting them? Confused.

    I only do sea fishing but i think the hooks Merchant mentioned already have the appropriate line attached, usually about 350mm long, which then gets tied to your mainline (6lb).

    Premier Icon Furious
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    Lube, plenty of lube.

    Oh, and a partner with small hands…

    Premier Icon deadkenny
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    ski
    Member

    I would wander down to the bank and have a chat to some of the locals, tell them you are starting back after a break and looking for advice.

    Most will give you good local knowledge, plus which are the best local tackle shops.

    Then go to the Library and indulge in some fine words from my favourite fishing author Chris Yates.

    Avoid reading any of the high street magazines on fishing subjects unless you want to become a tackle tart 😉

    rene59
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    Forget that course fishing malarkey, too much gear, gadgets, alarms and radio controlled bait boats to be classed as proper fishing. Even if you are not into that crap you will be driven crazy by those around you who are.

    Get yourself into some trout, sea trout and salmon fishing with a bit of sea fishing on the side outwith game fishing season. Proper mans fishing.

    Premier Icon krixmeister
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    Google “Tenkara fly fishing” for thoughts on easier entry to fly fishing. No reel, just a rod and a line.

    crosshair
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    To clear up the confusion about hooks/hooks to nylon.

    Stronger line = thicker diameter = easier for fish to see

    Weaker line = thinner diameter = harder to see = more likely to break

    By using 6lb mainline, you getter better abrasion resistance and more versatility with the same reel (can also be used for light legering/feeder fishing for example).

    So by using ‘hooks to nylon’ with a short length of line already attached in an appropriate breaking strain for the target fish (smaller hooks often mean smaller fish) you get all the benefits of a sturdy main line with the presentation of a thinner line where it counts-near the bait.

    Also, if the hook snags, you’ll only lose the hook as the line will snap at the weaker “hook-length”.

    So Merchants shopping list was correct 🙂

    bwfc4eva868
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    I’ll get down to Darwen Angling on my day off and get some gear.
    Carp fishing looks interesting but for now, a rod and reel floats etc will be OK to start with.

    johndoh
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    So by using ‘hooks to nylon’ with a short length of line already attached in an appropriate breaking strain for the target fish (smaller hooks often mean smaller fish) you get all the benefits of a sturdy main line with the presentation of a thinner line where it counts-near the bait.

    I tend not to agree, but I guess it depends on the type of fishing you are doing. I (used to) fish for mainly chub, dace, grayling and perch in my local river (the Nidd) on very lightweight float rigs on a lightweight match rod so I never went over 3lb line and used 18 or 20 hooks (sometimes 22 in early season) on 12oz bottoms (self-tied, none of these lazy pre-rigged hooks). A heavier line really wouldn’t have suited the set-up I had. If I was ledgering (on a different rod) I would use 6lb line but I wouldn’t have paired it with an 18 hook.

    Premier Icon PMK2060
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    johndoh – I think fishing has moved on in the last few years.

    I used to fish 12oz bottoms but the new fishing line is much thinner for a given breaking strain.

    Braid is even thinner but mainly used for carp, piking etc.

    johndoh
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    johndoh – I think fishing has moved on in the last few years.

    Clearly has then 🙂

    When I retire I am going to start fishing again. I am looking forward to it already.

    i have restarted fishing the last couple of years after a long layoff(last licence was in year 20000) and by heck it’s complicated now! Gear has moved on but the basics still apply. Go to a club water and ask about stuff but a good tackle shop is a rarity. Investigate method fishing, basically feeder fishing with a very short hook length embedded in the bait ball which is very effective. Using pellets on banded hooks is very good too, basically a very simple hook set up like a hair rig. Weighted waggler floats also make set up simple. I must admit it’s very difficult to go into a tackle shop and come out empty handed due to all the shiny tempting stuff available, (very much like a bike shop actually) but one assistant in a shop wryly said that a lot of the gear is intended to catch the fisherman in the shop rather than the fish which made me smile.

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