- Finally ordered my new Soul!…..but….
good point on the leverage Tony, but thanks Scamper – sounds like it might be ok. I’ve bought a new seat post specifically for the frame so it won’t need a shim or anything, and i’m shortish for the frame i think at 5’10 so should be able to keep plenty of post in the seat tube.
Might give Cy an email too though i think.Posted 4 years ago
After many months of dithering (and saving admittedly) i’ve finally taken the plunge and ordered my new Soul frame. Really looking forward to the upgrade – gone from a (too small) Wanga frame with too big forks so i’m hoping the difference will be significant!
So the but…has anyone or does anyone use one of these with a Soul at all?
Got one off ebay last week, with a plan to take my son out, but the bike shop has said the soul is quite thin steel so am i going to damage my new pride and joy even before i ride it?!?! Also, can you maybe bolt it to the seatpost rather than the frame?Posted 4 years agodavewalshMember
I’m on the cotic mailing list and after reading how stiff a 34.9mm steel seat tube is and how strong and durable the frame is, I personally wouldn’t hesitate bolting a child seat to my soul if my kids were that small. I’ve run one on an Inbred without issue so the soul should be fine.Posted 4 years agosoulwoodSubscriber
I used a carrier like that on an early 853 Rourkie MTB build. The tubes are so tough that the first batch worn out the seat tube reamers, my old frame now has to run a 27.0 post. Anyway you’ll have no problem with strength, just a possibility of it marking the paint/transfers as mentioned earlier.Posted 4 years agokayseeSubscriber
I used that exact seat on my Soul no problems – a tight wrap of inner tube to protect the paint and help prevent twisting did the job for me. It did a week doing (slow and\or easy-route) Scottish trail centres no problems, then many not-so-smooth local trails, until mini-me got too heavy to make offroad safe or successful. The seat is now on my Cross-check for child delivery duties.
I did have to modify the clamp a lot for my medium mk2 frame, as the front mech cable stop prevented me running the clamp high enough for the seat not to buzz the tyre over bumps. I simply cut the steel clamp section so the the round hole became a full slot that went around the stop.Posted 4 years ago
Right, been out for a first ride with the seat clamped to the seat post. I ran the post well inside the frame, well beyond the welds and no problems. Seat is pretty high so balance is a bit of an issue though.
Comments above make me think I might be ok to run it on the seat tube though. It comes with rubber liners so won’t mark the paintwork. I don’t think any adjustments will be needed to the clamp, looks like it’ll be fine.
Just need to bite the bullet and….Posted 4 years ago
However.. Reply from cotic themselves
The shop staff were correct, it’s not good to use those kind of clamps on the seat tube as it’s only 0.6mm thick in the middle. The top 110mm of seatube is sleaved down to accept a 31.6mm seatpost, but lower down the seattube the seat post won’t touch the sides so it won’t offer any kind of reinforcement. Clamping it to the seatpost itself might not be a problem, but the seat will be quite high and potentially make thePosted 4 years ago
Right, had a play and I can’t see how the clamp could fit to the seattube as the front mech bits are all in the way!
So, here’s my setup, perhaps Cy might comment if he’s about? Obviously not going to do any bonkers stuff on this, just gives me an excuse to take my son out and have a ride too! Only downside I can see so far is my fat thighs rub a little on the clamp so might have to pedal a bit like john Wayne! Oh and yes, seat is pretty high, I’ve moved it right in close to the frame to reduce the force the seat will put through the seat post.
Posted 4 years agobrakesMember
that looks a bit sketchy to me.Posted 4 years ago
regardless of the lever action on the seatpost, having that much weight so high up and also away from the bike will really mess up the balance and handling.
I ride a Soul with a Weeride seat on, where the weight of seat and kid (~20kg?) is low and between your legs but still has a big affect on handling.user-removedMember
Just bought exactly the same seat for my fat little pudding child. The instructions are pretty clear that using the seatpost is a Very Bad Idea.
That ^^^ does look pretty sketchy – centre of balance is sooo high. Nice bike!
For the record, my seat is clamped to a Boardman Pro Aluminium frame. If it snaps or folds, I’ll have the perfect excuse to buy a decent frame…Posted 4 years ago
Thanks for the replies guys, userremoved, did the instructions say it was bad because of the balance or in case of damage to the bike?
I had a half hours ride with this setup yesterday with my son in and the balance is… Different, but not insurmountable.
Weight wise, I’m 14 stone, so I think 90 kg? My son is 15kg I think, the seat maybe 3,so total around 110-115 kg.
How does the weeride fit then? Is that a better option? Is it easy to take on and off?Posted 4 years agotheotherjonvSubscriber
If anyone wants it, I’ve got a kiddie seat in my garage that as well as fixing to the seat tube has two struts to the seatstays as well. I think its a Hamax, no sure what model. Free to a good home as long as collected, Guildford area. I just need to make sure I still have all the fittings!Posted 4 years agochivesMember
I’d say you would struggle to control the bike whilst trying to open gates and/or stopping on any kind of incline without the bike trying to loop out / get away from you sideways with the weight that far back / high. I couldn’t fit my Polisport Boodie kids seat to my (early) Soul as the front mech cable guide is offset toward the drive side of the seat tube, so fouled the mounting bracket. I kept my Cube Ltd on, partly for jaunts out with the nippers, but even with the seat mounted down low / forward it’s a handful when they get to c.15kg IMO.Posted 4 years ago
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