F1 cameramen banned from pitlane
i agree with them, last thing you need in a pit lane where all your concentration and senses are required is someone walking around looking into a camera with headphones on listening to his producer.
Not blaming the cameraman he was doing his job in a dangerous place and glad hes okPosted 4 years agohoneybadgerxSubscriber
I think Christian Horner put it quite well when he said something along the lines of all the pit crew wearing flame retardant suits, helmets, etc. but there being no requirement for the press to do the same. Maybe it’s just a case of training and proper PPE for camera crew there, possibly along with a restriction on camera size to aid mobility.Posted 4 years agoandylMember
how many people who do a dangerous and high pressure job would welcome a cameraman not wearing any protective gear, carrying a bulky camera, with massively reduced sense of what is going on around him because he/she is looking down a camera with a headset on? It puts other people around them in danger as they may not be able to get out of the way or may feel the need to protect the person.
Yes it’s a sport and thus needs to be recorded but fully agree that they can easily get the coverage, or even better coverage, with fixed position pan/tilt/zoom cameras and a camera on a zip line whizzing down the pits.
They would then be able to catch more action and get shots a cameraman cannot.
Or maybe kit out one or two of the pit crews from each team with head mounted cameras and take footage from those?Posted 4 years agorobdobMember
Good idea. You could tell when it happened that all the mechanics knew of the potential dangers as they were watching the car and reacted immediately as soon as the tyre broke free. Several got out of the way sharpish then it hit the cameraman who maybe wasn’t as aware of the dangers or was concentrating on his equipment/next shot etc.
I don’t think it’s anyone’s fault as such. In fact its great that lessons can be learnt from this and things changed BEFORE someone is seriously injured. With overhead cameras, headcams, boom cameras available theres no need for them to be in the pit lane now we can see the problem clearly and can do something about it.Posted 4 years agoNorthwindSubscriber
The 2 most interesting developments in F1 lately are random blowouts, and cameramen getting hit with wheels. This is to be encouraged- forget banning them from the pits, we should have 10 times more in there. Let’s have some on the track. Blindfolded. And covered in drawing pins to encourage more blowouts.Posted 4 years agoMarmosetMember
It makes sense, I think the best pit shots are the overhead ones anyway, the rest can easily be done from the pit wall.
Gary Anderson made a good suggestion on his BBC column, there are currently around 20 people on the car in a pit stop, so you can’t see much anyhow, he’s suggested limiting the number of people who work on the car to get 2 wheels changed at a time, this allows people to see what’s going on more, slows the stop down by about 1.5 seconds and gives the lollipop man more time to check it’s all done and make a decision on the release.Posted 4 years agoandytherocketeerSubscriber
Would force them to have to race and pass on track. Unless they engineer regular punctures and the fresh tyres (same compound) give them enough better performance to more than make up the lost time.
Cutting down on number of guys n the pitlane kinda makes sense. There are an awful lot, compared with other race formulas. Other options are halve the number of guys doing wheel changes – get away from these 2s stopsPosted 4 years agoretro83Member
They should start giving proper penalties for unsafe releases. 20 CC points for example. £30k is pocket change to Red Bull.
I think Christian Horner put it quite well when he said something along the lines of all the pit crew wearing flame retardant suits, helmets, etc. but there being no requirement for the press to do the same.
Those comments coming from Horner are irritating to me. Your team **** up, where’s your apology? Arsehole!
Gary Anderson as always seems to be talking sense.Posted 4 years agomidlifecrashesSubscriber
Should deffo go back to no routine tyre changes, current racing is a joke. If they get a puncture they should have the option of using a can of tyre weld like in my S-Max or a space saver spare, carried under the drivers seat, and limited to 30% of the car’s top speed.Posted 4 years agocrashtestmonkeyMember
Retro have you read the fuller text of Horners comments? Where he says the team need find out what went wrong, how horrific it must have been for Paul Allen’s family to see it? In context with the rest of what he said he’s making a reasonable comment about health and safety. It is a farce when the mechanics are so well kitted but its deemed reasonable for someone to be stood next to them in shirt sleeves.Posted 4 years ago
This is to be encouraged- forget banning them from the pits, we should have 10 times more in there. Let’s have some on the track. Blindfolded. And covered in drawing pins to encourage more blowouts.
But the points of the drawing pins would be pointing into the cameraman, unless you propose gluing the pins on which would be ridiculous.
You, sir, obviously know nothing about motor racing or stationery.Posted 4 years agoretro83Member
crashtestmonkey – Member
Retro have you read the fuller text of Horners comments? Where he says the team need find out what went wrong, how horrific it must have been for Paul Allen’s family to see it? In context with the rest of what he said he’s making a reasonable comment about health and safety. It is a farce when the mechanics are so well kitted but its deemed reasonable for someone to be stood next to them in shirt sleeves.
Would a helmet and fire overalls have made any difference to this incident? No.
Do you have a link to the full text?Posted 4 years ago
The interview I saw him make the comments in was on Sky F1 and his tone gave the impression to me that he was deflecting blame. Maybe I read too much into it, as I have long thought that he is a helmet.SpeshpaulSubscriber
“Retro have you read the fuller text of Horners comments? Where he says the team need find out what went wrong”
Really ? they need to find out! i’ll help them they wheel didn’t go on correctly and the lollipop man released the car whilst they were still working on the wheel. i spotted all that as it happen.
6 men per pit stop – 2 on the jacks. 2 per side. 20 second minimum stop.
Min 1 stop per race.Posted 4 years agomartymacSubscriber
i agree with a min time period for the stop, would greatly reduce the risk of a wheel flying off into other pit crew/cameramen/the crowd.Posted 4 years ago
it works in other formulas.
i would also do away with:
1 lines which externally identify which compound tyre a car is using.
2 defined zones for DRS.
3 allowing the cars to start with fully charged KERS systems, it’s supposed to be kinetic energy RECOVERY system.
4 that **** who comentates on bbc beside david coulthard, he is hard to listen to.
5 limits to the maximum amount of fuel a car can carry, it should be up to a team whether they want to carry extra fuel, they will pay the price in extra weight.
6 tyres from only one manufacturer, competition is good and racing improves the breed.
7 and ffs, make the wings (a lot) smaller, then there will be more overtaking, look at touring cars for inspiration.
glad the cameraman was ok, but really, who decided it was a safe place for him to be, i agree a zipwire cam would be much better.SpeederSubscriber
The best solution is to ban pit stops because they ruin the racing.
None of the purest forms of motorsport have pitstops and they don’t add anything to the spectacle. Moto GP is one of the most highly regarded racing series and that’s because to finish first you have to actually overtake the guy in front. This would see an opportunity to end the farces that are “the overaking button” and “the DRS zone” which combined with compulsory tyre stops and refuelling have caused F1 to become a bit of a joke of late.
Actually thinking about it just ban Bernie, that’d sort a considerable chunk of the whole damn mess out. Then again if that happened it’d be run by some faceless corporation and would truly descend into the mire.Posted 4 years ago
…various ways to make F1 better…
It’s a hard line to walk, running F1. A true prototype class runs the risk of someone galloping off with everything and/or cars getting too fast for the track safety infrastructure, too many restrictions and you’re no longer the fastest series, then alongside that balance you have to try to make sure there’s plenty of exciting racing. Not sure how important the racing is, actually. Watching a rally car is exciting, and he’s only racing the clock.
But excitement is in the eye of the excitee. Some folk enjoy watching people cycle slowly along featureless tarmac for three weeks but consider downhill boring. Some people even like cricket!Posted 4 years ago5thElefantMember
Moto GP is one of the most highly regarded racing series and that’s because to finish first you have to actually overtake the guy in front.
Is it? I thought it was a tedious procession that we have to endure when WSBK isn’t on. At least Moto2 helps break the tedium.Posted 4 years ago
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