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    slowoldman
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    Ricciardo – “It’s going to be probably the most interesting straight I’ve ever driven on,” Ricciardo said. “‘Cool, look at that, look at that.”.

    He’s never been to Blackpool when the illuminations are on.

    simondbarnes
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    Bit of a farce so far

    thepurist
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    Seems that it’s the concrete around the drain cover that gave way – that’s a bit more of a challenge to fix (and certify) than just re-welding the covers shut. Also no confirmed start time for FP2 yet – could we be in line for another Indianapolis?

    johndoh
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    It certainly is now they’ve had to stop practice because of loose manhole covers 😹🤷🏻‍♂️

    mashr
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    could we be in line for another Indianapolis?

    $500m, plus all those massively expensive tickets, for 8 mins running. Ouch

    matt303uk
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    Popcorn at the ready, not sure how they can fix this in time if like said it’s the concrete around the manhole covers and to be fair I’ve not much sympathy for Liberty Media getting themselves in this situation.

    johndoh
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    not sure how they can fix this in time

    Especially as the roads are meant to re-open to traffic between sessions.

    the-muffin-man
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    Hmm – weird – when I clicked on this thread there had been no posts about this! It appears there have been though! 🤣

    TiRed
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    Would love to read the risk assessment for this.  Can’t see it going ahead. How do you test all the drain surrounds at appropriate speed and force?

    the-muffin-man
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    and to be fair I’ve not much sympathy for Liberty Media getting themselves in this situation.

    Me either – road furniture coming lose has been an issue for decades now. This should not have happened.

    simondbarnes
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    Can’t see it going ahead

    It’s not the first time drain covers have caused issues at a circuit, they’ll sort it.

    the-muffin-man
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    FP2 delayed by two hours – this seems optimistic. If those covers failed after hardly any running, there’s not much chance of them lasting the weekend.

    Second practice delayed by two hours as F1 scrambles to secure drain covers

    the-muffin-man
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    johndoh
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    Wow!

    RickDraper
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    Well they wanted a great show!

    mashr
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    Can’t see it going ahead.

    ah, but have you considered $$$$$$$$?

    It’s not the first time drain covers have caused issues at a circuit, they’ll sort it.

    Can’t remember one involving an issue with the surrounding concrete

    TiRed
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    how long does it take to fill every manhole with concrete and let it set? That video is amazing. which cover is next?

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    mashr
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    Seems to be getting more traction that it was a water valve cover that wasn’t secured properly. Still having to check all the others, but might not be quite as big a drama as it first looked

    matt303uk
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    I know Vegas is like a 24hr place but having F1 cars running until 3:30am local time!

    This whole weekend feels like the tail wagging the dog with the amount of focus on the “show” rather than what’s going off on track.

    multi21
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    Bit unfortunate for Sainz/Ferrari, wrecked PU, battery and chassis by the sound of it.

    edit…

    tomhoward
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    Looks like max’s percentages (1% race, 99% show) were a bit optimistic on the side of the race…

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    mashr
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    I would like to think there is something in the cost cap rules to cover this sort of thing. Doesn’t feel right that Ferrari are having to swap out 2/3s of a car for something entirely not their doing

    simondbarnes
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    mashr
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    I would like to think there is something in the cost cap rules to cover this sort of thing. Doesn’t feel right that Ferrari are having to swap out 2/3s of a car for something entirely not their doing

    This won’t affect the cost cap for Ferrari at all. All of the parts for the rest of the season are already long produced.

    mashr
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    This won’t affect the cost cap for Ferrari at all. All of the parts for the rest of the season are already long produced.

    That’s the point. They’ve factored in what they need for a season only to have a rogue manhole cover ruin those calculations.
    Lead times on F1 parts aren’t like the normal world, they can get upgrades/replacements in incredible timescales. They don’t stock up early season as they all know they’ll be revising the car throughout the year (with the exception of the tub as that needs to get through all the crash test stuff)

    matt303uk
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    They’ve closed all the fan areas at 1:30am so if you’ve spent $900ish for a Thursday ticket you’ve had 8 minutes of track action.

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    simondbarnes
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    Lead times on F1 parts aren’t like the normal world, they can get upgrades/replacements in incredible timescales. They don’t stock up early season as they all know they’ll be revising the car throughout the year (with the exception of the tub as that needs to get through all the crash test stuff)

    The final race of the season is next week. They won’t be building a new chassis / engine etc by then.

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    mashr
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    Haha s**t good point!

    the-muffin-man
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    They’ve closed all the fan areas at 1:30am so if you’ve spent $900ish for a Thursday ticket you’ve had 8 minutes of track action.

    They’ve kicked the rich people out of the Paddock Club too – Liberty Media’s lawyers are going to be very busy next week! :-)

    simondbarnes
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    They’ve closed all the fan areas at 1:30am so if you’ve spent $900ish for a Thursday ticket you’ve had 8 minutes of track action.

    The grandstands are still open

    the-muffin-man
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    LOL – BBC reporting that Sainz is going to get a grid penalty for changing his engine! 😬

    matt303uk
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    Sky coverage has started and the grandstands have been emptied, also start pushed back until 2:30am

    simondbarnes
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    Yeah, just seen that they’re clearing them now.

    thols2
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    multi21
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    haha amazing, what a shitshow

    mashr
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    F1 really can’t handle its own rule book – utterly bonkers

    nickc
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    Almost as much as a shitshow as Spa in the rain a couple of years back? Or when 6 cars lined up on the grid because some tyres were unsafe?

    This sort of farce has long been a feature of F1, this isn’t unique by any measure.

    matt303uk
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    They were still fixing covers down at 2:15

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    multi21
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    nickc
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    Almost as much as a shitshow as Spa in the rain a couple of years back? Or when 6 cars lined up on the grid because some tyres were unsafe?

    This sort of farce has long been a feature of F1, this isn’t unique by any measure.

    No, I didn’t mean that – drains etc are often a problem at street circuits. Especially a new one.

    I meant the fact that Sainz has ended up with a grid drop for his troubles because there is no measure available for the stewards to bypass the rule

    Per the BBC:

    This is the reason given by the stewards as to why Carlos Sainz has been handed that grid drop: “The stewards note that if they had the authority to grant a derogation in what they consider in this case to be to be mitigating, unusual and unfortunate circumstances, they would have done so, however the regulations do not allow such action.”

    According to Sky Sports, the stewards spent three hours trying to find a way around the rules so Sainz and Ferrari could avoid a penalty.

    mashr
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    because there is no measure available for the stewards to bypass the rule

    Why is there not someone ultimately in charge that can overrule in the interest of “don’t be stupid”? This isn’t exactly an instance where the other teams would be up in arms about it

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