F1 2016 (Bound to contain spoilers!)

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  • F1 2016 (Bound to contain spoilers!)
  • Go Max! What have you got to lose??? 🙂

    Premier Icon thepurist
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    Go Seb! What have you got to lose?

    milky1980
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    Bugger 🙁

    Mr boring and average gets to gloat for a year, all that false emotion and smugness will really annoy me.

    cheeky Vettel holds back in the end 🙂 .. well done Nico despite the best attempts of Hamilton

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    Interesting that Bernie tells the camera to go away befor he has a quiet word in Rosbergs ear. Conspiracy theorists unite.

    Jambalaya to the thread!

    Enjoy your one and only Championship Nico. You can’t be that lucky again.

    Obviously Hamilton didn’t pay Vettel enough to take out Rosberg! What is the sport coming to?
    Great (lack of) interaction between Hamilton and Rosberg. 😈
    I wonder what Niki and Toto will say about Hamilton’s disobedience.

    Premier Icon thepurist
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    I expect Hamilton won’t really care what they say, he’s just lost his title and they’re not going to fire him, so apart from withholding pudding their options are limited.

    Klunk
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    I wonder what Niki and Toto will say about Hamilton’s disobedience.

    can’t really say a lot, finished 1-2 and got them a lot more exposure than they usually get when they drive off into the distance.

    shermer75
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    Nice to see some genuine emotion from Nico lol. Actually quite pleased to see him win it, I do t think anyone could have worked harder for it!

    Glad Nico is champ

    There was the answer from Toto. Throw out the rule book. 🙂

    Premier Icon thepurist
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    Is jb a teensy bit tipsy?

    Premier Icon slowoldman
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    Well done Nico. That must have had the pulse racing.

    chewkw
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    Good job Nico.

    Finally Keke can enjoy another world title after missing out for so many years. :mrgreen:

    milky1980
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    Listening to Rosberg’s interviews all I can hear is him moaning about Hamilton backing him up into the pack. If you’re that good why didn’t you just pass him?

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    Strange how we hear the same words differently.

    milky1980
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    I may be biased as I’m not a Rosberg fan 🙂

    i found it funny Rosberg trying to broker a deal in the car.

    “If you let me past I’ll let you back through when we’re clear”

    I wonder how much Hamilton will rue Baku and Singapore where he could have stashed a few more points.

    No No No oh No

    jimw
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    Well, it wasn’t Nico who came across badly today in the Mercedes camp. The right guy won the championship today

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2016/11/27/lewis-hamilton-could-suspended-mercedes-defying-team-orders/

    For all those LH fanbois just think what you would have been writing if Nico had done that to him.

    And no, I am nt a LH fan so I may be biased

    For all those LH fanbois just think what you would have been writing if Nico had done that to him.

    Lewis would have overtaken him without fuss (or taken him out trying). Hamilton is already thought to have threatened to resign in the past, he might go through with the threat if suspended. Who’s going to blink first?
    Great publicity for the team though.

    jimw
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    I would think it quite a good thing for him to resign or be sacked to be honest. After today, he may be a little less marketable with those who might have been willing to pay his wage demands.

    As Mercedes have hinted, anarchy does not sit well with large corporations
    “One half of me says that with 1,500 people in this company, you respect those values,” he said. “Undermining a structure means you are putting yourself before the team. It is very simple. Anarchy does not work in any team or in any company.” Pressed on whether Hamilton could face sanction or even suspension, Wolff replied: “Everything is possible.”

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    Hamilton did exactly what a true racer would do…. If anything he should have slowed up even more ! If he was allegedly going so slow how come vettel and verbs tapped didn’t actually pass !!

    Over exaggeration storm in a tea cup …. World championship and race 1-2. Result !

    The real issue is Hamilton being ungracious and Grumpy in defeat !

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    I don’t think he did anything wrong. I would have the same opinion if the roles had been reversed.

    He’s out to win the world championship and not make life easy for his rival.

    If the constructors championship had also been on the line then I think it would have been different but it wasn’t.

    And it was Mercedes who said they’d let their drivers race until the end…

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    jimw wrote:

    The right guy won the championship today

    The guy who only won because he hasn’t had a mechanical failure all season whilst his rival has had several? The guy who is well behind in both pole positions and race results in those races where mechanical failure didn’t intervene?

    jimw wrote:

    I would think it quite a good thing for him to resign or be sacked to be honest. After today, he may be a little less marketable with those who might have been willing to pay his wage demands.

    😆 you’re really that much of a Lewis hater that you didn’t notice him show his superiority today more than if he’d just driven off into the distance? Any team would snap him up – however much you might love Britney the same really couldn’t be said about him (and if Mercedes even suggest any sanction for today’s driving I’d expect LH to bring up all sorts of simiar or worse things Britney has done and not been sanctioned for).

    Wolff replied: “Everything is possible.”

    Toto being his usual coy self, saying everything and nothing. 😆

    Hicksy
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    I’d imagine not many world champions haven’t benefited from a rivals misfortune.

    I’d have preferred Lewis to win the championship as he’s the better driver, and he probably would have if he hadn’t messed up a fair few starts. It wasn’t just mechanicals which cost him the title.

    I didn’t like the way he was so ungracious in defeat though. Pretty poor that.

    jambalaya
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    Well done Nikko, thrilled for him and it’s good for the sport to have a new World Champion.

    Hamilton is an outstanding driver with a poor attitude. He won’t quit as Mercedes have the best car by miles. He lost this championship as much via a few poor performances as anything else. Ignoring team orders .. for me a definite suspension.

    mikey74
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    Hamilton was within his rights to do whatever he needed to do to win the championship, short of taking out his rival, of course. If he didn’t stand a chance of the Championship, then I could understand the criticism, but he had a chance, and it was out of order for his team to give him direct orders to the contrary.

    Hamilton clearly showed his superiority as a driver today. I don’t begrudge Rosberg the title: it takes a mixture of skill and good luck to win the F1 title. However, Hamilton is the better driver and I would have preferred him to win, but hey ho.

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    Hicksy wrote:

    I’d imagine not many world champions haven’t benefited from a rivals misfortune.

    When we did this a few pages ago, nobody seemed to be able to come up with an example of where the world champion was so clearly inferior to his team-mate.

    jambalaya
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    When we did this a few pages ago, nobody seemed to be able to come up with an example of where the world champion was so clearly inferior to his team-mate.

    Well that’s largely due to teams historically having a number 1 and 2 driver with clear team orders that number 1 was number 1 ?

    Whatever Hamilton did today it wasn’t as blatant as Schumacher ramming Damon Hill.

    Hamilton needs to wind his ego in. In any other car Rossberg and Mercedes driver #2 would have beaten him by miles.

    Hicksy
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    I’m not saying that Nico is better than Lewis am I (in fact I said the opposite).

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    Hamilton didn’t lose the Championship because of a single failure, he lost it because of his poor starts at the beginning of the season. It seems strange that since he’s focusssed all of his time and effort on racing (the last 3 races) he’s been faultless and unstoppable.

    Lewis lost the Championship and Nico deservedly won. Yes, the mechanical hurt Lewis, just like it hurt Nico in 2014, but it was within Lewis’ power to correct early on.

    I’m a Lewis fan, but he has bitched a lot this season…the mechanic swap, Nico’s racing (and he’s had his own dirty tricks this year), the clutch, the clutch, the brakes, his mechanical…etc.

    But, and it’s a big BUT, it’s not just the retirement that hurt Lewis, it’s the reliability early in the season which forced him into a 55 place penalty (which should’ve guaranteed reliability) again hurting his haul.

    jimw
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    aracer, I am not a fan of Nico in the way you seem to think, I certainly don’t ‘love him’ I’m just pleased he won the championshIp this year. I am also not a’hater’ of LH, I am really just not interested enough for that. i don’t like his attitude, but that doesn’t extend to hate.
    I just find it all a tad amusing

    Is the Hamilton attitude also a problem when he wins? Are his winner celebration simply his crass way of rubbing it into the opposition for not winning, beacuase they didn’t win and he did?
    Of course not. The guy wears his heart on his sleeve. He had a chance of walking away as world champ and went for it, no matter how slim it appeared, and is clearly gutted by losing it. He’ll be trying to work out what he could have done differently today in order to win.
    I find his off track antics a bit base, but he does a bloody good job on track and is a bit like the cavalier F1 drivers of days gone by.
    Rosberg is dull as a driver and as a person but the two DNFs last year might have cost him the title in 2015. Who knows?
    The marketing guys must be loving this free publicity.

    dragon
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    Most interesting was Vettel who said Hamilton was up to ‘dirty tricks’ and didn’t want to get involved and also Jorge Lorenzo who said if Hamilton was going to back them up, then he needed to do it earlier and by that late in the race should have been thinking about the team. Personally I don’t have an issue with Hamilton backing up but his attitude of I don’t care about the race win now the championship is lost, was pretty off IMO. End of the day Rosberg won the title that’s all that counts.

    (Aside: C4 said that during their time at Merc both drivers have had the same amount of mechanicals, so if true then all fair there.)

    akeys001
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    I think toto’s a nobber – imagine telling your man who’s unarguably one of the best racers and 3 times world champ to give it up when he’s in the last race of the season with a half a chance of winning again – team orders? they’re racers man – he should’ve shutup and let them get on with it – i.e. what racing is supposed to be about

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