- Every road death between 1999-2010
Grim reading as ever.
I wish there were some stats showing risk vs. exposure (i.e. time). Basing fatality and injury numbers on millions-of-miles-travelled is useful for policy makers, I suppose, but sod all use for an individual trying to figure out how safe a mode of transport is, because distance travelled is massively different for walking vs. cycling vs. motorised travel.
What I really want to know is how likely an average rider (or pedestrian or motorist) is to die or be injured on the road in any given period. To my mind that’s a far more accurate comparison of real safety of the different means of getting about, from the individual’s point of view (although I’m happy to hear any reasons why I’m mistaken on that).Posted 6 years agoaracerSubscriber
Looking at the data there for fatal collisions caused by drivers with criminal records and motoring offences, would it be so unreasonable to reconsider the idea of banning such people from driving? Do we really need to have HGV and PSV drivers with criminal records on the roads – they appear to cause a hugely disproportionate number of fatal collisions (the distinction with motoring offences is less clear cut, no that so many people have one of those – would like to see the stats excluding SP30s).Posted 6 years agowhatnobeerMember
However, the police figures do not reflect the full scale of death and injury on the roads. Many incidents go unreported.
Surely if someone is killed (or even seriously injured) in a RTC then the police must record it? Cant imagine there’s deaths on the road and the police not being involved?Posted 6 years agoGrahamSSubscriber
Hmm.. the maps round my way seems to show the benefits of having a good usable network of off-road or “quiet road” NCN routes. Strikes me it would be interesting to correlate cyclist risk on the road with the provision of cycling facilities in the area.
All very sad reading though, “The weather was fine and it was daylight. The rider of the bicycle, a boy aged seven, died.” 🙁Posted 6 years agoGary_MMember
I’m trying to get my head round the Criminal record statistic. So 35% of cyclists who are involved in an accident and are found to be at blame, have a criminal record?
A third of all cyclists who cause an accident have previous?
But you need to look at the numbers, there can’t be that many cyclists involved in a fatal collision that actually caused the collision. There might only be 10 people for example, 3.5 with criminal records.Posted 6 years ago5labMember
most collisions wouldn’t just have one party ‘responsable’ – there’s nearly always something either party could do to help avoid the situation – be it cycling more devensively or whatever. Some accidents are one sided (someone mounts a pavement for example), but if someone gets squished under the wheels of a lorry (as happened in that sad tale in scotland) there would be actions on both side which could have reduced the chances of it happeningPosted 6 years agocrankboyMember
8 deaths in my area involving bikes too many to count with cars ! not sure what that means, possibly ban cars from city centers. (obviously only practical if you value human life above convenience)
Lots of people with criminal records ride bikes they are easy to steal or cheap and if you have been banned from driving for a criminal offence a legal means of transport.Posted 6 years ago
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