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  • Edukator
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    If all that you wrote in your PM is true, Jamba, why do you post such utter nonsense on this thread. Your PM is is fact based, your posting on this thread was extremist Brexiter tosh.

    I’m sure you could both make a positive contribution but choose not to, prefering to wind up people you address as mountain biking ignoraomuses.

    Premier Icon teamhurtmore
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    Anyway, any chance of an answer as to why Irish headlines would be hinting to domestic difficulties?

    You see ED? Good old DD is concerned over my comments over whether there is any link between the timing of headlines re the border and domestic political issues. Totally different to what you suggest. As per…

    Wow, you need to calm down. Your accusations are becoming more and more outlandish. Ten deep breathes…..

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    Kelvin – banks fund themselves via deposits and borrowings.They are not financed by governments.

    Brilliant swerve. A reminder of your intellect. Now, do central banks lend to banks?

    Edukator
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    You’re talking in riddle again, THM. Who is “ED”? I haven’t commented on the timing of Irish headlines.

    Just winding someone up again I suppose but it shouldn’t be me so who is “ED”?

    Ten deep breathes…..

    More Micky taking, THM. ****

    Premier Icon Del
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    deadlydarcy
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    Would a change to the party of government in Ireland lead to a change in the government’s approach to Brexit and the NI Border? (The answer to this one is easy for you thm, even with your admitted scant knowledge of Irish domestic politics.)

    Leading on to why you think there’s a connection between headlines and “domestic difficulties”. Go on, do tell.

    Premier Icon teamhurtmore
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    At the margin and in exceptional circumstances.

    In the main, banks funding comes predominantly from deposits and wholesale funding (borrowing) and the other side of their liabilities is equity. ed was simply confusing extraordinary policies with what happens generally. You decide if that was for effect or not.

    Premier Icon teamhurtmore
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    Some guy who writes a lot of things on here that are incorrect. You see his posts a lot.

    Anyway back to client meetings now to discuss Brexshit some more!!

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    How much is the TFS worth? £100billion? Glad it occurred, and it may well be on the margins, and the referendum result has put us into exception circumstances. More than a bit harsh to go at someone for pointing out that lending from central banks to banks occurs though, don’t you think?

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    TMH has been very polite to you

    Has he ****. He’s continually tried to bait him into the thread like the pathetic little man he is to try and score points to boost his ego and ‘win’ the internet by being obtuse.

    All the while hell refuse to engage with anything that doesnt fit his narrative. Much like you jamba.

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    There’s an incredible irony in the fact that a minority UK government, mainly consisting of foaming-at-the-mouth, right-wing headbangers, and propped up by a bunch of even more right-wing, ultra-hardline, creationist nut-jobs are doing more to bring about a united Ireland than the IRA managed in a decades-long campaign of violence

    Edukator
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    Your twisting what I said, THM I’m not confused, I’mm fully aware of all the ways banks are funding. You denied with “nope” the eexistenceo fo one of them.

    There’s no point to this, THM, Tj got banned because of your wilful provocation. Your only reaqson to be here is to attack other posters.

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    Who is “ED”?

    I think his deliberate changing of people’s names is probably in some senior civil servant training manual about how to project authority by belittling people. It’s pretty pathetic really, and a sure sign that his overt confidence is not quite underpinned by his soaring intellect.

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    That is unfair. Just using shorthand, no? Like others using “THM”?

    Edukator
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    I’m not bothered by the abreviation just that I’ve said nothing on that issue.

    This place sucks some days, and that nuber of days is increasing. One apple to poison the barrel. Swimming time.

    Premier Icon dazh
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    Maybe I’m being too harsh? He does have a habit of it though. Obviously with such towering intelligence attention to detail is something that suffers 🙂

    deadlydarcy
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    There’s an incredible irony in the fact that a minority UK government, mainly consisting of foaming-at-the-mouth, right-wing headbangers, and propped up by a bunch of even more right-wing, ultra-hardline, creationist nut-jobs are doing more to bring about a united Ireland than the IRA managed in a decades-long campaign of violence

    You know, I never really thought it would actually happen – not a UI – that is inevitable at some stage – but I await the first Tory to hint that a UI might be the best solution to enable their plan. A party that has tried never to publicly allow Irish Nationalism an inch may soon have members that will support the idea. 😆

    Premier Icon binners
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    It’s just another example of the way in which a totally toxic, evangelical (Faragist?) anti-Europeanism has now completely driven out everything else in the Tory party, not least any rationality or pragmatism. It now more resembles a religious cult, more than a political party

    Look how the alleged Marxist Jeremy Corbyn gets a better reception at the CBI than a sitting Tory PM, as he’s the least worst option. Weren’t the Tories always ‘The Party of Business’?

    Not any more, they’re not.

    Even that must be sacrificed at the alter of Brexit

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    Remember, as regards the Irish border, some of the ultra Brexit players predict/want either Ireland to leave the EU as well, or for all the people in NI to give up on the idea of any joint/fluid national identity.

    mrlebowski
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    but not an undemocratic remoaner

    Not this tired load of tosh again…

    The more you bang on about “the will of the people” & “remoaner” the more panicky you sound….

    It’s getting tiring, but the end is in sight. The chronically bad budget & economic forecast is finally going to make it’s mark. Sooner or later, folks are going to realise Brexit is a stitch up, a really fing bad idea & a re-count will be called for.

    That’s not undemocratic – it’s just correcting a really fing bad idea.

    The upside is it’ll be the end of the Tories for at least a decade..

    Premier Icon teamhurtmore
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    Thanks kelvin

    Next thing we know folk will be posting #jambabollocks and things like that. Or maybe really rude and say TH 😉

    mrlebowski
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    #jambabollocks

    Well, if he does post lies again – I think it’ll be well deserved..

    mickmcd
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    That silly cow should be gone never in my wildest imagination did I ever think the benefit price to the EUROPEAN Union would be hidden from the public surely public funds should be appropriated and accounted for this is bloody insane …end rant but as said above once that gets made public it’s over for the Tories and jezza will get the blame for the shithole after it’s another Tory masterstroke

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    So what do we reckon is going to drop today given the ginger unimportant prince was allowed to announce his engagement today 😉

    Still no idea why Liam Fox is going off script then?

    deadlydarcy
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    Remember, as regards the Irish border, some of the ultra Brexit players predict/want either Ireland to leave the EU as well

    To read some of their stuff on social media, some of them appear to think the British Isles is still all one country. 🙂

    Ireland remaining is not hard boiled at all. There is a significant eurosceptic movement that holds fresh the memories of the troika around the time of the global crash.

    I think the UK making such a bollix of it so far has slightly hardened the pro-EU side. As has the EU’s support for solutions before talks wrt the border.

    deadlydarcy
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    I thought you had important meetings thm. Any chance of an answer to that question yet? It was a pretty easy one.

    mrlebowski
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    It is horrific to think that the final bill may well never be disclosed….

    Why?

    Why hide the numbers?

    Come on THM et al – wriggle your way out of that!

    What about the 58 studies on Brexit & it’s impact that are being withheld?

    If it’s such a cooking idea……lets bloody have them!

    Pah, load of tosh & the Brexiteers know it……

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    Still no idea why Liam Fox is going off script then?

    There’s a script? 😯

    sobriety
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    There’s a script?

    I believe it was ‘Have cake and eat it’

    Nice to see that it’s all going spiffingly.

    rone
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    In the main, banks funding comes predominantly from deposits and wholesale funding (borrowing) and the other side of their liabilities is equity. ed was simply confusing extraordinary policies with what happens generally. You decide if that was for effect or not.

    Even according to the BoE the bank’s funding doesn’t come from deposits.

    “Rather than banks receiving deposits when households
    save and then lending them out, bank lending creates
    deposits.”

    deviant
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    Create a united Ireland but anyone in Ulster who wants a UK passport can have one.

    Give the EU their divorce bill out of the foreign aid budget, lol….we’ll see how badly they want it then.

    This is easy.

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    deviant – Member
    Create a united Ireland but anyone in Ulster who wants a UK passport can have one.

    thats is not going to go down well with some (who happen to have TM by the balls)

    Give the EU their divorce bill out of the foreign aid budget, lol….we’ll see how badly they want it then.

    This is easy.

    Im sure its very easy in your head

    Tom_W1987
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    Who cares what the orange brigade thinks. Just let the Irish sort it out amongst themselves, ie kill each other to death.

    We can livestream it on tv and throw in a few airstrikes for added entertainment value.

    Premier Icon Del
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    PUBG – Eire and NI DLC?
    😯

    Premier Icon dissonance
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    thats is not going to go down well with some

    If only they hadnt taken that other cash bung from dubious sources to push for brexit.

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    Rone. That is a very good post but technically slightly different. Your BoE reference was a belated recognition that banks do not merely intermediate between savers/depositors. For many decades and in most textbooks this was how banking was explained.

    But as the BoE note, banks create the loan first and this then becomes a deposit. Most people and many bankers don’t understand this. They still think it’s the other way round.

    But that does not mean your conclusion is correct. It isn’t. Deposits remain the main source of funding followed by wholesale funding (debt) despite what others would like you to misbelieve

    Google any bank websites and look at their liabilities in the annual report. But go careful on Ed as the truth seems to upset him.

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    But as the BoE note, banks create the loan first and this then becomes a deposit. Most people and many bankers don’t understand this. They still think it’s the other way round.

    Like bookies innit? 😉

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    Anyone listen to Kate Hoey (Labour Brexiteer) on the Today programme this morning?

    She wants to build a big beautiful wall and make the Mexicans Irish pay for it:

    “We’re not the ones who will be putting up the physical border. If this ends up with a no-deal we won’t be putting up the border they’ll have to pay for it because it doesn’t need to happen.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/kate-hoey-radio-4-today-interview_uk_5a1bd32ce4b064948075558d

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    Not really 😉 but it is the complete opposite to how people think banks work which is one reason why the BoE wrote the piece that rone refers to.

    I send it to loads of people!! It’s an excellent article.

    How are you IGM? Nice to have some sanity restored after being told that two direct substitutes are the same thing !

    Tom_W1987
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    Actually I think shes taking after the Mexicans….

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