- EU Referendum – are you in or out?
Trolls will be trolls @deadly who did you vote for Labour stood on a manifesto with honouring Brexit and wnding freedom if movement hence an exit of THE single marke amd the customs union. Unless you voted Lub Dem or Green you supported Brexit.
IMO a WTO Brexit is now much more likely than it was on June 7thPosted 9 months ago
Calm down jamba – I realise you’re finally coming to terms with what we were all telling you ages ago. But it’s ok. Just relax a bit man.
EDIT: oh and,
Trolls will be trolls @deadly who did you vote for
A pro-remain labour candidate. Just like the rest of Bristol. You probably wouldn’t like it here too much. 😀Posted 9 months ago
David Davis has been stripped of his most hardline Brexit minister in the latest sign that Theresa May is planning to soften the terms of Britain’s exit from the European Union.
David Jones, a minister of state in the Department for Exiting the EU, was sacked as by Mrs May, who failed to tell the Brexit minister about her plans.
He was replaced by Baroness Anelay, who is thought to have supported the Remain campaign before last year’s EU referendum.
TelegraphPosted 9 months ago
I dont think ken clarke will be voting with the tories so take at least one off – given that why did dear leader have a vote to strengthen her position ? did she need more labour support and less tories 😉
PLP rejoicing at the election result and welcoming JC….how is strong and stable working out for Mummy?
Its such a strange time when the losers feel better than the winner.Posted 9 months ago
We wont ever see that again IMHO.
Anyway that’s not trolling – this is trolling.Posted 9 months ago
Corbyn said that he looked forwards to a Queen’s speech “just as soon as the coalition of chaos has been negotiated”, before adding, to laughter: “Just to let the house and the rest of the nation know, if that’s not possible the Labour party stands ready to offer strong and stable leadership in the national interest.”
Trouble is the Lawson/jambas significant short term hit to the economy (aka WTO) will cause misery to millions (but worth it for those rich folk who won’t suffer)
Now that may doesn’t have that majority it’s all up for grabs
I have faith in starmer etc getting Brexit reversed (part of the reason I , like many others voted labour, lib Dems just weren’t a realistic prospect) , dunno how but there’s a path to a 2nd ref somehow and 500k voters turn 18 every year and 500k (actually now more as the Tory NHS/social care attack does its best) OAPs die
I know I’m being a hopeless romantic , but I’d like to think the UK can turn back from this path to fantasy nostalgia little Britain isolationism and idiocyPosted 9 months ago
I do see a set of conditions where hard brexit is possible. Something like may clinging on, getting a rubbish deal with her typical level of political skill being offered a remain (go and think about clause) storming off and defying Parliament and signing it before retiring to somewhere in the empire.Posted 9 months ago
Probably good odds on there being a you can stay look at the damage done choice.
@deadly why don’t you quote a specifc post with the 150 number in so we get a timestamp and then I can show you dozens of subsequent posts with 75-100 which matched all the “experts”
No such thing as a “pro Remain” Labour candidate, see the A50 vote majority, look at the manifesto and listen to the leadership.
Spent 3 years in Bristol at Uni, I don’t donate to the Uni as too left wing. Life member of Uni Rugby Club fwiw (ie I made some dinations when they where raising funds).Posted 9 months ago
@kimbers Macron (and some other German politicians) are still clinging to the forlorn hope that we stay. He is well aware of what a massive bugdgetary loss the UK is to the EU as well as the prospect of losing tariff free access to such a valuable and wealthy market if the EU sticks to its Brexit Bill precondition and we leave and resort to WTO. Then we should add in immigration, with the UK outside the freedom of movement zone France will have to cope with even more immigration. Macron would really rather we stayed, that’s obvious.Posted 9 months ago
Wait and see Jamba.
Your problem is there is little if any support for your preferred Armageddon solution, and a soft Brexit may be difficult to achieve – which leaves no Brexit. Palatable to many, and damaging to no one really.
Wait and see is indeed the best post on here for a while.
I see more opportunity in new global trade deals that I see in expending energy talking ith EU egotists desperate to maintain their vanity project / gravy train
Far from being an “Armageddon” even the IMF (lead by ex-French finance Minister and big pro-EU Christine Lagrande) says a WTO Brexit the UK would still continue to grow even without assuming any new trade deals.
The vast majority of rest of the world trades very nicely with the EU under WTO, as would we.Posted 9 months ago
Thanks Jam Bo. Rusty so shall we add up all the other subsequent posts with 75-100 predictions. Surely just changing my prediction is an admission of being “wrong”. Also if you read a few other threads you will see I said exactly what you are suggesting I have not. From memory once in direct responce to Pigface making such a request.Posted 9 months agomikewsmithSubscriber
I can show you dozens of subsequent posts with 75-100 which matched all the “experts”
And yet as the experts listened to and saw the evidence of a change you called them all out as headline generators and polling to sell papers.
The vast majority of rest of the world trades very nicely with the EU under WTO, as would we.
But how would it be better? Tariffs are like extra vat. Don’t quote yachts or the “average” where would it hit people and where would exports be hit. It will cost the UK consumers more than today.
WTO Brexit the UK would still continue to grow even without assuming any new trade deals.
Was that quantified? Continents are moving closer but I’m still going to fly rather than wait for the land bridge to arrive.Posted 9 months ago
You didn’t just change your position you said ‘my prediction remains 75-100′
You’ve been caught bullshitting so much you’ve got your own meme!
You are the perfect example of Vote Leave, the Brexit bus in human form!
Brexit has made us all poorer, exports are up but growth has slowed so we’ve sunk to the bottom of the G7…… but you can’t even consider admitting that you might be wrongPosted 9 months agoRusty SpannerSubscriber
Rusty so shall we add up all the other subsequent posts with 75-100 predictions. Surely just changing my prediction is an admission of being “wrong”.
If you feel you want to, please do.
And why the quotation marks?
You were wrong.
I’d respect you a little more if you admitted it.Posted 9 months ago
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