EU Referendum – are you in or out?

Interesting and succinct little piece by the man now dismissing regulatory alignment with the rest of Europe (remember, the current “project” is much bigger than just the EU member countries)…

https://www.sajidjavid.com/news/sajid-javid-only-thing-leaving-eu-guarantees-lost-decade-british-business

as those in charge have no idea.

They know exactly what they want and how its going to turn out. Deregulated sweatshop economy with more hoarding of riches for the rich. It matters nothing to them what actually happens overall to the economy so long as they retain more wealth and power. ie 5% reduction in GDP is irrelevant if they have 10% more share of the wealth.

Agree with TJ, many of the current crop of ministers know exactly how they want this to pan out… read what they have written in the past… it’s just that it’s diametrically opposite to how they have won their mandate to “escape” the Single Market and to form the government… and so we will slide towards their end game… as if by accident… rather than them declaring too early that it is what they are after. Workers will be screwed over. The “investors” with the ear of government will do nicely enough, thank you very much.

Oh spekkie..your nom de plume is so apt

Just do it! (As Nike would say)

Interesting and succinct little piece by the man now dismissing regulatory alignment with the rest of Europe (remember, the current “project” is much bigger than just the EU member countries)…

https://www.sajidjavid.com/news/sajid-javid-only-thing-leaving-eu-guarantees-lost-decade-british-business

Funny how the ministerial car changes your view on these things 🙂

If our media was any good this would have been smashed into his face.

Funny how it’s still on his website.

In today’s “you couldn’t make it up” news, Brexiter complains that we won’t have a say in EU policy post-brexit:

Attending the penultimate session of the #EuropeanParliament’s #FisheriesCommittee #PECHcommittee) with #BritishMEPs. The big question now is, who will be here to hold these people to account while they still control Britain’s waters, but the UK has no representation? pic.twitter.com/5gB2fKHYu9

— June Mummery (@june_mummery) January 20, 2020

In today’s “you couldn’t make it up” news, Brexiter complains that we won’t have a say in EU policy post-brexit:

Person pushing idiotic policies turns out to be actual idiot shocker.

QED.

Take back control.

What is the biggest lie of Brexit? There are so many, it's hard to choose, and perhaps we should hold a competition.

Here is my choice (repeated endlessly by Brexiters of all persuasions: Brexit is about promoting free trade.

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— Richard Bentall #FBPE Project We Told You So. (@RichardBentall) January 20, 2020

““how can they plan for something that has no definition?”

How can anyone vote for something that has no definition? But they did.
How can a government implement something that has no definition? But they will.

Just do it! (As Nike would say)”

I’m assuming everyone knows that this post was me being sarcastic?

Cougar ^^^ that says much; thick as pig shit and doesn’t seem to understand the stupidity of her comment.
But…she’s a brexit MEP; that explains her ignorance.

thick as pig shit 

she’s a brexit MEP

The correlation is strong with this one.

She will probably end her days trying to use a toaster in the bath and wonder why that went wrong too.

Denmark introduces a minimum wage for foreign truckers. Have the U.K. govt done such a thing ? NO – many truck drivers voted leave because of “ undercutting “ by cheaper trucks from the continent .. just saying https://t.co/DGgrc7YEI9

— ciaran the euro courier ???? (@vanmaneuro) January 21, 2020

In today’s “you couldn’t make it up” news, Brexiter complains that we won’t have a say in EU policy post-brexit:

You won, get over it!

The same Jane Mummery who’s representing fishing & complaining about electro shock fishing & saying it should be banned, when in fact, the EU are banning it from next year.

The same Jane Mummery who’s representing fishing & complaining about electro shock fishing & saying it should be banned, when in fact, the EU are banning it from next year.

It’s almost as though she is a total moron and a chancer, isn’t it?

And she ‘rose’ to be an MEP, so we can assume Leavers might regard her as the brains of the operation to a certain extent(?)

And they wonder why sensible folk laugh at them…

Off on a rare visit to my brexit supporting head office nr Mansfield tomorrow, got my copy of Sajid Javids 2016 pro remain interview ready to wave in their faces if any of them dare to gloat 🙄

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence…

Recent data from the British Retail Consortium revealed that retail sales fell for the first time in a quarter of a century last year.

BBC sauce

They know exactly what they want and how its going to turn out. Deregulated sweatshop economy with more hoarding of riches for the rich. It matters nothing to them what actually happens overall to the economy so long as they retain more wealth and power. ie 5% reduction in GDP is irrelevant if they have 10% more share of the wealth.

I keep hearing this sort of thing, but I’m not convinced it’s true. I’ve always been a remain/Lib Dem voter, so I don’t have a pro-Brexit axe to grind here.

I really don’t think that anyone would benefit from the sort of economy you’re describing. In fact, I can’t even begin to think of any existing developed economy in the world that resembles what you describe; the UK is a high labour cost country – you’re not going to change that by leaving the EU and relaxing a few H&S regulations.

A 5% reduction in GDP would be disastrous for any governing party, so let’s get back down to earth and some common sense here.

JP

thick as pig shit

Of course it is beside the point that what she said was completely consistent with the Brexit party’s position and it makes perfect sense in that context.

Of course it is beside the point that what she said was completely consistent with the Brexit party’s position and it makes perfect sense in that context.

Why was she talking about it in that way, then? Did you read any of her further replies?

It is a stretch to suggest that she is not just as thick as pig shit.

The fact that she is aligned with a political party and policy that is also thick as pig shit is neither here nor there.

It all points in the same direction.

A 5% reduction in GDP would be disastrous for any governing party, so let’s get back down to earth and some common sense here.

A 3-4% reduction is what’s forecast (by the Government amongst others).

A 3-4% reduction is what’s forecast (by the Government amongst others).

3% by the ‘others’ was based on Maybot’s less damaging deal than ****face Johnson doing his Poundshop Trump act.

5% minimum if these clowns are left to it, which they will be.

The strategy is fairly simple in respect to the economy its all around transfer of wealth.

Its easy to overheat an ecomomy just chuck money at infrastructure, curtail immigration of skilled people which drives up wages, cut taxes at all levels, keep the housing supply tight, borrow shed loads of cheap money to prop it up for 5 years and get relected.

However in the background a significant amount of this debt is filtered into private businesses in the form of contracts and PFI style agreements for services in the UK. Slash import tariffs make beer and sandwiches cheap as chips. Get the great unwashed out spending their new found wealth… then in around 7 years time that bubble bursts. Just around the same time UK agriculture shifts to gardening and keeping footpaths tidy for their subsidy (dole) cheque.

By the way this has all been done before nowt new above. More of a deindutrialisation you could say

You know it doesn’t take much to make people happy…

If they scrap the working time directive and drive minimum wage up to £10 an hour for a 60 hour week then all of a sudden you double your income.

If the Boris/Cummins mantra takes this type of direction which i think it will then Labour have a huge problem.

Of course it is beside the point that what she said was completely consistent with the Brexit party’s position and it makes perfect sense in that context.

If at nigel wasn’t such a hypocrite she might have a point

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/09/nigel-farage-fishermen-ignored-ukip-brexit

Besides which even after the transition we have no voice there whatsoever and it turns out fish don’t know much about international maritime borders

Besides which even after the transition we have no voice there whatsoever and it turns out fish don’t know much about international maritime borders

Ungrateful, unpatriotic bastards.

It is also worth noting that 1% drop in GDP is £21bn if you use the 2018 GDP number.

Net UK contribution to EU 2018 was £9bn.

Basically if GDP contracts by anything more than 0.4% we will be worse off. 4% is ten times that.

Only a person with shit for brains would think that is a price worth paying. Particularly when Brexit will also hurt us politically.

Makes you wonder what the point really is, doesn’t it…

No, if GDP grows just 0.4% less than it otherwise would have, we are worse off… even if you ignore all the extra costs inherent in Brexit. If GDP actually drops, rather than we have lower growth, we’re in a right mess.

Apologies, in previous instances of using these figures I have made it clear that it is a contraction compared to what it should have been.

You are correct, although given the small overall growth in the ‘should have been’ scenario the figures in £s are pretty damned similar.

We did a pretty good job of destroying the UK fish stocks before joining the EU and got ourselves into a few dicey spots like with Iceland and then to cap it all, the Government of the time facilitated the sale of boat licenses and quotas to non-UK owners and yet we get all dewey-eyed about them?

the UK is a high labour cost country – you’re not going to change that by leaving the EU and relaxing a few H&S regulations.

but if you were to overhaul the benefits system you could have a lot of folk looking for a job. Some unskilled factory work in an export processing zone may be more attractive than starvation.

"The reality is that half of your trade goes to the EU. Britain’s trade with Australia is a very small percentage.”

Former Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull says a trade deal with the UK is “not a substitute for the EU”#Newsnight | @TurnbullMalcolm pic.twitter.com/5xjUKW3bj7

— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) January 21, 2020

LAT
but if you were to overhaul the benefits system you could have a lot of folk looking for a job. Some unskilled factory work in an export processing zone may be more attractive than starvation.

Perhaps slavery could be reintroduced too, then factory owners could beat their workers as well.

Increasingly … Johnson’s Brexit is something done by England to everyone else…

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-51181641

The Welsh Assembly has joined the Scottish Parliament and the Northern Ireland Assembly in rejecting the Brexit bill.

It means all of the UK’s devolved law-making bodies have voted against the withdrawal agreement legislation.

Perhaps slavery could be reintroduced too, then factory owners could beat their workers as well.

That is such a vulgar and illegal term. Perhaps, in this modern age, we can rebrand it to something more suitable, like being part of a “National Workforce Pool” or “Compulsory British Workforce”.

Remember, if you refuse to take part, it’s unpatriotic and you must be a Remoaner

but if you were to overhaul the benefits system you could have a lot of folk looking for a job

Well the tories have already had a go at thinning the population by overhauling the benefit system

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pip-waiting-time-deaths-disabled-people-die-disability-benefits-personal-independence-payment-dwp-a8727296.html

Repeating myself, I know, but … increasingly … Johnson’s Brexit is something done by England to everyone else…

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51173850

The UK government says Gibraltar cannot independently negotiate a passport-free travel deal with the EU after Brexit.

How long before Javid caves in? https://news.sky.com/story/us-threatens-car-tax-in-retaliation-for-digital-tax-11914884
Having said that perhaps the tories have decided the car industry is stuffed after Brexit anyway…