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  • EU Referendum – are you in or out?
  • rone
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    How totally typical of Corbyn. Can we have his usual myopic cheerleaders justify that then.

    So perhaps Corbyn left because he knew he was wasting his time? Ah.

    And you fell for the smokescreen…

    Do you think perhaps you’re a tad reactionary?

    cloudnine
    Free Member

    She’s on my side!
    So why won’t she cancel Brexit if she’s on my side?

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Finally, a cogent explanation for Corbyn’s walk-out:

    Put that on a bus!

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    Put Corbyn on the bus or that statement 😉

    Honestly, you just act like a grown up then come out and slag her off properly

    richmtb
    Full Member

    Nailed

    BoardinBob
    Full Member

    She is only speaking for/to the brexiteers

    Us in the 48% can go and fornicate ourselves as far as she’s concerned

    She is one of the worst people I think I’ve ever encountered

    raybanwomble
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    She is one of the worst people I think I’ve ever encountered

    The country and the electorate have well and truly got what they deserved.

    molgrips
    Free Member

    Looks to me like she might be just trying set up people to blame for when she inevitably fails for the final time.

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    Yeah, I reckon so.

    They deserve it though.

    The festering shit and exceptionalism at the heart of this country is being brilliantly exposed.

    binners
    Full Member

    May in saying nothing new shocka!

    Her total dearth of imagination or pragmatism is staggering. And the leader of HM opposition goes out of his way tonight to prove that he’s easily her equal on that score

    So, does anyone think that there’s any other realistic option than crashing our next Friday?

    Best start stockpiling. 8 days to economic Armageddon

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    Already ordering 3 months of lenses, 100 quid of canned and dried goods, useful over the counter medicines, bandages etc. Sterling changed to dollars.

    Does a crossbow seem like a good shout Binners? 😀

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    So, does anyone think that there’s any other realistic option than crashing our next Friday?

    Cancel or GE, I can see a NC vote going through at this stage

    I don’t think it will be quite Game of Thrones but…

    Et Tu Borris or will it be from somewhere closer

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Talking of grown-ups, I’m getting ready for them to intervene as promised earlier in the thread!

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Corbyn walking out of the meeting made no difference, we all know that May would say nothing new, but it just makes him look like hes not cooperating at a time when the country wants leadership & cooperation.

    Both parties are being eaten up by this

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    Good, I hope Corbyn doesn’t survive the fallout.

    **** him as much as May. He’s **** complicit as well.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    well i called this, shes alienated even more tories now

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    Hahahah **** brilliant.

    P-Jay
    Free Member

    Had a great night ride tonight, shouldn’t have checked the news, but somehow May and Corbyn have really up their game in the Tosspot stakes.

    If there is an upside to a no-deal departure next week, it’ll be that their couldn’t be many left you actually think that either Labour or the Tories or their current leaders have actually done anything but **** us all over in the last 1000 days to try to further their own twisted causes.

    raybanwomble
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    It feels to me like the entire establishment has lost any semblance of legitimacy, no matter which side of the Brexit debate you were on. By trying to pander to both sides they have **** off the entire country.

    Interesting times ahead.

    There are going to be brownshirts, socialists and anarchists battling it out in the street in the not too distant future.

    mariner
    Free Member

    Read a great thing today but cant remember where so to paraphrase –
    Just write ‘we left the EU’ on the side of a red bus and drive it about for a bit then all the leavers will think we left.

    molgrips
    Free Member

    I hope Corbyn doesn’t survive the fallout.

    I have a feeling that the fallout from this is going to be sesimic enough to shake up the whole political system. So you might get your wish.

    5lab
    Full Member

    Is there anything to stop her revoking article 50 then re-invoking it the same day, giving us a 2 year extension? It’ll obviously annoy a few folks, but seems like a reasonable ‘kick the can’ option (note, it’d probably be the end of any political career, but that doesn’t seem like much of a loss..)

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    Is there anything to stop her revoking article 50 then re-invoking it the same day, giving us a 2 year extension? It’ll obviously annoy a few folks, but seems like a reasonable ‘kick the can’ option (note, it’d probably be the end of any political career..)

    Bin Dun a few times but it’s basically taking the piss and the rules say we can’t – came out in the review that said we could revoke

    olddog
    Full Member

    From a Telegraph journalist

    https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/1108481513069445121?s=09

    I am beginning to believe she knows she’s lost any chance of passing WA and so is choosing to go down in a blazing fireball of acrimony and blame shifting

    tjagain
    Full Member

    5lab IIRC when ther decision was given that the UK could revoke a50 unilaterally it came with a proviso that this could not be for gaming the system so I think she would be in trouble doing it that way.

    leffeboy
    Full Member

    but somehow May and Corbyn have really up their game in the Tosspot stakes.

    rather an excellent summary really

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    AD, that article rationalizes what I have been feeling over the past couple of days.

    UK politics just went from twilight to pitch black with thick fog and wolves howling in the distance.

    binners
    Full Member

    This whole thing started as an internal barney in the Tory party, and it’s still just that.

    What’s staggering is what they’re prepared to sacrifice for their little spat. The entire countries economy, apparently

    All us mere minions are incidental in their parlour game. Isn’t it all a frightfully jolly wheeze?

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    It’s gone well beyond threatening just the Tory party Binners, I think some of them have just realised the true scale and horror of what is now happening to representative democracy in the UK. Whilst they have been running around trying to fix the bilge pumps, they’ve failed to notice iceberg right in front of them and the U-boat to port.

    vinnyeh
    Full Member

    I do wish THM would return to assure us all that the grown-ups have it all under control…

    olddog
    Full Member

    Yes the article AD published is excellent. This is why I keep banging on about May setting herself outside and against Parliament and it being so dangerous and delusional

    It’s never really reported this way but Parliament generally works collaboratively – PMQs is the exception. Legislation requires compromise if the Executive wants to get it’s full programme through in a session. Committees work cross party everyday. Parliament works on consent but because of this the checks are balances rely on adherence to a set of values and conventions rather than hard rules

    May has trampled roughshod on this and now has the audacity to blame Parliament. She is truly anti-democratic and she deserves to get the harshest of criticism from across the House – but mostly from her own MPs if they have any respect for our political process

    binners
    Full Member

    True, but the background to this shitshow is Boris saying ‘David got to be PM so I want to be PM too!” And all manner of that shit!

    Paired with the Labour Party determined to become the People’s front of Judea, it’s the perfect storm

    And not one of them gives a shit about the people. Both parties are totally self-serving and us lot are frankly incidental

    When we crash out next week I hope they get to reap what they’ve sown. Be held accountable for their lies. If Boris ends up swinging from a lamppost, there would be a certain poetic justice to that

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Calm down and delete the calls to violence, please.

    richardkennerley
    Full Member

    The number of signature on that petition is rising fast, a few hundred every time you refresh the screen!

    kimbers
    Full Member

    so thats why she was so pissy, she actually thinks its all their fault

    well it’s massively backfired, labour & Tory MPs , Journailists from all sides of the brexit cahsm saying tonights speech was a mistake

    I think finally we may see a new PM very soon, maybe

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    May has trampled roughshod on this and now has the audacity to blame Parliament.

    In most years, A PM labelling most of her Parliamentary colleagues as ‘enemies of the people’ would be considered extraordinary, almost a resigning matter of itself. These are not normal times…

    dmorts
    Full Member

    She is only speaking for/to the brexiteers

    Us in the 48% can go and fornicate ourselves as far as she’s concerned

    Yes and this is so short-sighted (the 48% are not going anywhere)…. as is any attempt to make out the EU are the bad guys (we will still have to deal with them, best to have them onside)… as is any fudge on the Irish border (a solution will still have to be found)

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