If we are doing songs…

England made me and here I’ll stay
Emgland made me, let England deal with me.

I will fight these **** until the day I die.

Here is the measure of Theresa May’s failure last night – according to an observer of her request to EU leaders for…

Posted by Robert Peston on Friday, December 14, 2018

What a mess!

Eek.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46564884

So a little more cost associated with Brexit – every little helps…

& what’s going to happen to the E111 health form thing?

& what’s going to happen to the E111 health form thing?

invalid. travel insurance costs will go up like they are for non-EU destinations at the moment.

We’ve really shown them & taken back control.

or that may just be project fear and the EU will fall over themselves to treat us plucky brits that manage to escape…

or that may just be project fear and the EU will fall over themselves to treat us plucky brits that manage to escape…

How, exactly, does one go about claiming political asylum?

travel insurance costs will go up like they are for non-EU destinations at the moment

Extra fun/expense if you have a pre-existing condition, like T1 Diabetes.

And… raising your eye from your summer jollies… think about UK citizens living and/or working in the EU.

and the “amusing” part of the ETIAS thing, it isn’t a visa so any attempt by the UK to impose a visa as some brexiteers are calling for means reciprocal treatment. ETIAS won’t apply and you would then be liable for a full visa…. which from what i can find is of order 50-60 euro.

How, exactly, does one go about claiming political asylum?

Or you move to RoI under CTA, try and get a job, remain resident for years, claim irish citizenship and then can relocate at will in the EU.

We really are **** arent we. Destined to be stuck in limbo on the fringes with none of the benefits but all of the costs.

I’m about to go visit my parents who both voted to leave, should be an ‘intersting’ few hours avoiding any mention of this shit storm.

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How, exactly, does one go about claiming political asylum?

Or you move to RoI under CTA, try and get a job, remain resident for years, claim irish citizenship and then can relocate at will in the EU.

Or move to NI, and when it inevitably reunites with the the Republic, job done.

Or possible emigrate to Scotland for the same thing. You can help this process by telling your MP to chuck those whingeing subsidy sucking Scots out of the Union. 🙂

Anyone else noticing an increase in the number of Brexit conspiracy theorists that are popping up? Along the lines of “It’s all a secret Remain plot between May, the EU and the media – they’ve planned this all along”. In that case, well done Mrs May you’ve played a blinder, you had me fooled into thinking you and you colleagues really had no clue what was happening from one day to the next.

We really are **** arent we. Destined to be stuck in limbo on the fringes with none of the benefits but all of the costs.

Blue **** passports. Traitor.

invalid. travel insurance costs will go up like they are for non-EU destinations at the moment.

Yes my parents will be **** because my Dad has pre-existing conditions and struggles to even get insurance. Both ardent remainers in case you were wondering.

I’m about to go visit my parents who both voted to leave, should be an ‘intersting’ few hours avoiding any mention of this shit storm.

You should give them a hard time for landing you in the shit.

I’m about to go visit my parents who both voted to leave, should be an ‘intersting’ few hours avoiding any mention of this shit storm.

The dawning realisation that this is still all going to be up in the air over Christmas has come to me. Christmas with my Brexit voting Daily Mail reading inlaws has never looked so dreadful. To cap it off my MiL’s brother died last week so I’ve had to promise to be nice to her when all I want to do is shake her by her triple lock pension.

Idle thought…if we all knocked off our inlaws over the festive season not only would the world be a better place but also if a 2nd referendum comes to pass there’s a chance we’ll get to call the whole thing off.

Or possible emigrate to Scotland for the same thing. You can help this process by telling your MP to chuck those whingeing subsidy sucking Scots out of the Union

I’ll not deny that I’ve been feeling somewhat remote from much of the shenanigans on the basis that we might have one last chance to escape from the forthcoming bourach. I can’t say that I feel particularly optimistic though.

I think the @crazy-legs theory that the (a) Tory front bench will back a referendum before the Labour one does is starting to look more likely…

Pressure is mounting…

Scottish Tories are preparing to back a #PeoplesVote to break Parliamentary deadlock and save the Union, and could do so as early as next week, @chrisdeerin reports. That would be gamechanging https://t.co/eCFROpqmFk

— James Chapman (@jameschappers) December 14, 2018

…the details match up with his post very closely.

I note that the EU., an organisation consisting of no less than 27 different countries all with their own particular needs and cultures, have all been able to cooperate and agree with each other on the point of whether or not the Brexit deal is closed.

Brexit? Of course!! Who on earth would want to belong to a union as shambolic and disorganised as that? Eh? Eh?

Oh, wait….

And… raising your eye from your summer jollies… think about UK citizens living and/or working in the EU.

I have a good friends whose mum and dad recently moved to France permanently.

One has a debilitating illness which will never go. Both massively strong Leavers. Like many leavers, logic just doesn’t seem to apply.

I’ve spent a Coyle of hours on the BBC Have Your Say section this afternoon. Ostensibly discussing May’s complete and totally predictable humiliation. Again.

Honestly, the majority of leavers are utterly radicalized by Brexit. Logic and common sense count for nothing. On the few occasions there is an admission something is not really going well with this process it’s always someone else’s fault. The EU, May**, Remainers being “unpatriotic.”

I’m sure if we crash out on WTO terms, the WTO will be the next “elites” to be blamed for any hardship suffered! It’s always someone else’s fault.

Wish to Christ I had recent Irish ancestry to get an Irish passport but no dice.

**Can’t stand her but was always a poisoned chalice.

My hope is Scotland leaves Uk for EU. Then says anyone born on the island of Britain can have Scots EU passport.

If I bought a house in N.I and paid council tax would I be an N.I citizen. If I and 10 other people then bought the cheapest shack in NI with our names on the deeds would we all get NI citizenship?

Christmas with my Brexit voting Daily Mail reading inlaws has never looked so dreadful.

**** ’em. Life is far too short to be somewhere you don’t want to be. I haven’t seen my mam for a couple of weeks and don’t want to visit any time soon (me, remainer; her, DM reading loon) 🙁

Someone needs to tell the Brexiteers that we should stay in, what would be better – to leave? Or to hatch a Machiavellian plot to destroy the EU from the inside?

https://www.politico.eu/article/why-the-eu-should-fear-a-second-uk-referendum/

I mean ****, if they think we’re that evil already – we should just go full Russian, start funneling money and support to the yellow vests and the FN.

Blue **** passports. Traitor.

And toblerone. At least that’s secured.

If I bought a house in N.I and paid council tax would I be an N.I citizen. If I and 10 other people then bought the cheapest shack in NI with our names on the deeds would we all get NI citizenship?

No you would be a Brit living in Northern Ireland, Sorry but you need to be born in the island of Ireland to get an Irish passport(mind you being born in Ireland isn’t always enough, I don’t fully know the rules on that), or the child/grand child? etc of an Irish citizen.

Apologies if this has been done but it is equally hilarious and terrifying

Sadly that is representative of a lot of our population.

And why a 2nd referendum would be a risky move…

Just watched that James O’Brien clip. When asked what was so terrible in York, the chap explained it was ”the state of everything!” What does that mean?

I thought the caller was very nebulous.

Given he was born in 1983, and thought we should go back to the 1990’s, I think he just didn’t much like being a grown up.

And under WTO rules we are so rurally f**ked.#

York is pretty much remain

An engaging interlude

York is pretty much remain

The guy was a very depressing caller.
I wish he had asked
”What have continental Europeans ever done for York??”

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“What have continental Europeans ever done for York??”

Pillaged it mainly, but that was a very long time ago.

I am not sure the Vikings would appreciate being called continental Europeans.