EU Referendum – are you in or out?

The Japanese companies invested in the U.K. to take advantage of our EU membership.

Aircraft carrier U.K. (at least for the car side) without deals why bother just relocate 13 to 100 miles to the right.

Banking if you can’t deal with the EU cheaply then it’s the same relocate 13 to 100 miles right and off you go.

Businesses don’t care about people or Brexit they just need to do business efficiently.

Does Tata give a flying fk whether an Evoke is made in the U.K. if it ends up costing 30% more it won’t be made here.

(sorry to rant but May and her merry bunch doing a jig with and all we’ll have a deal with people who’ll probably couldn’t buy a wing mirror for a effing evoke with a years wages)

The media can’t get Corbyn on his policies as no one knows what they are and they guys across from him are lighting fireworks and throwing them at each other.

Ragging on people sells papers. This is what they have on offer at the moment

Yeah, I’m no fan of corbyn but the antisemitism thing seems to be mostly spin on taking the position that Palestinians are being oppressed by Israel. Given that Israel is mostly Jewish it must be antisemitism. Typical media spin mostly.

150 staff – a very small number. No flood of bankers leaving London. Banks simply making the necessary changes in advance. No need for doomsday scaremongering clearly.

No flood of bankers leaving London.

Hmm a lot of London banks have offices around Europe which they are recruiting for whilst not replacing UK based workers that leave through natural staff turnover.

And we’ve not actually left yet… Almost all multinationals are already making signs now by winding up operations in the UK through similar passive means.

The actual axing will start after March unless the status quo is maintained.

On the contrary we have French banks hiring in London to take advantage of anyone being distracted by the noise. HSBC has 10,0000 staff in its main Canary Wharf office and many more in the nearby offices. Cant recall RBS total staff numbers but the context is clear. 150 is a small number

No floods, no wind ups. No panic.

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…No floods, no wind ups. No panic.

Well, that is good news.

Why is it not getting prominence in the media?

Why would they give prominence to a trickle? It’s largely a non story.

8500 in Canary Wharf according to HSBC.

BNP Parisbas assessment of post brexit sounds great; “We believe that precisely at the moment where the UK may be more isolated than in the past, it will be more important than ever for UK corporates to have a core continental bank with them.” So they seem to be exploiting predicted brexit problems

And hiring in London at this moment. Winding up

good to Barnier up to his usual tricks.

That’s nothing to be exited about .. Unemployment rules don’t kick in until 2 years service and even then you only get 1 weeks pay per year served so when things go titddies up they can just be made redundant.

Anyone in fin services is well aware of that. Still does not change the fact that the wind down thesis is easily falsified as is the flood of bankers.

I am glad you are here THM to tell those banks what to do for Brexit.

Were you on holiday in 2007/2008 when they lost all those millions ?

Thats 150 more jobs lost at RBS – not 150 in total.  Its in addition to those already moved or announced to move

More good news which shows everything is going splendidly, there is no damage from brexit and Mays goons are doing splendidly

Britain’s leading role in evaluating new medicines for sale to patients across the EU has collapsed with no more work coming from Europe because of Brexit, it has emerged.

The decision by the European Medicines Agency to cut Britain out of its contracts seven months ahead of Brexit is a devastating blow to British pharmaceutical companies already reeling from the loss of the EMA’s HQ in London and with it 900 jobs.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/02/britain-loses-medicines-contracts-as-eu-body-anticipates-brexit

Still – blue passports!

Not lost. Moved. I’ve done it many times. You should try it.

1%

if it were my kids, I would tell them to jump at the opportunity. I did and loved it. That’s why I encouraged them to become fluent in a European language. Prepare for the…

given the low numbers (1-2%) involved the competition might be tough to get the postings though

Sorry, I’ve been away this weekend. A reply from the previous page:

@mods who also post as ‘users’. I don’t like suggesting this, but are you able to start each post with a quick indicator as to which ‘mode’ you are in (I know I’ve seen you do this on occasion).

I do try and do this but don’t always remember. As a rule of thumb I’m generally posting as a user, and if I don’t explicitly specify otherwise then I’d hope it was abundantly clear when I wasn’t.

I take great pains not to conflate the roles or ‘abuse my position.’ And I take it somewhat personally when “yes but mod” is used as an argument. If that accusation held any water we’d just be instabanning anyone ever who disagreed with us, which is demonstrably not true.

What grown ups don’t do it throw their toys out the pram, disappear off the forum for months then come back and behave like a petulant child.

To be fair to THM, his forum absence wasn’t voluntary. His account went tits-up following a temporary ban and we couldn’t work out how to unlock it. There’s some weird quirk of the new forum which means this happens occasionally, I’m not sure why (and the admin tools are very different from previously which doesn’t help).

He’d probably have been back earlier, but the number of emails he sent us over time calling us liars and various other endearing comments meant that no-one was in a particular hurry to get around to investing any time into working out WTF was going on with it. The reason he’s back at all now is because I eventually managed to unpick it.

It really is just an unmitigated disaster.

The absolute **** state of this lot.

Brits could be free to eat tasty & cheaper Halloumi & Feta made in America, & sell excellent English sparkling Champagne in Asia & Americas from April, if EU & UK Govt don’t agree sensible non-“backstop” behind-the-border Irish solutions available, & FTA https://t.co/c6Xtx9jJo0

— Marcus Fysh #StayHomeSaveLives (@MarcusFysh) September 1, 2018

I look forward to French Cornish Pasties also.

the number of emails he sent us over time calling us liars and various other endearing comments meant that no-one was in a particular hurry to get around to investing any time into working out WTF was going on with it

Outstanding 😂

I never thought I’d see the day when someone sang the praises of american cheese.

Briexit?

EUdam?

Brits could be free to eat tasty & cheaper Halloumi & Feta made in America

From cows reared in enormous warehouses, spewing effluent.

UK farmers will be free to go out of business.

I never thought I’d see the day when someone sang the praises of american cheese.

I’m sure it depends on what you stand to gain from the situation. Not sure how else Brexit stacks up for people.

Outstanding indeed bob. An outstandingly privileged half-account. But there we go 😳

Outstanding indeed bob. An outstandingly privileged half-account. But there we go

If you’ve been misrepresented then you could easily prove it by publishing the relevant email exchanges.

Brexiters have been out this weekend trying to slag off chequers,

May has said definitely no second ref

Barnier forced to point out for the 1000th time in the last 2 years that 4 freedoms are indivisible…….

so that leaves no deal or Canada style FTA deal, but weve got 7 months to pull that off, & May seems determined to push her unworkable plan….

the brexiteers know that they will own the shitshow, but are desperately trying to pretend theyve got something better to offer…  

Brits could be free to eat tasty & cheaper Halloumi & Feta made in America says Marcus Fysh

From animals that are fed a grain, corn and soy based diet along with an ever increasing excessive use of antibiotics and growth hormones which is totally unnatural and leads to additional health problems. Tell you what fysh you obnoxious little ****stain i’ll place you in a pen where you cannot lie down nor turn around and never see the light of day whilst feeding you grain, soy, corn and high fructose corn syrup solution, perhaps i’ll inject you with totally unnecessary antibiotics and growth hormones till you become so bloated and put on so much weight that your legs buckle then once you have served your purpose i’ll attach a rope around your legs and drag you out of the pen and despatch you with a electric stun gun, or if you are lucky i’ll shoot a bolt through your brain stem to paralyse you before stringing you up and leeching the blood from your body as your heart continues to pump.

Actually that sounds like a damn fine punishment for the likes of Marcus Fysh, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove etc…etc.

 His account went tits-up following a temporary ban and we couldn’t work out how to unlock it. There’s some weird quirk of the new forum which means this happens occasionally, I’m not sure why.

Perhaps the servers achieved sentience over the summer holidays and took a quick look at the thread?

Is that the best a professional snapper can make Boris look for his column photograph? He looks like he’s about to keel over.

Boris certainly has the best sound bites – tanks and white flags fluttering. I’ll bet his cheerleaders are feeling excited this morning.

No plans I notice – maybe I missed that bit.

Tory SEL’s criticism of chequers plan is patriotic

EU criticism of chequers plan is theats and trying to punish us.

But tell you what borris come up with a better one.

No plans I notice – maybe I missed that bit.

We’ve been over this before.

The leavers are the big-idea, blue-sky thinking, big-picture kind of people.

It’s the remainers’ job to figure out all the details. The reason it’s all going to badly is because they’ve been failing to get on-board with the vision.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-officials-whitehall-department-no-deal-civil-servants-uk-eu-a8519361.html

50% staff turnover at DExEU in 2 years. I wonder if they aren’t grown up enough? Although given the average age in the dept is now 32 it might be the grow ups that are leaving. I wonder why?

I wonder if they aren’t grown up enough?

Some great, experienced, minds have risked careers to avoid being sucked into that non-department. I know someone who had to answer directly to Boris on a day to day basis, and even that was a price worth paying according to him.

No plans I notice

Obviously. But don’t dare to suggest that those non-existent plans don’t have the full, complete, decisive backing of the British public. We know what we voted for, and we haven’t changed our minds, and are still fully behind whatever it is that’s not in whichever non-plan your favourite political failure hasn’t drawn up.

Marcus as an English Fizz Producer I have to call you out on that. US requires agent importer/distributor who take your profit margin, 30 different state labelling regimes, customs bureaucracy & different state by state chemical tests for each shipment. It wont change.

— Gerard Fox????????EFTA4 ?? (@Fox4HailshamNT) September 1, 2018

‘Plans’, eh?

Heard Damian ‘Hard Drive’ Green on R4 this morning moaning that Michel Barnier, amongst others, didn’t have ‘a plan’…

WTF does Barnier need a plan for? Why doesn’t a high ranking government minister still not get that THE U.K. IS LEAVING THE EU, not the other way round?

Oh, and the Fat Buffoon in today’s Telegraph is couching the whole process as a ‘victory’ that needs to be ‘won’ because the EU is winning the ‘battle’ to which the U.K. has already ‘waved a white flag’.

There’s no hope for you I’m afraid. To quote Douglas Adams – they’re all ‘a bunch of useless bloody loonies’, seemingly still not out of nappies that they should have left behind fifty years or more ago.

Spreadsheet Phil is the only sensible voice amongst the lot of them, but that’s because he doesn’t see himself as some sort of puffed-up political rock star looking for glory…

I have an image of the EU negotiators just sitting there, face-palming and shaking their heads in bemused wonder at the ragbag of halfwits with who they are trying to work.

Some polling came out over the weekend. After brexit –

Majority in Scotland backs Indy

Majority in NI back a United Ireland.

At least I have a way out without having to move to Germany.