Read all of Chris Giles’ thread… those figures are for inreases above standard inflation, but not adjusted for the far higher medical costs inflation that the NHS is now experiencing. It also takes no account (because it can’t) of the extra inflation heading our way if the USA gets the huge increases in drug prices it is pushing for… a key factor in the “desperate times” trade deal we’ll be looking to make with USA ASAP.

Another Conservative talking straight…

As a GP, I‘m happy to see more money for our health & social care. We need to spend more as our population ages. But we must be honest about how we are going to pay. There is no evidence yet that there will be a “Brexit dividend” – so it’s tax rises, more borrowing or both

— Dr Phillip Lee (@DrPhillipLee) June 17, 2018

I will say again, that how MPs are handling Brexit has at times surprised me, both good and bad. Some MPs have come across generally as decent people who do mean good, even If I might not agree with their ideas, and others really do some across as self serving scum.

WM and the UK really needs major reform, that much is clear.

^We could start here…

At least none of the papers are hailing the brexit bonanza.

The mail is blaming the nhs for putting up middle class taxes.

Hopefully this has massively back fired on the soppy cow.

She does seem to be the High Priestess of bad political timing. Even the Leave side have not been pushing the ‘Brexit Dividend’ too hard of late.

If we have a recession she’d probably claim NHS spend rising as a proportion of GDP as some kind of policy triumph.

At least none of the papers are hailing the brexit bonanza

Unfortunately the Scottish press leapt upon it to declare it a benefit of being in the Union, praising the £2Bn Scotland would receive and completely ignoring the costs of Brexit.

At least none of the papers are hailing the brexit bonanza.

She does seem to be the High Priestess of bad political timing.

I think the most the right wing press have their knives out for her now.

I think the Mail yesterday had something on it. I just left a copy of The European on top of the pile.

Its a shame jambs isn’t on here, wonder what his take would be?

https/<span style=”font-size: 0.8rem;”>/twitter.com/SkyNewsPolitics/status/1008668128237113349?s=19</span>

Quietly, Michel Barnier is shooting down virtually every UK demand on crime co-operation post-Brexit. He's just said that because of UK red line on ECJ he sees it as impossible that we can remain part of the European Arrest Warrant. https://t.co/dEVIeZ3iBU

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) June 19, 2018

Taking back control, one relinquished benefit at a time…

Meh, that will be met in kind, even as a remainer, Barnier seems to be allowing the EU to spite themselves as well – as they will simply lose access to five eeye intelligence.

Putin must be laughing his arse off. His investment in the campaign was certainly money well spent.

The EU will simply ask for a fee for the UK government join all those agencies.

That Brexit divident is being split quite a lot of ways !

as they will simply lose access to five eeye intelligence

fakenews

Snowden leaks revealved that the USA already share with most European countries individually via the NSAs Foreign Affairs Directorate

Still, Brexit is a massive win for Putin,

Irony is, its Mays foolish red lines & Tory hard brexit that is making us a 3rd country & forcing us onto the back foot here.

The points about data protection & ECJ jurisdiction are the reason that the UK have been shut out of big pan-european drug trials

Its a big headache for pharma & research & exactly what David Davis said wouldnt happen is happening 🙁

Its a big headache for pharma & research & exactly what David Davis said wouldnt happen is happening .

At least he consistent there

Its a big headache for pharma

Pharma usually has a remedy for headaches

As I’m sat in a posh hotel I get to read the Torygraph and get the world as seen through the prism of right wing nut jobs.

They’re calling for the establishment, post-Brexit, of ‘Free Ports’. As anyone who’s read No Logo knows, in places like Myanmar they refer to them as ‘Export Processing Zones’, but most people just refer to them as what they are….

Sweatshops

What the Brexiteers really want. What they’ve always wanted. Worth noting where they’re to be set up…. Liverpool, Hull and Belfast. Not Surrey then?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2018/06/18/free-ports-can-raise-us-mire-brexit/

Funny how the Brexiteers want to erode employment rights even further isn’t it?

fakenews
Snowden leaks revealved that the USA already share with most European countries individually via the NSAs Foreign Affairs Directorate

Do you really think that will continue? Trump will torch Nato next.

Do you really think that will continue? Trump will torch Nato next.

His loss, I expect the restraints to be put in before he does that.

yeah I agree

Putin looks more like Trumps puppet master everyday!

a small investment in disrupting democracy here & in america has paid off handsomely for putin

I really can’t see why Corbyn isn’t voting to protect worker’s rights.

Because he’s an idiot, basically, who is so entrenched in his anti-EU rhetoric than he can’t see what’s going on right in front of him.

He’s whipping his MP’s to facilitate setting this country up as a sweatshop tax haven through his pig-headed intransigence, and refusal to update his political opinions from1973

I really can’t see why Corbyn isn’t voting to protect worker’s rights.

Simple, he’s a protest politician who has no interest in power so he’s letting the Tories run wild so he can shout on about what a shame it is, typical tories etc without actually doing anything about it.

Let the right wing nutters make everyone worse off so he can organise… a march or something.

GCHQ just weighed in, seems the EU relies on more than just the yanks.

On the topic of Corbyn, bring back Blair ffs – even if he is a war criminal.

I really can’t see why Corbyn isn’t voting to protect worker’s rights.

Because he dreams of a socialist utopia, and to be fair there are good arguments for bringing utilities and railways under public ownership. What he seems to struggle to grasp is that the reality is handing over power to extreme right wing Chicago school economics. He is looking at the situation idealistically rather than allowing pragmatism to dictate his actions.

GCHQ just weighed in, seems the EU relies on more than just the yanks.

I think he has already explained to the PM that she needs to get her act together. The UK is placing unrealistic demands on the EU.

On the topic of Corbyn, bring back Blair ffs – even if he is a war criminal.

No thanks. If we’re having Thatcherites, we might as well have Thatcher herself than a fraud magnitudes greater than Corbyn.

I was flicking through the papers in the cafe the other day and I think it was the express that had a editorial on Corbyn.

The picture they used was one of him looking statesmanlike rather than one of him murdering a baby.

The headline said “is this the man to save brexit?”

When the express start liking you there is a real problem.

The express has a headline today about us having to retire >70 thanks in part to inflation, 🤔🤔 wonder what’s caused that.

Meanwhile
Oh look another sector already being damaged by brexit.
Leavers really do want to turn back the clock to the 70s, power cuts & all !

No Brexit for energy as UK set to draw more power from EU

Brexit as an issue in itself is virtually dead within the Tory Party, it’s now just a simple battle for survival and more importantly stay intact.

Mrs May will not want to be the one in history that destroyed the Party and sent them into the political wilderness. I have said it before on here the old Tory faithful (elected and members) are dying out and they will not allow the younger Tories to present a case that will win them votes.

All ethics and trust has been  completely destroyed internally in both Brexit and remain camps. To say this is politics of desperation is a mild understatement. We should not forget this is a political civil war inside the Tories and it is rare in a civil war for the old guard to win.

Meanwhile we wander aimlessly around and the EU retains the power to say “non”

going well I see

It’s all going to shit. Meanwhile the pro-EU Tory MPs are doing what they’ve always done – compromise their principles for the sake of party unity. They’ve done this plenty of times and Grieve et al’s actions should come as no surprise.

I’m beginning to think that the best thing to happen is for the UK to be faced with “No deal” and be given a chance to rethink.

look around,

were not smart enough to rethink it

That front page couldn’t sum it up any better if it tried:

“Thousands of high tech jobs about to be lost, but just look at the opportunities in the fruit picking sector”

FML

Exactly, when did fruit picking become a full time job.  Used to be done by students but even they don’t want to do it now and it is left for the only people that want to do it (immigrants).  Still, it will be much better when it has all settled and the country has recovered after Brexit (I would guess that will be around 20-30 years time)

We’ve only had powered flight for little over a hundred years.

We managed to make the greatest empire the world has ever seen without planes.

We can do it again.

Let the lion roar.

To early for full on irony isn’t it?