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  • Endura MT500
  • hainman
    Free Member

    Looking for a pair of waterproof trousers that actually keep me dry!!
    I don’t sweat much so not really an issue this way,But having used the Fox 3L trousers I feel they are poor,always end up soaked at the end of rides and it’s not going to get any dryer anytime soon
    Are the MT500 one of the best around??
    Don’t have the cash to spend on 7Mesh
    So the 500’s are at the top of my purchase budget
    Cheers

    nickc
    Full Member

    I have the Decathalon ones, and they’re as waterproof as I need, and they’re £40.00.

    These ones 

    dumbbot
    Free Member

    I can’t really help with the MT500 as Endura sizing doesn’t work for me. But if it’s any consolation I’ve just sent back the 7mesh pants after trying them on… there is little room in the legs with pads on, and due to the Goretex material lack of mechanical stretch not enough room in the crotch. I’m not a big chap either.

    jaymcjayface
    Free Member

    Endura stuff has always been excellent for me….. Until my most recent purchases.

    I bought a pair of gloves and the stitching around the fingers started to come apart after just 2 rides. At the same time, I bought a pair of trousers (not MT500) and the zips on all pockets have all broken. Some overshoes I bought (MT500) are just falling apart after less than 6 months.

    I do have a pair of MT500 shorts which have always been good but these were bought a couple of years ago.

    I know this doesn’t really answer your question I just thought I’d mention the issues with quality I’ve had with things I’ve bought in the last 6 months.

    tonyg2003
    Full Member

    The MT500 trousers are excellent when it comes to keeping you dry. I use them when its bucketing down (like last Sunday) but I also have the Decathlon £40 (or they were in 2019) trousers which I use when its muddy buy not really raining hard. They do a great job of keeping the crap off your legs.

    mashr
    Full Member

    nickc
    Full Member
    I have the Decathalon ones, and they’re as waterproof as I need, and they’re £40.00.

    These ones

    Description isn’t the clearest, but aren’t they just a DWR item?

    dyna-ti
    Full Member

    Not sure about the Decathlon at 40 quid, might be the £20 versions ive got.

    https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/100-city-cycling-rain-overtrousers-black/_/R-p-169380?mc=8402040&c=BLACK

    Cheap, but the velcro means you can get them in tight enough so you dont get caught up in the chain.

    stevie750
    Full Member

    royal storm on sale at the moment
    storm

    I have a pair and I like them

    luket
    Full Member

    I’ve also got MT500s and some of the £40 decathlon mtb trousers (not those overtrousers). As above, MT500s in proper shitty weather, but also just in the cold. The decathlon ones are a different thing – lighter, not Waterproofs. The MT500s are a fairly heavyweight waterproof. As is the corresponding jacket.

    I like my MT500 trousers and jacket for what they are.

    I also have “MT500 Spray” shorts both new and a couple of years old. They’re a much lighter sort of thing, with decent waterproofing for something that’s not really aimed at winter. The old ones erring more on the waterproofing side, the new ones more on the light shorts side. They do trousers with the same name, although I’ve not seen them in the flesh.

    This time of year I alternate MT500 trousers with these shorts. Shorts just enough to keep me dry if it’s not actually raining.

    oldfart
    Full Member

    Just a word of caution with the sizing of the Royal Storm , I’m a medium in everything else but their medium I struggled to get up past my hips and I’m not the largest bloke out there . I’ve just bought a pair of Troy Lee Resist trousers they are normally the same price as the MT500s at £160 but Sorted Race Gear have them on offer for £99 at the moment.

    monkeyboyjc
    Full Member

    The mt500 thermal trousers are absolutely brilliant – kept me warm and dry all last winter.

    hainman
    Free Member

    I’ve had the RR storms
    Tape on the Arse came away quite quickly
    Also just warrantied the Fox ranger 3L
    Best fitting I’ve had was the Raceface Agent but they’re old and hard to find
    Just fancied the MT500 as there quoting 20.000 which is double what most brands have for their trousers

    z1ppy
    Free Member

    Those Royal Racing Storm pant, look very much like Madison DTE 3 Layer trousers. Which can be found discounted for a very similar price. Though I found the Madisons a little short, and maybe my trail skin pads would fit underneath, but there not a lot of space

    highlandman
    Free Member

    I’ve only tried the newest MT500 waterproofs in the shorts, not trousers; these coped very well with a wet and windy 6-7C ride around Ben Attow in Kintail a couple of weeks ago. They’re as long as 3/4rs from a few years ago and worn over kneepads, I’d reckon provide close to trouser levels of comfort.
    I’m also a fan of their MT500 Freezing Point breeks, those were a superb find last winter and are my frosty/snowy day favourite when conditions get properly challenging.

    joebristol
    Full Member

    @nickc how is the sizing on the decathlon trousers?

    Just about to return both medium and large sizes of the Royal Racing storm trousers sadly. I like the look and feel of them but they’re both too tight. Yet I’m fine on Fox 32” waist water shorts and large endura humvee shorts (the 1st version). I would imagine the xl is going to be too long in the legs. Annoying!

    I do have some Large endura Singletrack 1 trousers to use – but need the legs length shortened a bit before I can use them. I don’t think the legs are as tapered as would be ideal round the ankles but we’ll see how we go on them.

    I’ve heard fairly good things about decathlon trousers but are they true to size?

    oldfart
    Full Member

    I seem to recall a recent review on the MT500s saying that since Endura swapped to a more sustainable Bluesign manufacturing process they weren’t as waterproof. When they contacted Endura they admitted that could be the case . I wanted to try Dirtlej but they are really expensive and hard to find , I’ve been a Madison fan for some time but was disappointed how quickly the DTEs wetted out 😞

    hainman
    Free Member

    @joebristol man how can you be on 32” fox and Large Humvee
    I’m 32/34 Fox Medium Humvee and was Medium on the RR storms
    Just found the tape came off on the ass section

    joebristol
    Full Member

    Not a clue – maybe I’m a funny body shape?

    5’9 tall, 32” leg in most trousers, around a 33” waist. 76kgs. I do have quite a fat arse though.

    bikesandboots
    Full Member

    I’m getting on fine with my Fox 3L, although they’ve been out fewer than 20 times. Have yours been poor from new?

    hainman
    Free Member

    @bikesandboots aye mine been poor from day 1
    Arse is always soaked

    fatbikeandcoffee
    Full Member

    +1 for the mention if the Troy Lee Resist, only 10k 10k but have decent vents which are also watertight when shut.

    Around £90 at your preferred outlet, which doesn’t take the rrp piss.

    James

    yoshimi
    Full Member

    Around £90 at your preferred outlet, which doesn’t take the rrp piss.

    Where? thanks

    fatbikeandcoffee
    Full Member

    I got mine at Merlin and they sized accurately for me.

    bikesandboots
    Full Member

    aye mine been poor from day 1
    Arse is always soaked

    I do run a big rear mudguard so that’s probably why.

    oldfart
    Full Member

    fatbikeandcoffee
    Merlin only have 40 waist left Sorted Racegear have all sizes at £99

    rollindoughnut
    Free Member

    My Endura jacket was brilliant whilst the dwr held out, which was for about 10 wet rides.
    Beautifully thought out and constructed jacket but completely useless as a waterproof now.

    minus
    Free Member

    Have the mt500 waterproofs from 2020. I really like them as they are very lightweight compared to most proper waterproof trousers (and even the mt500 spray trousers) so they aren’t too warm pedalling up steep hills unless it’s above about 10C. The water repellant coating isn’t great however, even when new they never really beaded and they don’t take nikwax well. Despite this they still seem to keep me dry.

    mudfish
    Full Member

    Madison DTE. Size up. Solid waterproofs.
    Great short version too. Styled like these https://www.cyclesolutions.co.uk/clothing/lower-body/madison-dte-waterproof-baggy-shorts–china-blue__7787?currency=GBP&chosenAttribute=CL03517&gclid=Cj0KCQiA37KbBhDgARIsAIzce14AuACoAHDlV3iEzcI7kZpEKaEe1nFVeZCVRSpaNVFeLVlSiAcMY-QaAjdEEALw_wcB

    Great with sealskinz and kneepads. Lot more breathable than the full trousers.

    coconut
    Free Member

    How do the Madison DTE size up ? The chart puts me in large (189cm, 32inch waist), more tempted by the medium as I want a fitted trouser.

    hainman
    Free Member

    @coconut that’s weird
    I looked on the website for sizing and 32/34 was Medium
    I’m sure my old Madison waterproof shorts were medium too


    @mudfish
    I never realised the DTE trousers were 20,000 waterproof/breathable
    Might be worth a punt

    mudfish
    Full Member

    I had to get XL trousers, the L shorts are OK for me (too big really) but the pants had to be X large to fit kneepads loosely to allow pedalling. Like I wrote, mine are the older 2 colour ones, no idea on the current crop. Pedal a Bike Away at Cammop had stock a while back, it you’re near you could try on, IF they still have them.

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