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  • joolsburger
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    I always thought this stuff was the bees knees but I’ve had the arse out of some shorts in 8 rides and some gloves have basically fallen apart in a few rides. I am alone in this or is their quality slipping?

    loddrik
    Member

    My hummvees have been with me for nearly 4 years and have only just split. Likewise some Strike winter gloves. Can’t praise Endura’s stuff high enough.

    KINGTUT
    Member

    Always been very hit and miss, generally miss.

    Premier Icon nickc
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    I think the stuff that’s made in the UK is generally pretty well made. The stuff (lower priced) form overseas is made ‘to a price point’ if you see what I mean, and as KINGTUT has already suggested, it can be a bit of a lottery

    Premier Icon gonetothehills
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    Just do a quick search on here – plenty of history on it. I’ve had various issues with them in the past – the kit’s fundamentally very good, but often really flawed.

    In spite of this, I seem to have an awful lot of their clobber – overshoes, baa baa socks, leggings, shorts, merino base layers, headbands, gloves…

    Overshoes: warm, dry, fall apart afer a winter, so it’s £25 / winter for them
    Socks: seem fine so far…
    Leggings: comfy, warm, great reflective bits, but the narrowest ankles (and corresponding zips) you’ve ever seen. They wouldn’t look out of place on a kid!
    Shorts – Singletrack ones were amazing, ’til the belt / fastener broke, replaced under warranty (except the sizing changed, so they went back for a refund eventually). Current Zymes are great too – except the popper doesn’t stay done up (no funny comments please) it’s just not strong enough.
    Merino base layers – spot on, my absolute favourite – good simple clothing that just works
    Headband – comfy, except it’s so noisy under a helmet that it’s probably not that safe if you’re not careful. The noise of the outer fabric rubbing against the helmet drowns out anything else you can hear…
    Gloves – warm, dry, but flawed by the insides moving separately to the outers, the velcro tab being almost unusable when you’ve got gloves on (ie, always) and the pads are in the wrong place.

    Such a shame, as it’s so nearly there…

    jad
    Member

    Utterly rubbish. More fashion than function.

    I’ll never buy another piece of Endura gear again.

    mosschops
    Member

    hmmmm

    mixed from me – had some 3/4 ad full bibs from 4 years ago Apart from the logos cracking and looking shoddy, they still work

    Have invested in a Stealth jacket this winter – anyone had any issues with theirs? Was hoping it would last a few seasons!

    Have got some new waterproof gloves – Strike, will be getting a test tomorrow!

    funnily enough my baa baa is a bit itchy prefer my icebreaker merino

    Happy to receive recommendations of better brands…

    MC

    andy7t2
    Member

    had loads of endura stuff waterproof gloves jackets single track trousers huvee 3/4 shorts tops and never had a problem with any of their stuff. Jacket and gloves in their 3rd season and still going strong, shorts have lasted 3 seasons riding every week and the trousers are over a year old and still in good nick

    jimithenomad
    Member

    had a pair of therma-stat bib longs for years and despite a growing waistline they are stiil holding out ok and are exceptionally warm on those really cold days. They dont make these anymore though so the newer stuff might be hit and miss , but the other stuff i have , humvee shorts, singletrack trousers, and a few clickfast liners are all still good too, so more hit than miss for me.

    Premier Icon neil853
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    strike gloves are rubbish, I’m on my second pair in 18 months. Had some superlight waterproof shorts rip within two rides but apart from that all the products have been spot in. All the merino gear is brilliant! I wear their lycra shorts and tights and they’ve all been fine. Their customer service has been excellent too, just stay away from those gloves 🙂

    jordie
    Member

    the gloves are surrender monkeys
    i like there 260 bib shorts but they have chopped a bit from the front of them which is now borderline being to low.There was nothing wrong with the old style

    neninja
    Member

    MT500 baggies have come apart at the crotch just below the fly – looks like poor stitching and the material on the rear waterproof panel is delaminating.
    Hummvee jersey has some stitching come apart and the shoulder grips have delaminated from the fabric.
    The only Endura item I bought this year still going is a pair of Hummvee shorts – is it only a matter of time?
    I’ll be buying from other brands in future.

    Waderider
    Member

    I’ve had years of trouble free service from Endura kit.

    This’ll be another polarised good and bad thread then. Bloody internet.

    santacrews
    Member

    Ive been using ENDURA for some time now and had no trouble until recently,

    HUMVEES ! worn thro stitching in the seat area,
    MT500 Jersey ! Stitching / seams wearing after only 4 rides !

    slowjo
    Member

    I have had years of trouble free service from everything I have ever had from Endura.

    Keva
    Member

    never had a problem with any of it, got some some shorts which are years old that I still wear.

    I wonder if the ones who complain about stitching etc falling apart boil wash the crap out of it ? I never wash any of my clothes hotter than 50.

    Kev

    woffle
    Member

    I like their stuff, I just don’t expect it to last very long. For example all my shorts from them have tended to split after a few months use – more hassle returning them than 5 minutes with the sewing machine so have always mended myself. They’re still going mind you, just with a little ‘help’…

    neninja
    Member

    No boil washes here – 30 or 40 delicates washes as I wash my merino stuff with the shorts etc.

    How would a hot wash make stitching fall apart anyway?

    forgotmename
    Member

    Generally good kit, and good customer service, quick turnaround on replacement bits, gloves not the best tho, try specialized gloves they are good.

    stumpynya12
    Member

    Its can be very hit and miss quality/longevity wise but at least you don’t look like every other mtber in the car park when you wear it ? 😉

    joolsburger
    Member

    Mine are the singletrack shorts and the arse seams have completely fallen apart I’ve only worn them around 10 times max and wash on 30 deg. I think they wore through the stitching in the mud a few weeks back. Nothing worse than really needing to get over the back and getting the saddle and shorts tangled up.. I had to bag the shorts up and ride in my bibs for much of yesterday, not a good look.

    santacrews
    Member

    The arse fell thro on my Hummers after about 12 rides !
    I put the abrasion & Grit down to wearing the stitching thro ! It just disentegrated……………..
    I cant imagine what the wear rate must be like in the winter as i only wore these in the Summer months

    I cant see how hot water would disolve stitching ?
    I seem to remember Kevlar being used as thread in some of their shorts years back ?
    And as for the MT500 Jersey ! I wore it 4 times in 1 week and didnt wash it in that time when i did look at it the Jersey looked brand new apart from the fraying stitching where the camelback straps run ?
    Surely the designers know that riders wear camelbacks and the stitching in these areas need support !

    I think i will use GORE kit in future it seems to last longer ?

    MrTall
    Member

    I just sent back some liner shorts as the stitching fell apart after only a handful of uses (i had 2 art the same time, the other has lasted pretty well for a few years now) and despite the fact i left it in a drawer for over a year before getting around to sending it, they just replaced it with a brand new one no questions asked.

    Apart from that one incident, i’ve been happy with all of their stuff.

    Premier Icon Speshpaul
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    I think endura are stuck really the big selling point is that thay make gaer here in the UK. We like that but we also want gear for peanuts, the stuff thats made in the far east.
    Endure try to do a bit of both, but at the moment the lower end is bringing there name down.
    I’ve had lots of endura gear over the years, its what i rate everything else against. I have had issues with high end gear from them, but its been back by that high end investment. So its been repaired or exchanged very quickly with no fuss. So i’ve brought from them again knowing they will stand by their gear.
    The answer to their problem mmmmm tricky.

    tf
    Member

    Most of my cycle wear is made by Endura, never had any bother until I bought a MT500 burner jacket a year ago; all of the seam tape came off in 9 moths of moderate use (cared for per instructions, together with Edura Venturi trousers that, even though lot older, are still going strong). Endura would not deal with the issue directly (so much for their packaging saying otherwise), and it took 6 weeks to sort out via UKBikestore — it seems like the quality has gone down the pan in the last year or two, and not just on the cheap stuff.

    In the past Endura would have been the first make I would have considered when looking for cycle wear, but my confidence in the brand has taken big knock in the last year.

    Premier Icon Tiger6791
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    Always like their gear, just got some Humvee 3/4 and the liner came pre split!

    So quality control isn’t great either.

    They sorted me out warranty wise so I still buy the gear but it has gone downhill.

    Premier Icon Lummox
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    Just returned a pair of venturi 2 trousers, worn maybe 5-6 times max, both welded seams in the hip pockets have failed. Good job i never used them or whatever i put in them would be in my shoes.

    Have also repaired the croth and arse seams on some Singletrack shorts, the remainder of the shorts are rock solis though despite plenty of crashes.

    That said my hummvies, Baa baa top, windchill jacket, socks and dextor gloves have all done me sterling service.

    My altura react jacket has been the biggest let down though, delaminating and soaking through very early on in it’s life, if i hadn’t crashed in it that would certainly have been returned.

    Premier Icon Sanny
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    My wife had three brand new pairs of longs returned to Endura before they were even worn – stitching in either the wrong place or completely absent leaving straight from the factory holes down the side. She also had a pair of 3/4s develop a big hole between the chamois and the outer fabric in one ride in dry conditions on the road. My Strike Gloves have been returned twice due to them soaking through at the fingertips in less than 5 minutes of heavy rain. Squeezing the brakes forced water in at the fingertips. I gave up on them in the end. I also had a pair of Endura outer shorts shrink despite only ever being washed at 30 degrees.

    I would really like to continue to support a Scottish based firm but the quality control sadly isn’t good enough in my experience. 🙁

    Premier Icon Sanny
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    Oh and the velcro flap on two pairs of overshoes came away in my hand while the zip failed on one of them after only a handful of rides. I also had a pair of liner shorts replaced under warranty where the large replacement was either mislabelled or measured in action man sizing. Finally, the zipper came away on a pair of leg warmers after only a few rides. Come to think of it, I’ve only found their knee warmers to be trouble free but then, how hard is it to get a tube of lycra right? 😕

    slowjo
    Member

    Does anyone from Endura come on here? Perhaps they should be prompted to if anyone knows them. It would be useful if we could get feedback like we used to from the chap at CRC a few years back.

    Premier Icon Onzadog
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    Sent a jacket back for a repair in august. The damage was my fault, but I’ve still not had the jacket back. I’ve got loads of mt500 shorts and most seem to be coming unstiched. Great stuff when it works, it just doesn’t work enough.

    santacrews
    Member

    Good shout slowjo

    I,m sure that ENDURA must be aware of their shortcommings judging by the ammount of replacement kit sent out from this site alone !

    I had reservations on the quality from my own experience however i wasnt aware that it was as widespread ?

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    Every single garment I’ve had from Endura has had a problem, apart from my wife’s 3/4 baggies which I pinched. 😳

    Stitching comes apart on all their jerseys, the baabaa tops develop random holes in places where they shouldn’t wear, zips break. All within a few rides.

    A recent pair of Zyme shorts summed it up – it was my fault that I bought a size too large so they’re rather loose around the waist, but the waist puller-inners (?) don’t work at all and the popper bursts open when I bend over. Rubbish.

    I’ve had more problems with Endura clothing than with any other brand, and have stopped buying it however attractive the price looks.

    Keva – Member

    I wonder if the ones who complain about stitching etc falling apart boil wash the crap out of it ? I never wash any of my clothes hotter than 50.

    Kev

    Or maybe those of us complaining use our bikes (and therefore kit) through the worst of the winter and expect clothing to last more than a few rides. Some of my Endura stuff didn’t even wait until I got on the bike before falling apart. 🙄

    jimbmcf
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    Just to volunter for a beating, I work at Endura and varuous people here do read forums.
    Truth is that, like all technical clothing brands, we have failures but we do sell more than a million pieces of clothing a year and the return level is a fraction of a percent.
    The returns level, as a percentage, has been continually falling for over a decade and we have put way more resource into improving quality in the last 5 years than ever before – it is improving rather than getting worse but we still have failures and if we have someobody who has had multiple items fail then its understandable that they think this must be what everyone is finding.
    And inevitably there is less comment from the silent masses that don’t have any issues with their kit.
    At the end of the day these items are made by hand and it is very difficult to eliminate QC issues entirely. What we try to do is to keep getting better and to put our hand up and replace product if it is faulty or has failed prematurely which I think we are pretty reasonable at on the whole.
    Other side points; we have similar returns levels from in-house production as we do with Far East production so there isn’t any bias between the two (they both follow the same procedures).
    We haven’t downspec’d any materials on Hummvees, Singletracks or Thermolite as has been suggested on forums in the past (still Cordura from same suppliers, still Italian Thermolite from same mill as a decade ago etc) and our gloves are made in the same factory as Specialized and to the same standards.
    People here are accutely aware that QC is a big deal and customers rightly expect that their kit shouldn’t fail even when it’s given a beating so we’re not relaxed when we get failures (and failures are expensive as well so trying to cut corners doesn’t generally save money in the end and isn’t how we approach it).
    For those who have had issues then we do, of course, apologise for falling short of the mark but at the same time it wouldn’t be fair to say that quality is getting worse overall as it has is in fact been continually getting better for several years now and we are doing more and investing more than ever before to make it better in the future. That said, I know that if someone has had a bad experience lately then it’s a reasonable thing to think that everyone else is experiencing the same thing…

    Reedy
    Member

    Have had issues with two pairs of shorts with weak waist press studs which is fairly hopeless. Have had to add buttons as I have had enough and replacements not much better. Problem is when you get caught up with clickfast system.

    Will not buy shorts again.

    Premier Icon iainc
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    Jim – good post. informative and to the point. Well done you.

    cheers

    mosschops
    Member

    Impressed by that post from Jim, I’ve got mostly Endura gear Was fully waterproof today in a 30 min commute in very heavy rain -Stealth jacket Thermalite overshoes and gridlock trousers oh and my strike gloves worked impeccably

    Noticed no one has recommended any thing else

    MC

    dazzlingboy
    Member

    Fair play to Jim for coming on and posting. I’ve a 4 tear old venturi jacket which is an awesome piece of kit. Humvee shorts are a year old and going strong but two pairs or winter gloves ( can’t remember model names) are both at the bottom of the gear box. Poor bulky design and liners that come adrift from the outers. Hit and miss as others have said.

    coastkid
    Member

    Thats good company feedback of you Jim to come on here…
    i have alot on Endura kit and havent returned anything yet though when stuff has fallen to bits i usually feel its served its lifespan…
    my only gripe is stitching sometimes…
    To make clothing for scotlands weather climate that lasts is a tough call and there is alot of other- more expensive companies which fail to make the grade…

    Premier Icon StefMcDef
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    I like all my Endura stuff. Lasts for years. Invariably well tailored, too. Used to have crappy zips but seems to have improved in recent years.

    The one time I had something fail, a Munro waterproof jacket from which the seams fell apart, I sent it back and was sent a new one in the post the same week. Still got it six years down the line and it outperforms dearer stuff from supposedly more prestigious brands.

    Just saw the point above about baa-baa stuff developing random holes – mine did, too, but I put that down to riding past brambles at speed. My forearms developed random holes from that as well.

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