- Employment scheme for bankers…
Might work, they will be good at maths. In need of a job and possibly have children so they might know how to work with kids.
Would you rather have someone that went to a private school with 4 A levels and a degree who knows their stuff or someone with bad A levels and a bad degree teaching your kids?
It would be good for employment too. Only problem is when banking picks up they will all go back.Posted 9 years agojova54Member
I was thinking the same thing as matt_outandabout.
Most of these people have been nowhere near kids since they were at school and working in a merchant bank does not give you the skills you need to teach.
I have two daughters and I’m a qualified trainer, but I wouldn’t imagine that I could teach which is a different skill altogrether.
My youngest daughter is in her NQT year as a primary school teacher having qualified in the summer. As part of her teacher training she spent a total of 4 months in the classroom doing teaching practice. Quite how the government thinks they can turn ex-bankers/engineers/builders etc into qualified teachers in 6 months I don’t know.Posted 9 years agoaPMember
I must agree I’m not entirely convinced that employing MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE to teach (in 6 months) is such a great idea, and as we all know – as soon as its business as normal they’ll be back licking the cream off my pension fund again.Posted 9 years ago
Anyway wasn’t the mantra in the city (deliberate lower case) “Those who can do, those who can’t teach”?
Actually, thinking about it, on those terms they’ll be great.thisisnotaspoonMember
woldn’t knock the engineering industry, we’re benifiting from all the banking fiasco. All the engineering grads who would have gone off chaseing cash in the city are applying for engineerig jobs thus we’re already recruiting higher quality than last year (i was bottom of the class lat year 🙂 )
And the freefalling pound is aking us look cheep 🙂Posted 9 years agojova54Member
So they won’t be giving them aptitude tests then ?
Probably will, but the government’s attitude appears to be that there is source of potential teachers because they must be desperate to get jobs rather than investing the money where it will do the best in the long run.
Agree with aP about them all running back to the city when the good times roll again, which they will, and then we’ll be short of teachers again because we did it the wrong way round.
woldn’t knock the engineering industry,
I wasn’t having a pop at engineers, sorry if it appeared so, but I have severe reservations about the governments second knee-jerk announcement in 24 hours after the fiasco on Monday with their new plans for dealing with violence towards women.Posted 9 years agoportercloughMember
Firstly, I don’t see why you can’t take a graduate with some real world experience and train them up to be a teacher in 6 months instead of expecting them to go back to uni for a whole year on a PGCE (a fair amount of which is spent on teaching practice anyway). It would be best if they got people into teaching who wanted to teach, but I don’t see any reason to believe that the majority of people who go onto do PGCEs straight after their degrees are any more likely to be keen on teaching, rather than just having not much idea what else to do after their degree.
Secondly, I doubt very much that the senior managers ar RBS, or for that matter Gordon Brown and Ed Balls, will be the ones that this will be applying for teacher training.
Thirdly, of course any announcement by this government at this stage of its death throes needs to be taken with plenty of salt – they have a history of re-announcing things that are happening already.Posted 9 years ago
I doubt very much that the senior managers ar RBS or for that matter Gordon Brown and Ed Balls, will be the ones that this will be applying for teacher training.
Very true. I fail to understand why someone who has been made redundant from the banking and IT sectors, will automatically make bad teachers because a bank which they might have worked for, failed commercially. I also can’t quite grasp why you would have to be really thick to believe that they might make good teachers – specially in subjects where there is a desperate shortage 😕Posted 9 years agodjgloverMember
The banks may have failed, but there will still be a lot of people looking to get into teaching that have experience of real business that most career teachers simply do not and therefore have something different to offer.
But it works both ways, I have worked with 3 ex teachers in my current job over the last decade and all of them have gone on to be successful in what they chose to do. One is now a management consultant.Posted 9 years agohungry monkeyMember
my best teacher at school, and my favourite lecturer at uni have both worked for a considerable amount of time in the city. both teach management/economics type things. the school one was in her first year of teaching, and was VERY good at it. the lecturer at uni has her fingers in many pies, and so ahs very very very current knowledge on the subject (particularly concerning the environment and business).
i reckon the right ones could make very good teachers.Posted 9 years agokevonakonaMember
Doesn’t alter the fact that its a stop gap for all concerned, gov and soon to be ex-bankers. we have seen a lot more paople contacting us to “get a taste of teaching and teh classroom” or the past few months. “No i’ve thought hard about it for the past few months”, “oh really what do you do now?”, “well i was in marketing but i’m being made redundant”, “really? Next!”Posted 9 years ago
I really don’t want people slinking into my profession with minimal training because the money chasing has dried up and it’s percieved as safe. A lot of those undergoing teacher training pull out in the teaching practice stage (and in scotland a number pull out in the probationar stage). It would be unfair to all those going through training to run a system for some “professionals” which allows them to shortcut the long standing system.portercloughMember
With the attitude shown by some teachers on this thread, it’s a wonder any normal person would want to go and work with such people.
I mean, it’s clearly obvious that everyone who has worked in any other job than teaching (imagine being in IT for a bank, how strange to be such a capitalist running dog). Also it’s obvious that a motivated person can’t possibly do in 6 months what a student who wanted an extra year at uni can manage in 12 months. And of course subject knowledge and life experience and experience of the wider world of work are all pointless.
Hmmm.Posted 9 years agoIanMunroMember
<snip> And of course subject knowledge and life experience and experience of the wider world of work are all pointless.
Why just limit this policy to teaching profession, why not cut civil engineering courses in half for the newly redundant, or medical training (we always need new doctors, and an accountant’s going to have a lot more life skills than a wet behind the ears student)Posted 9 years agoaPMember
Its quite interesting how many people have such little regard for teachers and teaching.
I still believe that all of these remarkable ex City workers will show just how good they are, right up until the point at which they can go back and work in the City. I’m not quite sure that being a rocket scientist in a back room for a trader is quitePosted 9 years ago
subject knowledge and life experience and experience of the wider world of work
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