- Employee car damaged. Do we cough up?
One of our employees had their car damaged in our car park. To cut a long story short, we had a trainee fork lift trunk driver collide with a her car. There is a large sign in the car park stating that employee's park at their own risk etc. Question is, are we, the employers still liable to pay for the damages? We've had quotes of £500 for the repairs to her car, which is basically a new headlight and a bumper respray.Posted 10 years agoPeterPoddyMember
Imagine if it was your car……Posted 10 years agoSmeeMember
Yes. Disclaimers arent worth shit if someone has been negligent…Posted 10 years agothe-muffin-manSubscriber
Morally you should pay up.Posted 10 years agodooosukMember
I wouldn't want to work for your company if you're letting trainee forklift truck drivers practice in your carpark.
If you don't pay you'll alienate her and probably other employees.Posted 10 years agoneilsonwheelsMember
Don't be such a tight ass ffs. Can't believe the question has been asked.!Posted 10 years ago
tight get. cough upPosted 10 years agopiedi di formaggioMember
Yes, you pay. Disclaimers aside you (the company) have been negligentPosted 10 years agoBrownSubscriber
How much do you want her to stay at your company?Posted 10 years agomtbfixSubscriber
Morally you should pay up.
+1Posted 10 years agoclubberMember
I think you should pay. Aside from the legalities and morality of it, the message being sent out to your employees if you try and wriggle out of it is that you don't give a s**t about them and that is arguably likely to cost a lot more than £500 in the long run as people remember that sort of thing.
I'd echo the message about letting trainee drivers loose near people's cars though…Posted 10 years agoBigJohnSubscriber
Yes, I think it's clear cut. You should repair her car. And learn not to put an apostrophe to signify a plural.Posted 10 years agosimon1975Subscriber
The alternative is to let her insurer chase your insurer, in which case you'll still pay!Posted 10 years agoskiMember
What about replacing the sign in the car park for a Job vacancy for a forklift driver?
😉Posted 10 years ago
The sign is just stating that you're offering no special protection or care for people who park there, so if a client's or employee's car was burgled or vandalised by a third party you've made no special promise to keep it safe. Unlike if it was stated to be a secure/guarded and parking there came with an assurance.
But it was your company's forklift and your company's employee/trainee driving it so of course the company is liable, you'll be liable for anything you damage. Your public liability would cover it wouldn't it?Posted 10 years agomidlifecrashesSubscriber
No question, and not just handing over cash either, unless that's specifically what she wants. Get her a hire car, organise collection and repair of hers, together with a valet and a big bunch of flowers. In the meantime get your finger out and sort your health and safety out before someone gets killed.Posted 10 years agocoffeekingMember
Can't believe anyone is actually asking this question – talk about trying to wriggle out of things. Training drivers in the car park without decent barriers/space? Hoping you can get away with damaging property because you've stuck a disclaimer up – what sort of a company is this?Posted 10 years agocarbon337Member
im angry just reading this cant believe you had to ask the stw massive.
Has your company no morals and respect for its staff?
Your not a major uk telecoms by any chance are you – thats what my lot are likePosted 10 years agoellipticMember
What skidartist said. I'd see "employees park at their own risk" as a disclaimer for damage caused by a third party.
But in this case it's clearly the company's fault, so they should pay up.Posted 10 years ago
In the meantime get your finger out and sort your health and safety out before someone gets killed.
Well yes that too. I hope you're looking after the trainee, poor sod, he must feel awful about it.Posted 10 years agoTracker1972Member
Think it has been said really, morally and probably legally, pay up. The real issue is how did the trainee hit it. Inadequately supervised? Inadequately trained? Both could be pretty serious issues and will be questioned if anything else happens.Posted 10 years ago
I'm going to stick a sign on the front of my van saying "Pedestrians stand about at their own risk" then mow down a bus queue 🙂Posted 10 years agogrummMember
I reckon cough up immediately and be very nice to her and hope she doesn't make a fuss about poor H+S and training procedures. Can't believe the question is being asked really.Posted 10 years agoPapa_LazarouMember
if said employee damaged your car in the same car park would you just let it go? Don't think so somehow.
speaks volumes that you've asked this question in the first place
merry christmasPosted 10 years ago
I'm guessing Daisy might regret posting this question!!Posted 10 years ago
You could say that!Posted 10 years agooddjobMember
I've noticed a patern emerging here.Posted 10 years ago
It seems that the general opinion is that you should pay up and do it quickly with an apology, a smile and a bunch of flowers for the inconvenience.WorldClassAccidentMember
..and let her wee in the forklift drivers shoes*
*not necessary but it is a while since I have seen the phrase on STW and thought I would revive its use.Posted 10 years ago
Yes flowers and two great big corks on the end of the forklift forks.Posted 10 years agoDrPMember
As has been said – pay up!
Just because a sign has been put up, you cannot shirk your responsibilities if you/your employee has been neglegent.
Was the forklift driver trying to jack up the car – car jenga stylee….
DrPPosted 10 years ago
Spend the £500 on a bike for herPosted 10 years agoAndyPMember
let the employee worry about the repairs. Meanwhile change the carpark to a forklift training area, and implement the bike to work scheme.Posted 10 years agoIAMember
If the forklift driver managed to hit a large stationary object (a car) I'd not like to risk walking about that carpark, say to my car…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqd4aPs5WTA (you want to watch it right through)Posted 10 years agogusamcMember
if an employee chinned you in the employee car park would you say no probs I realise that "employee's park at their own risk etc"Posted 10 years agojon1973Member
I vote we all wee in Daisy_Duke's shoes 😆Posted 10 years agoDrJMember
..and let her wee in the forklift drivers shoes*
*not necessary but it is a while since I have seen the phrase on STW and thought I would revive its use.
And own him with Bombers.Posted 10 years ago
Thanks all for your responses! To be fair, we were never in disagreement with paying for the damage to her car, but some of the damage the employee was claiming for so minor you had to get a magnifying glass out to see it. I'm not joking here I promise. Also just to point out that the car park was not used as a training area. The driver of the runaway FLT went through a roller shutter door which took 99% impact. It only damaged the car on the exit. Feel sorry for the FLT driver and glad he wasn't hurt himself. He said he hit the accelerator rather than the brake!Posted 10 years agobigblokeMember
ffs, trainee's should'nt be driving around unsupervised anyhow?.
damage is damage, pay up. If it was yours or other management's car/property i doubt there would be so much indecision regards the handling of the whole event.Posted 10 years ago
BB, how do you know he was unsupervised? 🙄Posted 10 years agomastiles_fanylionMember
Does it matter if a magnifying glass is needed? If the car was unmarked before, it should be repaired to that standard. And the poor sod is left with a car that has respray on it that rarely matches up to original paintwork and can reduce its second-hand value.
Pay in full, grovel and do whatever is needed to satisfy the employee 100%Posted 10 years ago
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