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  • Premier Icon teamhurtmore
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    I thought he was a fan of the codeine?

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    If your in position to get a new bike that often then why not 🙂

    Though I assume he noted in STW fashion that the TT is too short and the angles are soooo outdated 😉

    Premier Icon BillOddie
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    Worth mentioning he got the bike for free.

    iolo
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    Did he pay for the Codeine?

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    Doesn’t everyone?

    eyerideit
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    Isn’t he paid to ‘like’ it? Like he was paid to like On-Ones.

    I’d heartily recommend anything I was given for free/paid to do so.

    Premier Icon BigDummy
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    He does also ride a certain amount. 😉

    iolo
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    People ask me how I can be independent when I review a bike that I’ve been given. Well I can’t claim to be can I? However I’m not going to say that I like something if I don’t, in fact you won’t see me riding something that I don’t like. Basically I don’t do anything that I don’t like doing if I can at all help it! You will just have to decide if you believe me or not. Chin up!

    His last paragraph

    atlaz
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    if I can at all help it!

    Depends on how much money someone is bunging him I guess 😉

    hora
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    Isn’t he paid to ‘like’ it? Like he was paid to like On-Ones.

    I’d heartily recommend anything I was given for free/paid to do so.

    Hes not paid enough (i,e a pro-rider) to lose his own taste/morals so hes probably being honest TBH.

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    actually if he didnt pay for it im more inclined to believe him

    how many people pay $$$$ for a shiny new bike and then come on here and tell everyone how crap it is?
    no one wants to admit (to themselves or anyone else) that they spent their hard earned on a duffer

    iolo
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    The Heckler has been around a fair few years. I had 2004 and 2007 ones that I absolutely loved.
    I can’t see why this will be any worse.It will only be better.
    I’m not a pro rider and have not been paid to say this.

    xiphon
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    Of course 27.5″ is perfect.

    Brings the tail alive, innit 😉

    how many people pay $$$$ for a shiny new bike and then come on here and tell everyone how crap it is?
    no one wants to admit (to themselves or anyone else) that they spent their hard earned on a duffer

    Exactly – if it was free, you HAVE to praise it. If you paid for it, you wouldn’t give it a crap review either…

    iolo
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    Santa Cruz Heckler 1st week

    He seems to like it

    I’m sold on the 27.5 wheel size. I liked 29ers until it got very steep and tight and then they were just too big for me at my height. Basically I got bummed with the back wheel! I did love the way they rolled through rocks though and I’m glad that the 27.5s have a similar quality. Enough said on this issue.

    This might be my next bike. I had the 2007 one and loved it.

    WackoAK
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    Frame only £1349…

    iolo
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    On that thinking why does Top Gear slate so many cars?
    I’m sure them free fools who present it don’t do it for free.

    Premier Icon jam bo
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    AK37 wrote:

    Frame only £1349…

    you’ll pick one up in the classifieds for less than half that in 12 months.

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    WackoAK – Member
    Frame only £1349…

    So still cheaper than a 5? 😉

    iolo
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    you’ll pick one up in the classifieds for less than half that in 12 months.

    No doubt. Look how many Bronsons have appeared already.
    Plus other 3 month bikes.
    Usually bikes bought in wrong size/skint/wife finds out/whatever.

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    WackoAK – Member
    Frame only £1349…

    and?
    £150 cheaper than a 5, £250 cheaper than an alpine?

    WackoAK
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    So still cheaper than a 5?

    and?
    £150 cheaper than a 5, £250 cheaper than an alpine?

    It’s like shooting fish in a barrel 😉

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    you’ll pick one up in the classifieds for less than half that in 12 months.

    Same goes for anything, 50% off for no warranty and used. Depreciates from there. Though if nobody buys new bikes then nobody gets used ones cheap.

    Premier Icon Teetosugars
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    It’s like shooting fish in a barrel

    :mrgreen:

    Premier Icon mrblobby
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    Frame only £1349…

    And $1299 in the US (about 770 quid). Stif’s pricing is pretty ridiculous.

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    Though I assume he noted in STW fashion that the TT is too short and the angles are soooo outdated

    Looks like they fixed both those things… which is what the Heckler really needed. The wheels are incidental, no?

    hora
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    And $1299 in the US (about 770 quid). Stif’s pricing is pretty ridiculous.

    True. Even if they bought them in shops in the US at US RRP and carried them over in suitcases they’d still make profit on their UK retail…

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    $1299 US comes to about £1000 imported with Duty and Taxes without any shipping. Add in distribution, advertising demo and support then it’s a lot closer.

    US prices always look much better as they don’t include 20% VAT or any other sales tax

    Premier Icon darrenspink
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    Good price for a nice bit of kit I reckon.

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    American’s normally pay local sales tax as well, they just tend not to include this in the quoted price, hence all the comparisons being up the spout.

    [edit – that was in reply to a, now edited/deleted, post blaming the EU for us paying VAT, implying ‘Mercans don’t]

    hora
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    True, 5%?

    Premier Icon mrblobby
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    $1299 US comes to about £1000 imported with Duty and Taxes without any shipping. Add in distribution, advertising demo and support then it’s a lot closer.

    I’d assume as importer that Stif were getting them for about half that price. It’s still a huge margin when you compare to frames imported by other distributors (e.g. Yeti SB95C, $2999 to £2599.) Was looking at Niner frames not so long ago and was amazed by how much Stif were charging for them compared to US prices. Basically, change the dollar to a pound, then add on a couple of hundred quid.

    Having said that frames do seem to be increasingly priced to match similar products in the marketplace. E.g. the heckler slightly under cutting the Five.

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    5%? Varies state to state and is added on at the till.
    On the suitcase idea you would still be liable for 5% Import Duty and then 20% on top for VAT. Yuu would also need to cover the cost of flights and bikes up front, carry enough stock to meet supply and deal with any issues in the UK.

    I’m sure though most people here could do a much better job for a much tighter margin 🙂

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    True, 5%?

    Or more… confusing as hell when you’re over there… it even seems to vary from shop to shop in the same state sometimes, as it’s often wholly or partly optional to pass the tax onto the customer in the final price paid:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States#By_jurisdiction

    hora
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    I’m sure though most people here could do a much better job for a much tighter margin

    Or professor farnsworth could use his shrinking machine then you could sneak them onboard in your pocket?… 😉

    Premier Icon mrblobby
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    I’m sure though most people here could do a much better job for a much tighter margin

    If I was the importer then I’d sell them at a price the market dictates. People seem more than willing to fork out the cash for what they perceive to be a boutique brand.

    Now where’s the 650B Chameleon, I’m getting impatient 😉

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    Isn’t he paid to ‘like’ it? Like he was paid to like On-Ones.

    I’d heartily recommend anything I was given for free/paid to do so.

    He wasn’t paid to like on-ones 🙂

    timc
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    So he bought the bikes from you then Brant?

    Thought so… 🙄

    robidoo
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    Wouldn’t fancy taking a swig from that bottle 😛

    Premier Icon rOcKeTdOg
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    I expect he is paid to like it butmy riding buddy has one & he loves it & I’m annoyed Coz it’s a size bigger than my super light, has 50mm mire travel and is lighter!

    He would like it, it’s free! It was only a few years ago that the Heckler was £899 or something?

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