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  • Eagle Issue on Steep Climbs
  • oikeith
    Full Member

    Running a NX mech on a GX cassette, have recently had an issue where when in the 50 and pedalling hard up a steep hill the mech will clip the spokes slightly.

    Several times now I have adjusted the limit screw to move the mech away from the spokes, all is okay in the stand, on the flat or moderate hills, but then I go out and hit a punchy climb and it starts doing it!

    B tension has been set with the bike sagged, hanger is straight and checked using hanger alignment tool I own, mech hasnt been crashed or bent.

    Anyone else had this and resolved it or can think of anything to try?

    DrP
    Full Member

    Is the cassette done up tight enough?
    DrP

    BadlyWiredDog
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    Is the wheel flexing?

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    ebennett
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    Stupid question first, is the bolt attaching the derailleur to the frame done up properly? I’m guessing it is, so maybe worth checking for play in the parallelogram – I’ve had to replace an eagle mech before due to play, it wasn’t obvious while shifting in the stand but when moving the mech by hand you could see it quite clearly.

    oikeith
    Full Member

    Is the cassette done up tight enough?

    I’ll say yes, cassette hasnt been touch and I’ve not known a cassette to come loose before

    Is the wheel flexing?

    I did have the wheel trued and tensioned to see if this was the cause and the issue continued

    is the bolt attaching the derailleur to the frame done up properly? I’m guessing it is, so maybe worth checking for play in the parallelogram – I’ve had to replace an eagle mech before due to play, it wasn’t obvious while shifting in the stand but when moving the mech by hand you could see it quite clearly.

    Yeah, hanger is tight as is the mech into the hanger, I think it being NX and having 750miles-ish on it might be wear in the parallelogram, will give it a check shortly, was hoping there was fix as opposed to a dent in my bank account or a new mech!

    intheborders
    Free Member

    I’ll say yes, cassette hasnt been touch and I’ve not known a cassette to come loose before

    But you’ve not actually checked…

    It’s not a fault with GX/NX as otherwise they’d be thousands of us complaining – it’ll be with your particular setup.

    What about bearings in the wheel & freehub, any movement – or a loose axle or the axle retention?

    dropoff
    Full Member

    Is your frame flexing ? Can you try another mech.

    BadlyWiredDog
    Full Member

    Have you checked the hanger alignment properly using an alignment tool? It doesn’t take much misalignment at the hanger to mess things up.

    DrP
    Full Member

    I’ll say yes, cassette hasnt been touch and I’ve not known a cassette to come loose before

    I have…..
    Makes the cassette wobble.

    DrP

    Edit.. though you say it’s the MECH catching the spokes…. so unlikely a cassette issue

    StuF
    Full Member

    is the frame flexing?

    hot_fiat
    Full Member

    Wobbly tyre catching the chain in 1st and making the mech move? Could even be a slightly bent chainring or 50t sprocket.

    steve_b77
    Free Member

    The pins on the parallelogram wear causing the mech to flex under load, you can replace them with stainless steel ones if you can be arsed.

    ebennett
    Full Member

    The pins on the parallelogram wear causing the mech to flex under load, you can replace them with stainless steel ones if you can be arsed.

    Got any guides/vids showing how? Still got my old mech in the shed and given supply issues it might be easier to replace the pins than get a new one!

    rickmeister
    Full Member

    Is the hanger made of that special Monkey Cheese Metal™ which is so soft that the B screw starts to eat into it, reducing the chain clearance?

    weeksy
    Full Member

    I had it on a bike that belonged my lads mate… B screw sorted it.

    big_scot_nanny
    Full Member

    I had this recently, similar set up thought was GX mech on NX cassette. Setting the b-screw adjustment correctly helped a bit initially, but then after a few more rides it got worse.

    Wheel tension turned out to be really bad (like, many loose spokes, no idea how it survived!), and once the wheel was tensioned and trued the issue has not returned.

    Sounds similar?

    steve_b77
    Free Member

    Got any guides/vids showing how? Still got my old mech in the shed and given supply issues it might be easier to replace the pins than get a new one!

    I haven’t personally, but there must be something on the interwed, 2 of my mates have “fixed” theirs by replacing the pins, it seems a simple case of drifting the old ones out, and koncking new ones in.

    BigJohn
    Full Member

    I’ve got NX cassette and mech, GX chain. There’s one steep switchback climb at the start of the Monkey trail that mine has a tendency to do that. Nowhere else. I guess it’s to do with wheel flex. Tightening the cable adjuster a notch or two made it go away.

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    I’d read reports that that the b bolt on NX was basically shite and allowed loads of slop, along with the parallelogram pins as mentioned above. Solution is expensive X01 bolt.

    VanHalen
    Full Member

    buying a shimano mech will solve this issue.

    you can run it on your gx shifter and have decent shifting for longer. and you dont have the crappy narrowwide jockey wheel collecting crud, and the mech doesnt stick out as much so you are less likely to knock it. And its cheaper.

    better still – buy Mocroshift advent x drivetrain and avoid 12speed all together. Probably cheaper than a replacement SRAM 12sp mech and less prone to crud and knocks and will definaly last longer than a SRAM mech.

    ampthill
    Full Member

    Is the cassette done up tight enough?

    My gx Eagle bike doesn’t shift that well. How is a xd driver cassette attached? My back wheel once fell out of the van Ave the cassette fell off. I think exposing the free hub mechanism. I put it back on and it’s not come off again. But is there Something I can check for tightness?

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Van Halen – better still use an IGH and never get these issues 🙂

    *runs away again*

    sillyoldman
    Full Member

    You’d have to run TJ – you won’t go anywhere fast on your bike with an IGH… 😉

    tjagain
    Full Member

    🙂

    Scienceofficer
    Free Member

    I find that my eagle b tension screw migrates. Have you checked recently?

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