- Dutch man, 69, starts legal fight to identify as 20 years younger
A 69-year-old Dutch “positivity guru” who says he does not feel his age has started a battle to make himself legally 20 years younger on the grounds that he is being discriminated against on a dating app.
Emile Ratelband told a court in Arnhem in the Netherlands that he did not feel “comfortable” with his date of birth, and compared his wish to alter it to people who identified as transgender.
Interesting to see how this works outPosted 4 months agoSpeederSubscriber
Think this has to be fair. I don’t see how it can be disputed without discriminating.
It’s a crazy ****ed up world we live in and it’s seemingly getting worse every day. Do we not have anything else worth getting upset about?
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!!!!!!Posted 4 months agoMarkBrewerMember
I don’t see how it can be disputed without discriminating
I think since the gender thing with people being allowed to identify as something they’re not the floodgates are opened now and you’ll be able to identify yourself as anything you want.
I might try taking a piss against a lamppost next time I walk into town and if I get challenged about it I’ll just say I identify as a dog so it’s fine!Posted 4 months agoepicycloSubscriber
I’m not sure I approve of his purpose, but being able to legally identify as younger may be an advantage for middle aged people who are reaching “that age” where the bosses say, “Yeah, they’re good, but we’ll pick the younger guy”.
I’ve uncovered quite a few instances of it in my family when doing ancestry research.
The best was a grand aunt whose husband only discovered she was 10 years older when he did the paperwork for her death. He was a young buck over from Canada in WW1 and she was a 31 year old spinster who transformed into 21 year old.
On the other hand what happens when a 45 year old decides to identify as 65 years old and rolls up to collect a pension? 🙂Posted 4 months agoMarkBrewerMember
No, they aren’t.
Ffs, this place…
This person was allowed…Posted 4 months agojonnyboiMember
When I’m on Tinder and it says I’m 69, I don’t get an answer. When I’m 49, with the face I have, I will be in a luxurious position.”
I was hoping he was making a novel stand against age descrimination, but in fact he’s just an aging perv who probably thinks all women are shallow.
I suspect his answer to the obvious question that he date women his own age, is that he’s already had them all.Posted 4 months agodangeourbrainSubscriber
The changing for pension purposes is a great plan, I’ll skip to 67 now, take 10 years retirement whilst I’m “young fit and able” then I’ll clock my age back and work till I’m dead to make up the contributions whilst I’m a dribbling incontinent chair bound wreck.Posted 4 months agorene59Member
This makes the case of the adult schoolboys in the news quite interesting!
There was a case a couple years ago of a grown man who identified/acted like a toddler in a Canadian university. The female staff who had to put up with his nonsense got no support when they complained to the university about his harassment and were asked to keep teaching him. The guy had some weird baby fetish.Posted 4 months agoDezBSubscriber
Can he not just lie about his date of birth on the dating site, like every other bugger ?
See, there’s the thing, of course he could. But then he’d find women still wouldn’t go for him, so he’d have to start a legal fight to not be considered ugly and another one not to be considered an absolute arsehole. Good luck in the courts granddad.Posted 4 months ago
I haven’t seen anyone do that in this thread (I might have missed it), but can you spell out the difference so nobody makes that mistake in future?
It’s so multifaceted I’m unlikely to do it in a post, but here are a few bits. There are something like 17 different chromosomal abnormalities that make gender incredibly complicated. Some of these are edge cases that affect people invisibly without them ever fully realising. Some are more obvious edge cases that lead parents and doctors to make early decisions that can become incredibly distressing for people later in life. None of this is in any scientific dispute, it’s evidence, not ideology that’s put this in our laws and the NHS.
In the nineties I said something ignorant, and it was a conservative Christian nurse who set me straight on how complicated and non-binary gender can be. A lot of her peers and beliefs had been stacked against her understanding or acknowledging that, but she chose to go with the facts of what she’d seen and had to deal with professionally.
Thirty years later we still have gender essentialist idiots on forums though, who tend to take the bit about identification and make hilarious jokes about it. If they actually looked into the GRA and process of changing gender, or knew any trans people well at all, they’d understand that it’s absolutely hellish and no one commits to it for a giggle.
Every process in our society has a minority of bad actors, but in respect of gender, reactionary and alt-right types point to them in attempts to imply all trans people are insincere or wrong or something. That car insurance thing for instance: it’s a story about the law being an ass. There are equally ridiculous loopholes in other parts of the law, which is inevitable in such a complex system, but this one happens to relate to gender. Good luck to “David” if she’s being disingenuous and ever has to make a claim – the insurance company will be all over that. The story fundamentally tells us nothing about trans people and isn’t about them, but by association transphobes can use it as a wedge to try and drive their hateful views deeper into society.
In this way, the 69 year old guru campaigning to legally change his age has more in common with transphobes than trans people.Posted 4 months agotechnicallyineptMember
they’d understand that it’s absolutely hellish and no one commits to it for a giggle
The internet appears to be awash with people doing exactly that. Well, not a giggle, more a way to asset power over women.
Latest example: Jessica Yaniv, a Canadian transwoman has filed 16 human rights complaints against women who don’t want to wax ‘her’ balls. Jessica also asked for advice on forums on how to show young girls to insert a tampon, but claims their login was hacked and the didn’t write this.Posted 4 months ago
Wow, yeah, it’s almost like transphobes have some sort of agenda to give such edge cases disproportionate attention and repeatedly shove them in our faces, eh? hmm, oh my god, why would they do such a thing. I’m not going to repeat myself, even if you do.
Are you referring to gender or sex?
I used gender there but it affects both. Obviously they’re not the same thing but they interact.Posted 4 months ago
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