Droppers !! What's the best of a bad bunch ?
Reverb has proven unreliable and its possible to be caught out with them limping past the two year mark, plus I really really don’t Luke the button.
KS lev has actually proven pretty reliable although after a few years, the sprag bearing has started to mark the stanchion despite religious cleaning and shaft services.
Thomson has proven functionally reliable but has displayed more slop than I would like and has been prone to creaking. Not sure if it was the retailer or the importer, but 8wk turn around is unacceptable to me.
I really want to like the Fox transfer as I hear the doss was pretty reliable. However, saw a chap with a box fresh one in holiday that ended up with more slop in a week than I had on a 3 month old Thomson. I do hope his was just a bad one.
Does seem to be a component that really perplexes manufacturers.Posted 1 year agoNorthwindSubscriber
My ancient KS i950 is still battling on. It’s had one fairly major repair but even that was barely as expensive as a Reverb service. The drawback of this anecdote is, there’s no way of knowing if it reflects current KSs.
Reverbs are still flaky- the new one has the exact same IFP issue as all previous Reverbs, despite claims of improvements. But otoh they have a kind of killer edge in the 170mm post, that was enough to make me buy one even though I was expecting it to go wrong (it has btw) and even though the lever sucks balls. But when it works it has no peers tbh.
Thomson to the surprise of nobody has recurring, unresolved issues- they did zero UK testing til after the design was finalised, which was helpful when people started having issues because they already knew exactly what was wrong- but not too good as an owner. Aaaand, the Fall Line seems to be seriously picky about adjustment, to the extent of frequently stopping working mid ride until you fanny about with the controls. So that can **** off.Posted 1 year ago
Thomson to the surprise of nobody has recurring, unresolved issues- they did zero UK testing til after the design was finalised, which was helpful when people started having issues because they already knew exactly what was wrong- but not too good as an owner
Have Shimano? as an aside the new CB one was out with their Pro riders back in Feb and has had a lot of testing out there.Posted 1 year agoBigDummySubscriber
These threads are never a very positive experience! 😀
Somewhat random point: I was looking the other day at hand-held percussion massagers on Amazon. Across all models at price points between $30 – $195, there are about 16% of reviews which give 1 star and claim that the product failed almost immediately. 16%. Most of the other users who reviewed were happy enough. (I tend to assume that bad experiences translate much more readily into negative reviews). It struck me that this was fairly similar to us lot and dropper posts. Something like 85% (???) of any given model works adequately in use for long enough that the owner moves on to something else without getting angry with it. But if you’re one of the people who, through bad luck, above-average use or something else entirely, gets a dud then that really does suck, and the behaviour of the distributor in response to the problem is crucial – if they replace promptly the odds are reasonably good that you’ll not get a second lemon and the situation is saved. But the failure rate on all of these things seems to be pretty (too?) high.Posted 1 year agoTreksterSubscriber
BigDummy – Member
These threads are never a very positive experience!
Somewhat random point: I was looking the other day at hand-held percussion massagers on Amazon.
Do they work?
Workmate has just bought/been recommended one for his painful joints.
MrsT has a painful, degenerative arthritis problem, curious to know if these “tools” are worth investing in????Posted 1 year ago
if they replace promptly the odds are reasonably good that you’ll not get a second lemon and the situation is saved. But the failure rate on all of these things seems to be pretty (too?) high.
I’d say it’s close to the limits of what is possible for mass manufacture, the comparison of forks is always there but the bracing from corwns etc. is there to stop the forces loading in funny directions, think of the direction of load on the post. If the tolerances are good they seem to last, my experience was..
KSi950 lasted 400m out of the box, fixed and used for about 3 years before I sold it without being touched.
KS Lev ran for 2 years, needed a clean out, ran for another year before needing a service.
RS Reverb, 6 months use no issues.
There is aPosted 1 year ago
effect going on here, the noisy ones are generally the instant/early failures, the mid life ones post and say something and the wear out failures (2 years +) just accept it and move on a lot more quietly in general.
The people who have stuff that just works rarely comment on it as they tend not to open the what this threads.
(in general I’m out of touch on hub bearings, frame bearings and BB’s as I’ve had great life from all my kit)Rick DraperSubscriber
My Fox Transfer post has been faultless. Ok it could do with a reduction in rotational play but I can put up with that as long as it’s reliable. The lever has a nice feel and the return speed is easily controlled by the lever. I’ll see how it goes through winter and report back.Posted 1 year agorOcKeTdOgSubscriber
I’m on my third! By once, replace forever
I never understand this by reverb lovers, I’d rather have a post that worked properly all the time everytime
GD here, ugly as sin, 5 years old serviced twice (10 minute job) no faults at all used at least 3 times a week in all weathersPosted 1 year agoFunkyDuncMember
This thread completely puts me off getting one if the cost to life expectancy is only 6 months to 2 years!
I used to run USE suspension seat posts which fell apart as soon as they got near mud, even though USE replaced parts the whole experience got a bit tiring so gave up.
Sounds like these are the same….Posted 1 year agochilled76Member
Just to throw some balance to this as inevitably people will respond if they’ve had negative experiences with xyz…
I’ve had a reverb on the last bike for 4 years, never serviced it and it still works fine (it’s in my spares box).
Got a ks lev integra on my bike currently and work faultlessly.Posted 1 year agomattbeeSubscriber
Thomson is lovely when it’s working. Mine has been back under warranty 4 times for the same issue; cartridge starting to sag and not fully extend. For md the turnaround has always been sub 14 days but when a new cartridge fails within 2 weeks & the only fix is to send it back in it gets a little wearing. If you could service/fix it at home it would be amazing but since you can’t, mine which is failing for the 5th time in 2 years now will just go in the bin & be replaced with sometelse.Posted 1 year agoweeksySubscriber
I had a KS950i which i sold to a mate, i bought it USED too… 3 years later it’s barely been touched. Another one the same has required no work at all apart from a cable replacement after 1 winter, that’s also over 3 years old now too and still cracking on well.
I had a reverb for 1 ride before i sold the bike, but it worked fine 🙂
I’ve now got an X-fusion Hilo… which is.. Mmmmm errrrm.Posted 1 year agoHob NobMember
My very first silver collar Reverb was warrantied, but that’s been it.
Fishers made me a 30.9 150mm drop post that was 2 years old before I sold it, needed a service but that’s all.
My Lev Integra is about 12-15 months old now & still fine.
New bike soon so looking at the 170mm Reverb again, but will probably try the Bike Yoke lever instead to make it a bit more user friendly. I am quite tempted to try the new Bike Yoke post, as it’s 160mm and has a couple of good design ideas.
I can put up with the reliability for the benefit – it’s still a lot of stuff going on in a very small area.Posted 1 year agowarpcowMember
I’ve got a 2011 Reverb that’s still chugging along merrily. Had one full service in that time.
Then of course, there’s my GD Turbo, which is a little older than the Reverb and has only been opened and greased because I got curious to see what it looked like inside a couple of years ago (it was clean).
I’ve had others too, cheaper ones. They’re all gone now due to failures and lack of parts to get them working again.Posted 1 year agoPrinceJohnMember
I had a ks one and it was great, the only issue i had was it was cable activated and some grit got into the mechanism that held it open, so it kept dropping. Cleaned that out and made a neat inner tube boot for it and it worked perfectly. All I did was on occasion lube it with the posh fox blue lube.Posted 1 year agon0b0dy0ftheg0atMember
These often recurring threads about dropper issues from various manufacturers fill me with caution, a bit like oval shaped seat tubes from a certain company! 😉
Owners often rave about droppers, but why on earth would I want to speed ~£200+ on a bike item that sounds like it is bound to fail within two years? 😆Posted 1 year agoboriselbrusSubscriber
I’ll just leave this here:
🙂Posted 1 year agoNorthwindSubscriber
rOcKeTdOg – Member
GD here, ugly as sin, 5 years old serviced twice (10 minute job) no faults at all used at least 3 times a week in all weathers
If Gravity Dropper made a post with competitive drop I’d be all over it. Mine was great but 100mm just isn’t as good.
n0b0dy0ftheg0at – Member
Owners often rave about droppers, but why on earth would I want to speed ~£200+ on a bike item that sounds like it is bound to fail within two years?
Because when they work, they’re totally game changing. My rigid has a dropper, because riding without suspension is fun and challenging and different, but riding without a dropper is just shit.Posted 1 year agospawnofyorkshireSubscriber
The drawback of this anecdote is, there’s no way of knowing if it reflects current KSs.
I’m on the updated KS Supernatural 150mm dropper and it’s great, better than my reverb that died
It’s my second after a lever operated one that’s still going strong on a mates bike
Another buddy runs the KS Lev and it’s been faultless for him too
Only thing i’m wanting is a southpaw style lever, but that’s a desireable not a necessityPosted 1 year agoidiotdogbrainMember
It always gets mentioned but everyone ignores it – two people so far have said: COMMAND POST! Very early ones occasionally had issues with the collet breaking but that has (AFAIK) not been a problem on the Backlite and later. Can be stripped and serviced in 15mins, cable actuation so no bleed issues. Fit and forget really.Posted 1 year agochestrockwellMember
Reverb. Works beautifully. Always available for much less than RRP.
Is that still the case? The current model in stealth seems to be about the most expensive out there.
I’ve had a Thomson for years with no issues at all. Much nicer bit of kit than my Reverb or the Specialized one.Posted 1 year ago
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