- drafting strangers – rude?
Seen an increase in this recently. Must be the summer and tour influence.
When out riding I seem to attract wheel suckers. Some are polite and at least make their presence known although I’ve yet to have somebody offer a wheel*.
I-ve been drafted when training for time trials, had a guy sprint past me, blow up then draft me and today a guy draft me despite a tail wind and me doing 15mph.
Is it ruder to turn round and tell them to fxck off, launch an attack or simply explain that its like tailgaiting and a bit dangerous if you don’t make your presence known.
* I realise that the number of people drafting is directly correlated to my awesomeness 🙂Posted 4 years agohatterSubscriber
As a rather broad chap 2 inches off my back wheel is very desirable real estate in a headwind, my personal record was on the Garmin rideout when I looked round to find a conga line consisting of twelve of the sneaky buggers grinning sheepishly at me from behind their radars.
Protocolwise it depends on how they arrive on your wheel, you’ve gone steaming past them I feel it’s well within their rights to hop on, if they’ve latched on and said hello then fair enough I’ve done it a few times on the homeward stretch when I’m knackered.
If they’ve crept up behind you and not announced their presence then that’s a touch off and frankly dangerous so Glupton’s options 1-3 come into play.Posted 4 years ago
Up in the grim north, it’s part and parcel of being a cyclist, and involves a chat. A northern chat, of course;
Newcastle so not the south unless you are one of them Scottish folk. Again the polite thing to do would be say hello. Most just silently sneak on and then crack at the first hill.Posted 4 years ago
Ah, I meant the grim north, Manchesterish…
It’s never been an issue here, if they can keep up, they’re ok.
Although the above conversation is for comic effect, I have had a similar experience with a bloke I knew by sight; we did 120 miles together and the conversation went;
Dunno, fancy t’Trough?
We then rode from Manchester, over the Trough of Bowland, back through Preston to Manchester, and said ;
Good ride, youth.
Talked my ears off he did…Posted 4 years agobellysMember
Only had it done twice both were on the mtb…there was a guy sat on my wheel on a local trail on Tuesday night, he did not speak or let me know he was there…so I locked the back wheel he screamed like a kid at me for slowing down for no reason. Made me smile. 😀 before the next climb I let him pass I said hello but he did not so I buzzed his back wheel a cpl of times I did say sorry with a grin on my face..Posted 4 years agojamesoSubscriber
Dunno about rude but unless it’s a race, training at pace or a club run, drafting unannounced for too long is for the weak. You lose as soon as you latch on and stay quiet imo, it’s like admitting that you want to go at a pace that you can’t hold. Either go past and keep going, or hang back and ride at your own pace. Or say hi and see if your pacing works.Posted 4 years agoaPMember
On my commute home I get the cockrockets coming out of Richmond Park all Bradley’d up. The best commute home was coming into Putney and working together with a similarly commuting gent on a rather nice Hetchins and two-upping past a couple of carbon gods who, at one point before we properly dropped them tried to push me off my Hetchins mate’s wheel.Posted 4 years agoandytherocketeerSubscriber
Had a wheel sucker the other day. Stopped to let a car out which had right of way. All I heard was frantic downchanging, braking and “Scheiss! F*** F***!!!” as he swerved past me and almost in to a tree. Didn’t realise he was that close. Was on the CX bike with extended braking distances – if I’d been on HT with disc brakes, he’d have spacked me for sure.
Occasionally get them drafting on a hill climb, which seems odd in a forest. I just let up on the pedals for a second and break their rythm.Posted 4 years agotoxicsoksMember
As someone who is new to road cycling and not particularly quick, I occasionally find myself sitting on someones wheel a bit longer than is, perhaps, polite. The reason for this is that, I feel, if I overtake I’ll be starting a race ( I don’t race) – this has happened a couple of times – the twunt in front will deliberately speed up to prevent me overtaking – look, pal, the only reason I’m passing you is because you are going slower than me. There is no chance of me going any faster so either speed up or wind your neck in.Posted 4 years agosleeplessMember
took the terrible-ribble for a blast this morning over Birker Fell (that is oop norf in t’lake district ya know). a mtb drafted me up the road without me realising it then overtook as i was looking at the hill view. I said ‘alright Mawra (friend)?’ as you do, but he totally blanked me.Posted 4 years ago
how rude i thought. so i took off after him and as I blasted past i spotted he was plugged into his ipod. he did not catch me up after that mind.Deveron53Member
In my Sheffield commute days I regularly attracted drafters along the Abbeydale/London/Queens roads and the first few times it gave me a fright as I did the look over the shoulder to find a face only 4 feet from mine! After that I looked behind more regularly and if I found a wheel sucker and I was in a less than charitable mood, I aimed for all the potholes (mtb with knobblies), braked heavily (discs) or tried to drop them on the short hills. It made the rides a bit more enjoyable! (for me).Posted 4 years ago
Now I only ride the quiet roads and off roads of Aberdeenshire so I never see ANYBODY!Militant_bikerMember
Last night I played leapfrog with another commuter, him passing me when I spun out, then me dragging back up to him. I hate drafting someone that I don’t know, so I went through each time, then slowed up to let him back on my wheel. Turns out after about 5 miles home, that he lives on the same street.
It would have been better to do all this NOT after 2 beers and a belly of BBQ…Posted 4 years agoshortcutSubscriber
Very annoying – I try to drop folk, if I am catching someone I hangnail a little until I can make an overtake work and stick.
Nothing worse than being overtaken by some shaven scrawny fella at the bottom of a hill who the slows down – I feel so rude riding past him but always make sure to make a cheery comment and not breath too hard.Posted 4 years ago
I don’t see why either situation is rude. Its just riding.
In a car it would be illegal. No idea they are there, probably cannot react to things quick enough and could cause an accident. Risk is accepted amongst racers and friends but no idea if the random has a clue about group riding.Posted 4 years agosprockerSubscriber
some dick did it to me yesterday on the way to work doing between 24 and 28 on the flat every time I looked round he was literally 6 inches of my back wheel. I waved him to come round for a turn which he did not feel the need to do. I then stop at a red light and he goes straight through. Tw….tPosted 4 years agosamuriMember
if they can keep up, they’re ok.
^^This. Anyone who can latch onto my wheel and stay there is almost certainly an experienced roadie and I’m perfectly happy about them sitting there. If we continue on the same route I’d expect them to take their turn and depending on how hard it is, after a few miles I’d make this clear to them.Posted 4 years agobent udderMember
Ah yes, the super-competitive commuter who doesn’t get drafting. That happens to me all the time, Sprocker.
I ride in from Wimbledon train station to Hammersmith each day on Brompton; you quickly get to know who you can take turns with, and who is mortally offended by someone who is quicker / able to pace them on a clown bike.
There’s one guy in particular in day glo who runs every single red light if he knows I’m behind him (I assume it’s the same if I’m up ahead) and starts pulling all kinds of daft stuff to shake me off. Of course, if I offer him my wheel, he feels obliged to get past me, rather than sitting in. At that point I always engage Sturmey Archer 3 Speed Power ™ and shake him down. But I don’t sit on his wheel if I can help it, because he just becomes an incredibly dangerous rider. In the past, I’ve sat back so as not to put him and other car drivers and cyclists in danger. Mind you, he rides semi-douche anyway – I just try and avoid pressurising him into full douchebag rider mode…
That said, there are a bunch of regulars who are all good for a bit of drafting and turn-taking, so bumping into them – even if we don’t exchange more than a couple of words – always makes my commute a lot better.Posted 4 years ago
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