worst thing about the north this any time of year?

it's full of **** southerners mincing round our mountains

Let the Southerners believe what they want, just keep sucking on the car fumes 😡 & keep our hills just for us! 😛

The North made this Country GREAT, but the people in the South KILLED it. FACT!! 😉

ever since i was a kid i had dreams of being able to master time travel, one day i discovered it was easy… just drive north, the only problem is that it makes you think you're having eyesight problems as everything just looses colour and the world turns grey :S

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London, to me, would be hell on earth as somewhere to actually live. Loads of great stuff to visit, but when you're on one of the overland tube trains, you see the houses the majority of Londoners live in.

Tiny bits of flat roof turned into a "roof terrace" with 3 pot plants and a deckchair as your outdoor space? Stuff that. Same goes for using the tube on a daily basis – if you made prisoners experience that everyday, Shami Chakrabarti would be straight round with a stern face and a copy of the Guardian.

just looses colour and the world turns grey

Then you truly are a master of time travel… I've seen the newsreels and everything used to be in black and white.

Shami Chakrabarti would be straight round with a stern face and a copy of the Guardian.

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something i think we can all agree on is that london is rubbish 😀

London, to me, would be hell on earth as somewhere to actually live.

agreed, i'm not far from london and i cant bear even driving near the m25 let alone into london, horrible place and everyone who lives there has a weird sense of superiority.

Well its yet another beautiful sunny day up north today. Time to un lease the whippets, feed the pigeons and get a fry up going. True to her word the chip muncher from the pub last night got a bit rough with me but I managed to escape from her flat before she awoke this morning. Out tonight riding even more dry dusty single track, a post ride beer or two and who knows I might just meet the girl of my dreams…… Its BRILLIANT up north.

You know that boy at school who used to bully all the smaller or more vulnerable kids, calling them g@y all the time. Yes, the one you met 15 years later walking around with his boyfriend. It was never a suprise was it? No one really has to try that hard to prove otherwise unless deep down they realise that they're not what they're pretending to be. that's all you Northerners with your protestations of 'The North is much better', that is 😉

un lease the whippets

Things must be tough if you're having to hire purchase your dogs!

I lived in Chester and also a Cheshire village and that didn't feel like the North – also lived in Sheffield and Hull which did. I've been to Harrogate, quite nice, why is everywhere else up there mostly a lot cheaper? Do many people there commute for long distances?

I liked living in London when I was younger and now find Surrey a pleasant place to be but would be happy in Cheshire (not Chester though).

God invented all the world, including London. I wouldn't say He's evil, just an underachiever.

The state of the weather out there today, i might as well live up north 🙁
Looks like the tide has come in.

TSY…Whippets are from JCT 600 however there is a mileage limitaton 8)
This place is brilliant and we can take the piss without getting knarked,dont you just love us good old northern type's.

I've been to Harrogate, quite nice, why is everywhere else up there mostly a lot cheaper?

Because of the real long term problems related to the decline of industry. Look at somewhere like Sheffield, and Hallam is one of the wealthiest wards in the country. Ecclesall Road is awash with fake tan and Range Rovers. Go down to the Don Valley, and things are pretty grim.

End results is that whilst average property prices are much lower, decent houses are still pricey. Harrogate is one of few places that is more or less solidly middle class.

British by birth, Cockney by the grace of god

Live up north? No thanks. Too far from the Channel Tunnel – our escape to civilisation.

The only north I want to live in is the north of mainland Europe – the south would be warmer but the north's where most of the jobs seem to be at the moment.

Harrogate is one of few places that is more or less solidly middle class.

Not really – head down the Knaresborough Road towards Starbeck (affectionately known as Stabeckistan) and see prices plummet (pretty rough – relatively speaking – in the St Andrew's area and towards the train line) and then house prices go up again as you get towards the River Nidd and into Knaresborough.

ooooooh always so much aggro looking north & east…come to the mild, mild west and chill 8)

British by birth, Cockney by the grace of god

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cheap good beer

Well, that's two out of three, anyway…

Just married a northern chick, and now live up here.

Riding's mint, beer is good, and it's cheap!

Beats central London for sure..

"What is the last pic? A pint of urine?"

😀 It's cider you twerp!

I'm always amused by the claim that beer in the "North" (often served adulterated with a gas to make it "smooth") is somehow superior to that brewed in, say, the Home Counties. This myth is often put about by cloddish and pasty wearers of "sports" clothing, who think that the height of good cuisine is a "Fish" cake that consists mostly of barely-cooked potato, usually accompanied by a sort of green gloop that used to be peas.

Sad little people.

Tijuana Taxi – Member
British by birth, Cockney by the grace of god

Eh? I thought you were from Leyton/stone? That's the **** Danelaw! 😀

And you've defected to Cambridge. A true Cockney would never leave the East End. 😉

What would Shami Chakrabati do?

Live in London. Not Oddmorden.

I'm glad loads of you hate London, because it means you miserable insular narrow-minded lot won't be coming to the Greatest City on Earth. Sweet.

S'just a load of petty jealousy most of this. Couple of valid points, but mostly the usual crap.

Britain is a fantastic and amazing land. I enjoy getting about it. Today I'm looking out over an amazing mountainous landscape. Tomorrow I'll be looking out over an amazing centre of culture and diverse humanity. It's all good.

What's with quoting things that nobody seems to have written?

I'm always amused by the claim that beer in the "North" (often served adulterated with a gas to make it "smooth") is somehow superior to that brewed in, say, the Home Counties.

It isn't that northern beer is always better (although the Midlands and the North probably have way more than their fair share of small breweries, so that might be true also), just that there are a much larger number of good pubs up here, so you are much more likely to be able to get a decent well kept pint of beer without going to a crazy expensive specialist place. If you think beer that isn't from London = Tetleys Smoothflow, then you're missing out on something.

I know in London there are okay pubs, but places that serve anything more adventurous than London Pride or Carling are pretty rare, and also tend to charge an awful lot for the privilege (like the place in Greenwich with the Meantime beers). Whereas even in our small town in Derbyshire (20,000 population), I can think of 3 or 4 pubs where you can get a selection of decent beers that are well kept, many of which will be brewed pretty locally, which is nice too.

Pubs in the North and Midlands are just generally better than in London. It's a simple fact, and one that I've observed practically over several years living in London and up here.

If you're wanting to argue that London is great, then argue about culture / arts / music etc. where it obviously is way ahead of the rest of the country, but beer wise, it is way behind, at least in terms of UK brewed beer, not fancy bars selling fancy imported stuff.

Joe

… also that "London" is the same thing as "The South"…

Has thee got owt moist? 🙂

nuff said

Oh… I'm hoping to finish off my weekly toil darn't pit early today so i can spend tomorrow in't ills. Proper 'ills mind. none of your southern numpty nonsense 😀

Joemarshall; you are just wrong, it's a simple fact.

Beer's good all over. London has pubs that are unique by comparison to anywhere else. I'm sure each area has the same; places that are entwined in the culture and history of the local area. But to say that the North has better pubs is no more than your subjective opinion, so don't try suggesting it as 'fact'. It's not.

BTW, Meantime beers in the Union in Greenwich are only marginally more expensive than chain pubs. And shed-loads better. Easily worth the extra.

I've been in more pubs in London than you have. That, my Northern friend, is a FACT.

*meanwhile in the South people got on with their lives without really paying any consideration to the North at all*

Send us down some proper gravy though, eh?

Yes, that looks exactly like a plate of fish and chips.

With some peas that someone has already eaten, by the looks of them.

I went to Londinium last year the beer in the Lock Tavern was good, the food was excellent and I rode around our capital on my bike. The north is just a better place to live if your a mtb'er.

I'm always amused by the claim that beer in the "North" (often served adulterated with a gas to make it "smooth")

When you say 'gas' I assume you mean 'air' – northern beer is not carbonated, it is simply pulled through a 'sparkler' to form a head of air bubbles.

Any good barman will happily take off the sparkler to pull it without a head if you ask nicely.

The north is just a better place to live if your a mtb'er.

See that's just it. I'm not a 'mtber'. I'm just someone who likes riding bikes. Sometimes I ride off road. It's all good*.

First and foremost, though, I'm a Londoner. So London is the best place for me to live. Bikes aren't the be all and end all of my life, just a small part of it.

*Speaking of which, I'm just off out now to ride me bike over a Welsh mountain. Have fun while I'm gone! 😀

Why do Northerners think the South = London?

I'll stay in the South West thanks, you lot can keep arguing over which bit's better. Oh, and London shandy and Northern bitter are both gash, give me some real ale or scrumpy any day of the week.

*posted by an ex south easterner who's lived oop north*

South West = West
South = South East and South coast

I am cyclist first and I agree its all good, but I do spend most of my time off road (single speed) I use the term mtb'er on here as this is an MTB forum. The gravy is in the post.

I've been in more pubs in London than you have. That, my Northern friend, is a FACT.

Oi, who are you calling Northern. I might happen to have lived up here rather than London for the last 5 years, but I don't think that qualifies me as being a Northerner. And yes I did go to pubs when I lived in London too.

Why do Northerners think the South = London?

I'll stay in the South West thanks, you lot can keep arguing over which bit's better. Oh, and London shandy and Northern bitter are both gash, give me some real ale or scrumpy any day of the week.

Because the South East is mostly similar to greater London (good pay, silly priced pubs, not so many nice things to drink in them). And the South West is like an honorary part of the North* (shit pay, okay pubs, nice things to drink in them).

Joe

*I'm including the Midlands in the North too on the pub measure.

*meanwhile in the South people got on with their lives without really paying any consideration to the North at all*

nail on the head there. through work i get to meet people from all over the country it's the northerners and jocks who insist on pushing their regional identity when most people 'down here' are not really interested and couldn't give a toss where they are from.

if they become assimilated they lose the chip after a couple of years and become normal people. ( i don't include midlanders in this assessment, they are usually friendly and up for a laugh without that underlying sneer of a 'proper northerner')

*meanwhile in the South people got on with their lives without really paying any consideration to the North at all*

nail on the head there. through work i get to meet people from all over the country it's the northerners and jocks who insist on pushing their regional identity when most people 'down here' are not really interested and couldn't give a toss where they are from.

if they become assimilated they lose the chip after a couple of years and become normal people. ( i don't include midlanders in this assessment, they are usually friendly and up for a laugh without that underlying sneer of a 'proper northerner')

agreed, the north is the place they go to for those secret millionaire programs yeah?