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  • Donald! Trump!
  • tjagain
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    BIden needs to stand down and they need to find a decent candidate.  Its one of the things I find weird in politics that parties choose as leader poor candidates.  Hilary Clinton was a poor candidate, Biden is, Corbyn was, Sunak, Truss, both are. 

    Surely the Democrats can find a better candidate?  there must be able folk with good appeal in the party?

    nickc
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    But the problem is that persuading successful (to have got there in the first place) incumbent politicians to step aside ain’t that simple as all your examples demonstrate really. 

    convert
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    BIden needs to stand down and they need to find a decent candidate. Its one of the things I find weird in politics that parties choose as leader poor candidates. Hilary Clinton was a poor candidate, Biden is, Corbyn was, Sunak, Truss, both are.

    Surely the Democrats can find a better candidate? there must be able folk with good appeal in the party?

    This topic came up in the News Agents podcast yesterday. Interestingly, once you do some data digging whilst Kamala Harris is not that popular with democratic voters generally, the poles suggest she is popular enough to win the safe democrat states still but crucially is more popular than Biden in the swing states and would currently beat Trump in the presidential race.

    somafunk
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    Just another nail in the coffin as our western world view withers on the vine, with the rise of the indo pacific states and china we are heading into a new era 

    tjagain
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    this made me laugh

    The book also contains a priceless anecdote about an exchange between then president Trump and the former German chancellor Angela Merkel. Following the engagement, he bragged to a Republican congressman, who promptly shared the story with Karl, that Merkel had gone out of her way to compliment Trump over the large crowds he attracted at his rallies.

    “She said she could never get crowds like that,” Trump is reported to have gloated. “In fact, she told me that there was only one other political leader who ever got crowds as big as mine.”

    Karl notes drily that the congressman was left wondering whether Trump had any idea of the individual to whom Merkel was alluding. “Which would be more unsettling: that he didn’t or that he did?” the author writes.”

    hightensionline
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    That made me shudder.

    mattyfez
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    I’m not if sure Hitler drew crowds in, or enforced them, maybe a bit of both. Either way, it’s not a good boast for an ex-president of the USA currenlty facing multiple fraud charges amongst other things.
    I’m faily confident Merkel thought of Trump much the same as any half intelligent person would…’what a total knober’.
    I don’t actually think any European leaders ever gave him any credit..it was just a case of lip service for diplomacy.

    piemonster
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    Anyone got any takes on yesterday’s results?

    thols2
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    Anyone got any takes on yesterday’s results?

    Swing voters are key to winning elections. Policies that your base demands but that alienate swing voters will lose elections.

    vlad_the_invader
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    Swing voters are key to winning elections. Policies that your base demands but that alienate swing voters will lose elections.

    Let’s hope so…(applies both sides of the Atlantic)

    franksinatra
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    I know how wrong it is, I know she is ugly inside. I know I should be ashamed. But I can’t help it, I find Ivanka quite hot.

    On a less disgusting note, I would seriously put money down on Trump being president in 12 months time.

    tjagain
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    ugly outside as well.  Looks like a barbie doll.   No facial expressions bar a sneer.  she looks like she would melt if you put a flame to her.

    MoreCashThanDash
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    I was surprised how old she is now. Her face seems frozen in time.

    piemonster
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    I know how wrong it is, I know she is ugly inside. I know I should be ashamed. But I can’t help it, I find Ivanka quite hot.

    Youre allegedly not alone, heres what Donald himself had to say…

    “Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that prompted Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,” writes Miles Taylor, a former chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trumps-lewd-talk-about-daughter-ivanka-in-front-of-white-house-staff-recalled-in-new-book/

    Poopscoop
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    ^^ Yuck, Trumps one odd character on so many levels.

    CountZero
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    I was surprised how old she is now. Her face seems frozen…

    FTFY

    Not entirely sure why some are demanding that Biden be removed, seeing that the American economy and jobs have improved significantly under his watch, despite everything that the lying tangerine turd keeps claiming.

    I hope tantrum toddler has all of his statement properties confiscated, including his golf course in Scotland, and ends up in solitary confinement for most of the rest of his life.

    frankconway
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    There is clearly a defective gene in the trumps which affects their memories.

    Yes, I know they are all 100% defective but the memory problem must merit lobotomies all round.

    tjagain
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    count – because of the polling that shows he is ot popular, too old an there is no enthusiasm for him and that Trump would win an election now

    ratherbeintobago
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    Surely the Democrats can find a better candidate?  there must be able folk with good appeal in the party?

    There are people out there by all accounts, problem is that many of them would be strong candidates in 2028 rather than now. Anyone know what’s happened to Beto O’Rourke who was being talked up four years ago?

    pk13
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    You have to hand it to the court sketch artist Screenshot_20231108-193043

    Macgyver
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    imageWell, that’s my Christmas presents sorted 😳

    thols2
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    I’m actually surprised that any hotel kept the Trump branding this long.

    tjagain
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    Trump jr on the stand

    Trump Jr is talking very quickly and excitedly.

    :😜🤣

    frankconway
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    Talking rapidly and excitedly – he’s been at the marching powder.
    Will be interesting to see if the amnesia which he displayed when responding to prosecutors has now cleared up.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Indeed.  Newspaper code same as ” tired and emotional”  or my fave from private eye ” discussing Uganda ” for bonking who you shouldnt

    futonrivercrossing
    Free Member

    Fortunately it’s down to the judge Engoron to decide how much credibility to give the evidence.

    Poopscoop
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    Just for lols the judge should look at Junior and say he is requiring him to have a mandatory drug test, there and then… Just to see his face. 😁

    CountZero
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    I caught a post on Twitter, (X) earlier that said a bank is talking about foreclosure on Mar A Lago! If they do, that might be all it takes to cause the Toxic Toddler to have a coronary! Or a stroke. 🤡 

    frankconway
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    If only there was some truth in that; I very much doubt there is.

    CountZero
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    I’ve just found an update from Snopes, who’ve done a fact-check, and they’ve listed it as satire. Bugger, I was so hoping it would be true. *sigh* 😕

    tjagain
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    Its unlikely to be foreclosed on but he could lose control of it if the NY case goes badly.  It is not a residence officially but a members club and cannot be and he only has the ability to live there as an employee of Trump corporation or what ever its called. 

    Its all very complex but newsweek ( and I do not know how reliable that entity is) is saying he could lose control

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mar-lago-fraud-trial-testimony-1842357

    vlad_the_invader
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    It is not a residence officially but a members club and cannot be and he only has the ability to live there as an employee of Trump corporation or what ever its called. 

    I can’t see any official, anywhere in Florida, trying to evict him though. Unfortunately 😕

    frankconway
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    shermer75
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    thols2
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    Is he really that stupid?

    dantsw13
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    Honest question – is that legal?

    funkmasterp
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    Damn it! Opened again hoping he was dead.

    nickc
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    Honest question – is that legal?

    The judge as appointed an auditor to run Trump’s businesses while they decide how much to fine him, and decide whether they are going to take away his business licences, Trump is supposed to tell the auditor what he’s doing all the time. So, no it’s not legal for Trump to do that.

    maccruiskeen
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    Honest question – is that legal?

    Depends on ‘quietly’ means without fanfare, ore means ‘secretly’. And also depends on whether ‘caught’ in this context means the auditor happened across the transaction through investigation or was notified and reported as part of their duties. If you are the owner of a company you can move funds to your personal account as a wage, – pay yourself for the work you do for the company, as a ‘dividend’ – your share of the profits before tax, or as a ‘directors loan’ – ie the company loans you money and you have to pay it back. Directors Loans can go in either direction as directors might sometimes loan their company money to assist it also. All those things are fine so long as they are documented, and the company can actually afford to do them. So you can’t take out dividends greater than the pre-tax profits that leave the company unable to pay its tax bill for instance. Theres also the question as to who other than Trump owns the company – he can only take out dividends relating to his share of the profits also if you pay out dividends to one shareholder you have pay out the proportional profits to all the others at the same time.

    nickc
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    There’s a court appointed auditor whom they have tell if they move more than $5M from anywhere to anywhere else, so there’s that.

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