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  • Donald! Trump!
  • thols2
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    There is little to no evidence that normally voting americans are switching allegiances or just not voting.

    Trump was a 7-point drag on GOP candidates in close races.

    We can now quantify Trump’s sabotage of the GOP’s House dreams

    thols2
    Free Member

    This is a Murdoch owned paper.

    jodafett
    Full Member

    What’s Trump’s campaign slogan going to be this time?

    ‘Follow the Loser?’

    “Make America Great and Glorious Again” or MAGAGA for short. I think he’s resorted to trolling himself now!

    thols2
    Free Member

    There is little to no evidence that normally voting americans are switching allegiances or just not voting.

    In Georgia, which used to be a fairly safe Republican state but has been a swing state for the last few elections, the youth turnout dropped sharply this year compared to 2018, back down to where it was in 2014. Those young voters tend to favour Democrats so the Democrat success this time around has not been due to a high turnout of young people, it’s because older voters stopped voting for Republicans.

    MSP
    Full Member

    It should also be noted that the Georgia turnout was a record for a midterm 20% higher than the 2018 midterms, and given that it is so close it has had to go for a runoff, that would indicate that the Republicans haven’t lost votes, but both parties have increased their total number of votes.

    https://www.georgiavotes.com/

    And while playing around with percentages might look like the young vote didn’t turn out, actually they did.

    https://www.walb.com/2022/11/16/young-voter-turnout-georgia-second-best-three-decades-center-says-vsu-program-encourages-voting/

    However the biggest demographic increase in “new” voters appears to be black voters.

    So that still doesn’t indicate that “moderate” established republican voters are being flipped to Democrat, but again that the normally disenfranchised are the deciding factor.

    BruceWee
    Full Member

    or MAGAGA for short

    Sounds like the noise you would make if you were sucking a penis and started to choke*.

    *What I imagine it would sound like.

    RoterStern
    Free Member

    What I imagine it would sound like.
    Is that because you never choke? 😉

    willard
    Full Member

    Sounds more like something Popeye would say

    benpinnick
    Full Member

    And while playing around with percentages might look like the young vote didn’t turn out, actually they did.

    Which is why the first proposal from the newly republican house will be to raise the voting age to stop all those pesky under 21s ruining it for the republican party everyone who values freedom

    thols2
    Free Member

    The problem for Republicans is longer term. A lot of younger people have been turned off by Trump and the Republican party. Even if they aren’t voting now, they will probably vote in increasing numbers in the next few decades and the old white voters will die off. If the Republicans can’t find a way to increase their share of those millennials, they will just end up a regional party catering to rural voters but locked out of congress and the White House.

    nickc
    Full Member

    Haha, I  think of Republican’s being entitled Boomers in a restaurant…”Hello, I’d like to speak with some-one please, this election is not what I ordered, something’s the matter with it, I want to see the manager”

    verses
    Full Member

    The problem for Republicans is longer term. A lot of younger people have been turned off by Trump and the Republican party

    This recent Louis Theroux show was a bit of an eye opener regarding younger right-wing voters in the US;
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0014khc

    Again it shows that it’s the extremes that are being appealed to rather than the more moderate

    nickc
    Full Member

    regarding younger right-wing voters in the US

    Interestingly I just saw this on Twitter, Nick Fuentes was very much behind Trump, and was at the Capitol on Jan 6th. Seems that not all young right white white supremacists are that impressed with Trump running again

    MoreCashThanDash
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    Well, if he wants to stay out of prison for either keeping classified documents, insurrection or tax fraud he has no choice.

    Going back a day or so, can someone clarify this point – if he’s running then some of the legal action against him gets put on hold?

    nickc
    Full Member

    My understanding is that it effectively becomes a race. If Trump can spin out all the legal action he’s facing and delay it for a couple of years, then [if he becomes President] he’s home free for another four, with all the legal help that the president can call upon to defend himself.

    dissonance
    Full Member

    if he’s running then some of the legal action against him gets put on hold?

    Its not legally required to outside of a window right before the actual election (even that I think is just strong advice though).
    However the various prosecutors may decide to put them on hold/treat it more carefully.

    IHN
    Full Member

    with all the legal help that the president can call upon to defend himself.

    FWIW, White House legal counsel can only defend the Office of the President, not the President personally.

    frankconway
    Full Member

    MCTD – I can’t answer your question but did posit recently that standing for GOP nominee would be likely to slow or otherwise impact (some of) the investigations and that may have been a consideration in his announcement.

    MrSmith
    Free Member

    What’s the thinking/reasoning behind the “the war wouldn’t have happened if i was president” narrative?
    he obviously assumes he has massive influence on his own without Nato and thinks arming Ukraine is a waste of money.
    was he going to have a word in putins ear and the problem go away?

    MSP
    Full Member

    What’s the thinking/reasoning behind the “the war wouldn’t have happened if i was president” narrative?

    He will spout any bullshit that inflates his ego, there is rarely any logic behind it.

    Personally I think the divisions in the west caused by the Trump presidency and Brexit emboldened Putin in invading Ukraine.

    thols2
    Free Member

    Going back a day or so, can someone clarify this point – if he’s running then some of the legal action against him gets put on hold?

    He would probably try to sack any federal prosecutors working on the case and launch counter-investigations against his enemies. He would probably also use pardons to buy off any witnesses and maybe try to pardon himself. Not saying he can legally do all that, but I’m pretty sure he’d try.

    What’s the thinking/reasoning behind the “the war wouldn’t have happened if i was president” narrative?

    He’s a bullshitter who makes outrageous claims that are beyond factchecking.

    nickc
    Full Member

    FWIW, White House legal counsel can only defend the Office of the President, not the President personally.

    Yep, I’m absolutely certain that Trump and the people around him that enable him  will observe those legal niceties.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    Ungular Merkel 😀

    Fox calling it “Trump Derangement Syndrome!”

    thols2
    Free Member

    Millions of single ladies gonna change their party affiliation now that Trump’s back in, apparently.

    piemonster
    Full Member

    That Nick Adams account is weird, he’s either a few cucumber slices missing from a sandwich, or he’s using a “character” to drive engagement.

    dissonance
    Full Member

    That Nick Adams account is weird

    Surely if you are an Alpha Male! you wouldnt need to announce it.

    thols2
    Free Member

    That Nick Adams account is weird, he’s either a few cucumber slices missing from a sandwich, or he’s using a “character” to drive engagement.

    He’s just misspelled “incel male”, that’s all.

    willard
    Full Member

    Unless it is one of the most amazing tongue in cheek parody accounts ever.

    But, is missing the “parody” tag, so likely just an incel.

    scuttler
    Full Member

    Thrilled to see Trump still pointing at people in the crowd. I wanna see him do that little dad dance thing again when he’s on the road in Chikenfuch, PA.

    somafunk
    Full Member

    I wanna see him do that little dad dance thing again when he’s on the road in Chikenfuch, PA.

    He did the trump two step bum shuffle at his last public event, reminded me of a mates kid who used to pull his his nappy off and scrunch his fists up whilst hopping from leg to leg whilst shitting on the floor.

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    Not seen this mentioned yet – presumably intended to distance Biden and the Democrats from the investigation. Not sure the Maga crowd will care.

    Anyone more informed got any opinion

    BBC News – Special counsel Jack Smith to oversee criminal investigations into Trump
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63684546

    tjagain
    Full Member

    It removes the excuse of ” its politically motivated” Seems a sensible move to me.

    duckman
    Full Member

    “Mates kid” soma? So it was….😉

    Del
    Full Member

    It doesn’t matter the optics of any prosecution. Trump will play the victim irrespective of any of that. It’s ‘the regime’ trying to shut him down.

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    Trump will play the victim irrespective of any of that.

    Its such as strange schtick isn’t it – “I’m the greatest, I’m the bestest, I’m the winningest, I’m the richest, we’re so strong, they’re so weak, help me help me everyone, its all so terribly unfair, send me money quick”

    shermer75
    Free Member

    Its such as strange schtick isn’t it – “I’m the greatest, I’m the bestest, I’m the winningest, I’m the richest, we’re so strong, they’re so weak, help me help me everyone, its all so terribly unfair, send me money quick”

    Like an abusive relationship I guess

    dissonance
    Full Member

    Its such as strange schtick isn’t it

    The victimhood culture is strong amongst those who he wants to appeal to so its not a bad tactic.

    Northwind
    Full Member

    The trump dance should be all anyone needs to see to decide not to vote for him. It’s not just that it’s shit- though of course, it’s really shit. It’s that he thinks it’s the best dance ever. That’s his entire personality right there.

    But it’s also an almost perfect weathervane, because there’s people that love it, and as far as I can tell those people all thing it’s great entirely because trump thinks it’s great. As long as he pulls the right face and other people are cheering they’d applaud him doing a jobby in a box.

    dissonance
    Full Member

    Surely if you are an Alpha Male! you wouldnt need to announce it.

    It’s a really long thread so I might have said this before in it, but, the best thing of all about the “alpha male” thing is that there’s not really such a thing as an alpha male wolf. It’s a wrong theory that only came about because observing wolves in the wild used to be really hard, so the studies were done in zoos. In nature, a normal functioning wolf pack is generally led by an experienced parent wolf- very often a female- and the pack will often drive out or kill anything that acts like the stereotypical “alpha”. But in a zoo, aggression and muscle are rewarded while cleverness, effective pack and food management and succesful social interactions aren’t, because it’s a completely unnatural and compressing environment. That sort of dysfunctional, antisocial behaviour does appear in nature but almost always in a failing pack or one that’s been severely disrupted by human intervention.

    So if you say you’re an alpha male, you’re boasting that you live in a cage and only interact with other people that live in cages, and saying that makes you better than people that live in and succeed in civilisation. And funnily enough it’s the same for humans- “alpha” characters generally only succeed in weird dysfunctional situations like prisons, gangs, broken families and badly run companies

    frankconway
    Full Member

    …has had his twitter ban rescinded.
    How long before the outpouring of verbiage resumes?

    mattyfez
    Full Member

    …has had his twitter ban rescinded

    They really are desperate for new users! Hahah!

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