There is little to no evidence that normally voting americans are switching allegiances or just not voting.

Trump was a 7-point drag on GOP candidates in close races.

We can now quantify Trump’s sabotage of the GOP’s House dreams

Posted 2 months ago

This is a Murdoch owned paper.

NY Post: Florida Man Makes Announcement —> story deep inside on page 26. pic.twitter.com/rccr3OcD1P

— Christine Romans (@ChristineRomans) November 16, 2022

Posted 2 months ago

What’s Trump’s campaign slogan going to be this time?

‘Follow the Loser?’

“Make America Great and Glorious Again” or MAGAGA for short. I think he’s resorted to trolling himself now!

Posted 2 months ago

There is little to no evidence that normally voting americans are switching allegiances or just not voting.

In Georgia, which used to be a fairly safe Republican state but has been a swing state for the last few elections, the youth turnout dropped sharply this year compared to 2018, back down to where it was in 2014. Those young voters tend to favour Democrats so the Democrat success this time around has not been due to a high turnout of young people, it’s because older voters stopped voting for Republicans.

We now have *fully completed individual level administrative vote history* in Georgia – it seems like there was a substantial drop in relative turnout among young people, with 2022 seeing relative turnout rates much closer to 2014 than to 2018. https://t.co/S60rR582Nt pic.twitter.com/FdCr8Qh1yf

— (((David Shor))) (@davidshor) November 16, 2022

Posted 2 months ago

It should also be noted that the Georgia turnout was a record for a midterm 20% higher than the 2018 midterms, and given that it is so close it has had to go for a runoff, that would indicate that the Republicans haven’t lost votes, but both parties have increased their total number of votes.

https://www.georgiavotes.com/

And while playing around with percentages might look like the young vote didn’t turn out, actually they did.

https://www.walb.com/2022/11/16/young-voter-turnout-georgia-second-best-three-decades-center-says-vsu-program-encourages-voting/

However the biggest demographic increase in “new” voters appears to be black voters.

So that still doesn’t indicate that “moderate” established republican voters are being flipped to Democrat, but again that the normally disenfranchised are the deciding factor.

Posted 2 months ago

or MAGAGA for short

Sounds like the noise you would make if you were sucking a penis and started to choke*.

*What I imagine it would sound like.

Posted 2 months ago

What I imagine it would sound like.
Is that because you never choke? 😉

Posted 2 months ago

Sounds more like something Popeye would say

Posted 2 months ago

And while playing around with percentages might look like the young vote didn’t turn out, actually they did.

Which is why the first proposal from the newly republican house will be to raise the voting age to stop all those pesky under 21s ruining it for the republican party everyone who values freedom

Posted 2 months ago

The problem for Republicans is longer term. A lot of younger people have been turned off by Trump and the Republican party. Even if they aren’t voting now, they will probably vote in increasing numbers in the next few decades and the old white voters will die off. If the Republicans can’t find a way to increase their share of those millennials, they will just end up a regional party catering to rural voters but locked out of congress and the White House.

Posted 2 months ago

Haha, I  think of Republican’s being entitled Boomers in a restaurant…”Hello, I’d like to speak with some-one please, this election is not what I ordered, something’s the matter with it, I want to see the manager”

Posted 2 months ago

The problem for Republicans is longer term. A lot of younger people have been turned off by Trump and the Republican party

This recent Louis Theroux show was a bit of an eye opener regarding younger right-wing voters in the US;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0014khc

Again it shows that it’s the extremes that are being appealed to rather than the more moderate

Posted 2 months ago

regarding younger right-wing voters in the US

Interestingly I just saw this on Twitter, Nick Fuentes was very much behind Trump, and was at the Capitol on Jan 6th. Seems that not all young right white white supremacists are that impressed with Trump running again

Trump's 2024 campaign is not off to a great start as MAGA cultist/white nationalist Nick Fuentes declared his announcement speech to be "one of the worst things I've ever seen in my entire life": "This was awful. It's hard to imagine how it could have been worse." pic.twitter.com/xe9JTjS7Xw

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 16, 2022

Posted 2 months ago

Well, if he wants to stay out of prison for either keeping classified documents, insurrection or tax fraud he has no choice.

Going back a day or so, can someone clarify this point – if he’s running then some of the legal action against him gets put on hold?

Posted 2 months ago

My understanding is that it effectively becomes a race. If Trump can spin out all the legal action he’s facing and delay it for a couple of years, then [if he becomes President] he’s home free for another four, with all the legal help that the president can call upon to defend himself.

Posted 2 months ago

if he’s running then some of the legal action against him gets put on hold?

Its not legally required to outside of a window right before the actual election (even that I think is just strong advice though).
However the various prosecutors may decide to put them on hold/treat it more carefully.

Posted 2 months ago

with all the legal help that the president can call upon to defend himself.

FWIW, White House legal counsel can only defend the Office of the President, not the President personally.

Posted 2 months ago

MCTD – I can’t answer your question but did posit recently that standing for GOP nominee would be likely to slow or otherwise impact (some of) the investigations and that may have been a consideration in his announcement.

Posted 2 months ago

What’s the thinking/reasoning behind the “the war wouldn’t have happened if i was president” narrative?
he obviously assumes he has massive influence on his own without Nato and thinks arming Ukraine is a waste of money.
was he going to have a word in putins ear and the problem go away?

Posted 2 months ago

What’s the thinking/reasoning behind the “the war wouldn’t have happened if i was president” narrative?

He will spout any bullshit that inflates his ego, there is rarely any logic behind it.

Personally I think the divisions in the west caused by the Trump presidency and Brexit emboldened Putin in invading Ukraine.

Posted 2 months ago

Going back a day or so, can someone clarify this point – if he’s running then some of the legal action against him gets put on hold?

He would probably try to sack any federal prosecutors working on the case and launch counter-investigations against his enemies. He would probably also use pardons to buy off any witnesses and maybe try to pardon himself. Not saying he can legally do all that, but I’m pretty sure he’d try.

What’s the thinking/reasoning behind the “the war wouldn’t have happened if i was president” narrative?

He’s a bullshitter who makes outrageous claims that are beyond factchecking.

Posted 2 months ago

FWIW, White House legal counsel can only defend the Office of the President, not the President personally.

Yep, I’m absolutely certain that Trump and the people around him that enable him  will observe those legal niceties.

Posted 2 months ago

Ungular Merkel 😀

Fox calling it “Trump Derangement Syndrome!”

Posted 2 months ago

Millions of single ladies gonna change their party affiliation now that Trump’s back in, apparently.

Of everything that never happened, this never happened more than anything pic.twitter.com/Q14l1OkaPX

— Adam Kinzinger #fella (@AdamKinzinger) November 16, 2022

Posted 2 months ago

That Nick Adams account is weird, he’s either a few cucumber slices missing from a sandwich, or he’s using a “character” to drive engagement.

Posted 2 months ago

That Nick Adams account is weird

Surely if you are an Alpha Male! you wouldnt need to announce it.

Posted 2 months ago

That Nick Adams account is weird, he’s either a few cucumber slices missing from a sandwich, or he’s using a “character” to drive engagement.

He’s just misspelled “incel male”, that’s all.

Posted 2 months ago

Unless it is one of the most amazing tongue in cheek parody accounts ever.

But, is missing the “parody” tag, so likely just an incel.

Posted 2 months ago

Thrilled to see Trump still pointing at people in the crowd. I wanna see him do that little dad dance thing again when he’s on the road in Chikenfuch, PA.

Posted 2 months ago

I wanna see him do that little dad dance thing again when he’s on the road in Chikenfuch, PA.

He did the trump two step bum shuffle at his last public event, reminded me of a mates kid who used to pull his his nappy off and scrunch his fists up whilst hopping from leg to leg whilst shitting on the floor.

Posted 2 months ago

Not seen this mentioned yet – presumably intended to distance Biden and the Democrats from the investigation. Not sure the Maga crowd will care.

Anyone more informed got any opinion

BBC News – Special counsel Jack Smith to oversee criminal investigations into Trump
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63684546

Posted 2 months ago

It removes the excuse of ” its politically motivated” Seems a sensible move to me.

Posted 2 months ago

“Mates kid” soma? So it was….😉

Posted 2 months ago

It doesn’t matter the optics of any prosecution. Trump will play the victim irrespective of any of that. It’s ‘the regime’ trying to shut him down.

Posted 2 months ago

Trump will play the victim irrespective of any of that.

Its such as strange schtick isn’t it – “I’m the greatest, I’m the bestest, I’m the winningest, I’m the richest, we’re so strong, they’re so weak, help me help me everyone, its all so terribly unfair, send me money quick”

Posted 2 months ago

Its such as strange schtick isn’t it – “I’m the greatest, I’m the bestest, I’m the winningest, I’m the richest, we’re so strong, they’re so weak, help me help me everyone, its all so terribly unfair, send me money quick”

Like an abusive relationship I guess

Posted 2 months ago

Its such as strange schtick isn’t it

The victimhood culture is strong amongst those who he wants to appeal to so its not a bad tactic.

Posted 2 months ago

The trump dance should be all anyone needs to see to decide not to vote for him. It’s not just that it’s shit- though of course, it’s really shit. It’s that he thinks it’s the best dance ever. That’s his entire personality right there.

But it’s also an almost perfect weathervane, because there’s people that love it, and as far as I can tell those people all thing it’s great entirely because trump thinks it’s great. As long as he pulls the right face and other people are cheering they’d applaud him doing a jobby in a box.

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Surely if you are an Alpha Male! you wouldnt need to announce it.

It’s a really long thread so I might have said this before in it, but, the best thing of all about the “alpha male” thing is that there’s not really such a thing as an alpha male wolf. It’s a wrong theory that only came about because observing wolves in the wild used to be really hard, so the studies were done in zoos. In nature, a normal functioning wolf pack is generally led by an experienced parent wolf- very often a female- and the pack will often drive out or kill anything that acts like the stereotypical “alpha”. But in a zoo, aggression and muscle are rewarded while cleverness, effective pack and food management and succesful social interactions aren’t, because it’s a completely unnatural and compressing environment. That sort of dysfunctional, antisocial behaviour does appear in nature but almost always in a failing pack or one that’s been severely disrupted by human intervention.

So if you say you’re an alpha male, you’re boasting that you live in a cage and only interact with other people that live in cages, and saying that makes you better than people that live in and succeed in civilisation. And funnily enough it’s the same for humans- “alpha” characters generally only succeed in weird dysfunctional situations like prisons, gangs, broken families and badly run companies

Posted 2 months ago

…has had his twitter ban rescinded.
How long before the outpouring of verbiage resumes?

Posted 2 months ago

…has had his twitter ban rescinded

They really are desperate for new users! Hahah!

Posted 2 months ago