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  • Donald! Trump!
  • tjagain
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    If you read the definitions / symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder its a pretty much perfect fit

    dudeofdoom
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    He’s a bullshitter. To lie you actually need to know what the truth is. A bullshitter is unconcerned about the truth. Trump only lies when he’s been caught bullshitting.

    I think most of his symptoms can are the result of underlying wealth issues.

    I think your right 🙂

    GrahamS
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    Well written opinion piece on the dangers of the science-denying Christian Nationalism that props up Trump:

    somafunk
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    Anyone currently watching trumps press briefing?, he’s getting riled by the questions from the “fake news” correspondents and he looks ready to blow up

    MrOvershoot
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    He’s also blaming Obahma.

    Trump blames Obama for lack of pandemic prep

    Pressed by a reporter over why the US was not more prepared for the pandemic, Mr Trump blamed the Obama administration, saying “the shelves were empty, we had no ammunition or medical supplies”.

    He also claimed he inherited “broken” tests, though it is unclear what he meant as the previous administration would not have developed such tests.

    “I always knew that pandemics are one of the worst things that could happen,” Mr Trump said.

    somafunk
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    He’s just engaged full trump mode

    CountZero
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    Pressed by a reporter over why the US was not more prepared for the pandemic, Mr Trump blamed the Obama administration, saying “the shelves were empty, we had no ammunition or medical supplies”.

    He also claimed he inherited “broken” tests, though it is unclear what he meant as the previous administration would not have developed such tests.

    “I always knew that pandemics are one of the worst things that could happen,” Mr Trump said.

    Trump deliberately starved the CDC of funding, and removed people from research areas, he basically emasculated the whole operation, he even had a CDC member removed and returned to the US who was liaising with and working with the Chinese in Wuhan, and sending reports back home, giving vital initial info that the Chinese weren’t releasing, so then the US was pretty much in the dark as to how C19 was spreading.
    I say again, the man is almost certainly guilty of presiding over what will likely become the greatest loss of civilian lives in the US since 1918.
    While blaming everybody but himself.

    Northwind
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    I think he balanced all that out though by putting his completely unqualified son in law in charge, that showed real leadership

    Kuco
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    The bloke only seems to have a 30-second memory. Constantly denies things he’s said or has insinuated, constantly berates reporters who are obviously highly educated yet speaks to them like a spoilt 5-year-old.

    CountZero
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    If you read the definitions / symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder its a pretty much perfect fit

    Read something about that ages ago, may even have posted about it in the very early days of this thread; I think I saw a list of twenty indicators, and The Impeached One ticks the lot!
    This piece of graffiti, clearly an homage to Banksy, popped up recently, it made my day when I spotted it…

    dyna-ti
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    Too egotistical, so won’t do anything. He’s pretty much waiting for the final death toll to come in then look about for someone to blame.

    bruneep
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    Northwind
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    Holy balls

    maccruiskeen
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    RustyNissanPrairie
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    Someone please shoot him

    CountZero
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    Someone please shoot him

    Honestly, if I heard he’d been assassinated, I’d be out front applauding and letting off fireworks! I genuinely feel he’s just too dangerous to be allowed to carry on as President! What I posted earlier about him being comparable to Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot regarding the number of his own people whose deaths he’s going to be directly responsible for is something I genuinely believe, and history will not be kind to him, or anyone associated with him.

    He’s pretty much waiting for the final death toll to come in then look about for someone to blame.

    It’s clear from earlier comments he’s already starting to blame Obama…

    reluctantjumper
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    So with mass burials in New York and the infection count, therefore the death toll too, running pretty much uncontrolled in the US how is Trump going to escape this?
    How are the poor without health insurance going to get help?

    He’s in real danger of overseeing a massive amount of damage to the whole country and as far as I can tell he’s trying to bluff his way through it by buying untested medicines, making silly ‘jokes’ about him doing a good job and lambasting the media stories he doesn’t like as his usual ‘fake news’. He can’t survive this into another term surely?

    piemonster
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    He can’t survive this into another term surely?

    Hopefully not.

    But I have my concerns regarding the power of pre-existing political bias among the electorate.

    MoreCashThanDash
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    If any good can come from the likely horrendous death toll of this pandemic, it might make the easily led rethink their voting strategy to look beyond media hype, on both sides of the Atlantic.

    But I fear it won’t

    If the Democrats can’t win by pointing out who got rid of the pandemic planning committee last year, Gold help America

    alanl
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    His Supporters dont seem to see the real World, and blame the virus on the ‘liberals’ or non believers.The virus has affected, mainly, the Democratic states, so he isnt bothered. His support comes from the barely literate (my opinion) population in the Country which are, mainly, insulated from outside events as they live far enough away from other people, with less population movement in their areas.
    He comes up with the most blatant lying statements, yet TV interviews show his support truly believe him.
    The whole administration is crooked, sacking the USN Captain, stopping help for Michigan, as the Governor there had slightly criticised Trump, allowing Church meetings when all other gatherings are cancelled etc.
    I despair with the USA now.

    tomd
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    One tactic Trump will surely use to get back in is to blame the Chinese.

    He’s made a huge thing of China bashing to date. His voters like that. It wouldn’t be much of a leap for him to say how he was ahead of the curve on China being a wrong un. He saw it coming etc. Only he will be tough about it.

    This tactic should be fairly robust even with a mounting domestic death toll.

    martinhutch
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    torsoinalake
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    Follow this journalist on Twitter who does a highlights reel of Trump’s daily briefings.

    It is insane. INSANE. And yet I can’t help but feel Trump is going to win the next election.

    maccruiskeen
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    He’s made a huge thing of China bashing to date. His voters like that.

    deadlydarcy
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    I listened to a cracking podcast the other day. It’s show 153 of Matt Forde’s Political Party series. The guest? Anthony Scaramucci! Yep, the Mooch himself. No great love lost between himself and Trump so it’s pretty brutal, but a cracking listen. Spotify link below.

    inkster
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    Deadlydarcy.

    Yes, I’ve been checking up on the Mooch as well, he’s been way ahead of the curve on this one, both with the dangers of the virus and the omnipresent economic dangers.

    It was from him that I got my head round the idea of Corporate Socialism, the thing I’ve been banging on about on the ‘We’re all in this together yeah?’ thread. Not as good as him at selling the idea though! Still, that ‘ain’t going to stop me. 😎

    inkster
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    More Cash Than Dash.

    The really crazy thing is that the Pandemic Planning Comittee was set up by George W Bush.

    Apparently, back in 2005 as New Orleans was drowning he began setting up a program to prepare for potential pandemics. He read a book about the Spanish Flu whilst on holiday and became obsessed by it. When he came back from his hols he wouldn’t shut up about it, his coleages thought him a little obsessed and tried to distract him from it. He wouldn’t give up on it and eventually managed to secure 7 billion in funding for the project. (there’s a speech he gave back in 2005 on you tube) Both Obama and Trump failed to keep up the stock levels of equipment as it either got used up or went out of date. It’s said that much of the material the US does have to fight the Pandemic is from what’s left over from the stockpile Bush set up.

    Who’d have thunk?

    MoreCashThanDash
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    Inkster – interesting, thanks for that.

    sargey
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    Last night’s press conference, pushes jaw back up.
    He turned a virus update into a campaign rally about how good he was handling things and how many lives he has saved.
    Any reporters who ask nasty questions get scolded like naughty children then ignored.
    Grim times indeed.

    binners
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    He’s madder than a bucket of spiders!

    last nights ‘performance’ was absolutely off the scale

    I’m sure Boris and every other world leader are thanking the lord that Trump is around, as the world’s population breathes a collective sigh of relief and says “well it could be worse. We could have that unhinged maniac in charge”

    nickc
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    watched edited highlights. I find it both utterly amazing and depressing at the same time that networks in the US are having to either highlight to their viewers that anything Trump says needs careful fact checking or is just downright lies or cutting away when the briefing gets too partisan and obviously campaign based

    sharkbait
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    Words fail me TBH.

    This must be the lowest point in US politics and that really is saying something.

    franksinatra
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    I watched it last night and it was like video surfing on LiveLeak. You know it is wrong and slightly sick watching it but you can’t help watching. It was stunning in its lunacy.

    He ranged from being in campaign mode to attacking media to being totally incoherent and rambling. The fact that he is in any job, let alone a position of power, is incomprehensible.

    MSP
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    The trouble is that while Trump is clearly an unhinged narcissist, the democrats will be compliant in granting him another term in office.

    The people are crying out for someone, anyone who will have a positive impact on their lives, someone who will follow through on rhetoric with integrity. And instead of listening, the democrats are putting up against him a billionaire sponsored beige plank with dementia.

    I hate Trump with a venom, but if I was in America right now I would be thinking, another Trump term might (just might) cause a reaction at the next election. But Biden just guarantees the billionaires and the corporate lobbies remain in power for generations.

    yourguitarhero
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    Anyone got a link to highlights? Even with all this time on my hands I ain’t watching him for 2 hours

    MoreCashThanDash
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    Jon Sopel on the BBC news site has put together an interesting article on that news conference. He says he’s been at some stunning press conferences over the years but last night’s was “special”

    Kuco
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    CNN has some clips of it. All I can say is he’s lost the plot.

    frankconway
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    It was a shocker.
    Sopel’s article gives a flavour of how truly appalling it was.
    When trump cannot provide a direct, fact-based answer – as is often the case – he immediately resorts to personal insults; ‘you’re a truly horrible person’ has become his current favourite.
    The use of a crudely put together ‘infovid’ was depressing with multiple quotes by journos being taken completely out of context; it was nothing other than campaigning and is one of the reasons news stations cut away from his presser.
    If he is not re-elected it is absolutely certain that multiple lawsuits will land very quickly as the US statute of limitations is 5 years; those lawsuits might need a little topping and tailing but will be substantively ready to go now. I expect the Southern District of New York to be first out of the blocks.

    Northwind
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    That conference might have been the most bizarre but it definitely wasn’t the worst, since he managed to avoid recommending people take random medication, and didn’t suggest that coronavirus is adapting and changing in response to medical treatment.

    RustyNissanPrairie
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    I’d like to see Jacinda Ardern receive the Nobel Peace prize or be promoted to global supreme leader or some such and Donald Trump being imprisoned or assassinated – not bothered either way.

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