Donald! Trump!

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  • Donald! Trump!
  • amedias
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    Quite a lot of lashing out, angry words, and accusations from the orange one over the last 24hrs, he’s clearly very rattled.

    willard
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    I feel sorry for the Finnish PM. He had to put up with a lot of ranting when they were doing a joint conference. It’s a good job that they are, as a nation, so polite and reserved.

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    I feel sorry for the Finnish PM.

    I feel sorry for the 16 year old Swedish girl that the president has told the world he doesn’t want to ****.

    5thElefant
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    I feel sorry for the 16 year old Swedish girl that the president has told the world he doesn’t want to ****.

    I hope nobody asks Bill Clinton for his opinion.

    CountZero
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    Christ, Agent Orange just can’t stop himself:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-publicly-calls-on-china-to-investigate-bidens/2019/10/03/2ae94f6a-e5f2-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html

    If this doesn’t tip things over for an impeachment, it’s difficult to see what could.

    There has to be a tipping point beyond which Trump will lose the support of a few GOP Senators,become even more unhinged over it, and the penny will finally drop with the GOP establishment that he’s on the way out, at which point his support will melt away.

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    I think the public call for China to investigate is ploy to say nothing is hidden and he is being upfront and ‘honest’…
    Smoke and mirrors.

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    There has to be a tipping point beyond which Trump will lose the support of a few GOP Senators

    When the polls start showing that his support has dropped , when it reaches 30% the Two senator s will start abandoning him, it needs 20 to flip to impeach him

    That said his base are resilient, trump revels in it, the more he rolls himself in shit the less he seems to care

    Impeachment requires a simple majority in Congress, which the Democrats already have. After that, there has to be a two-thirds majority in the Senate to remove him, which is where GOP flippers come into play.

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    He’s past the point of no return now. Demonstrably mentally unstable. Terrifying to think he could launch nuclear weapons

    25th Amendment time…unbelievable

    ‘my great and unmatched wisdom’…totally unhinged.

    Couldn’t he just chuck Pompeo, or someone else under the bus as a distraction, rather than the Kurdish people?

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    I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!)

    Who’s economy is he imagining he has ‘totally obliterated’ previously?

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    maccruiskeen

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    Who’s economy is he imagining he has ‘totally obliterated’ previously?

    His own casinos?

    Premier Icon pondo
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    Certainly many contractors he employed to build things, before bankrupting himself to avoid paying them.

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    So what he’s basically threatening to do is… move to Turkey?

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    Hopefully the orange one is just trying to deflect attention from his tax returns again?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49963910

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    ‘my great and unmatched wisdom’

    He’s gone full on Oz.

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    He’s gone full on Oz.

    I was re-reading William Burrough’s essay ‘Sects and Death’ recently about the mechanisms for creating a cult

    “If you want to start a cult, the first step is to get your voice into the non-dominant brain hemisphere of your soon-to-be devoted followers. The Scientology course involves listening to hours of L.Ron Hubbard’s voice on tape. The voice of Dederich, founder of Synanon, was said to drift from the air conditioning system, and Reverend Jim Jones had tapes of his voice continually broadcast over loudspeakers at Jonestown.”

    It sort of seems that Trump’s twitter feed is the same

    hels
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    It’s proper butterfly net time. Sadly if he appeared on TV with his undies on his head his supporters would probably still vote for him. Scary days.

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    He’s either just having a laugh, seeing how much ridiculous language he can get away with (knowing he can pretty much get away with anything), or he really is deranged. It’s like he’s trying to sound like a crack-pot dictator

    andy8442
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    His impeachment gets closer.The distraction gets louder. He could actually be smarter than we think. But he’s not though, but he’s still in power.

    amedias
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    so now he’s just refusing to co-operate, not sure that’s going to end well, and certainly not a good look.

    sharkbait
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    And now Turkey launches air strikes against Syria.

    Trump you tosser.

    alanl
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    Not, Syria, but they are targeting Kurds in Syria, who have been our allies for the last 10 years+.
    There is FA the rest of the world can do about it, apart from moan, as Trump gave them the go-ahead.
    He is a terrible leader, who , given a chance , would gladly start WW3.
    Luckily, I think most of the rest of the World are not up for it, so will keep their mouths shut until Trump has gone.

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    He is a terrible leader, who , given a chance , would gladly start WW3

    I’m not sure even he is that mental, I’ll give him the benefit of that doubt, but he’s sure stupid enough to do it by accident.

    Klunk
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    the trouble with the US (regarding warfare) is the sheer size of their armed forces, Trump has increased spending by as much as the total Russian defense budget. There comes a point when you have to justify that spending which usually means going to war with somebody.

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    The bloke behind desperately trying not to shake his head and roll his eyes. 🙂

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    Take the orange prick outside now and **** beat the absolute shit out of him till he’s a lump of meat,

    Us special forces give their opinion on the kurds

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    He also had a really wise thing to say about the US diplomat’s wife accused of knocking a lad off his motorbike: “She was on the wrong side of the road.. that can happen. We have our system they have their system..” Unbelievable.

    piha
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    He is a terrible leader, who , given a chance , would gladly start WW3.

    I am no Trump fan but I don’t think you can accuse him of being a warmonger. He has backed down from conflict with Iran, submitted to talks with North Korea, pulled troops from Afghanistan and now deserted the Kurds. Not the actions of someone that wants to start WWIII.

    ‘Defense’ spending up, as I’m sure it is a vote winner in the USofA.

    BillMC
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    Trump Tweet “United States has already taken the 2 ISIS militants tied to beheadings in Syria, known as the Beetles”

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    Trump justifies abandoning the Kurds: “They didn’t help us with the Second World War. They didn’t help us with Normandy”

    He’s doing the David Lammay ‘I’m just reporting what people are saying…’ thing. He precedes that statement about Kurdish hill tribes neglecting to help launch a seaborne invasion into occupied France from England  with ‘Somebody wrote…..’

    He forgets to say who wrote it or where of course.

    If he was passing this off as his own opinion he’d use the phase “Not a lot of people that….” which is Trump’s code for “I’ve only just learned that… <insert revelation that Uranium is used to make nuclear bombs or similar statement of the blindingly obvious>”

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    now deserted the Kurds. Not the actions of someone that wants to start WWIII.

    which has just reignited the same conflict

    he also seems to be doing Putin favour after favour after favour….

    tjagain
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    Putin has to get his quid pro quo somehow!

    amedias
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    transcripts from yesterdays Minnesota rally are pretty appalling 🙁

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    His stupidity and crassness continues to amaze me (ref: attempted ambush meeting at the Whitehouse), you just know he’s surrounded by people too afraid to challenge him on ideas he gets and he’s too dumb to realise how dumb his ideas are.

    binno
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    Partially prompted by this thread, I’ve been looking to further my understanding. If you’ve time, I highly recommend looking into historian Timothy Snyder and his take on the current political situation. Outside of his books there’s lots of in-depth lectures online. This one isn’t a bad place to start, giving some of the ground work before addressing the current effects within the US and UK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6glynCBQtgk

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    Ye gods

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