The thing is politics has always been dirty, always been scandal. But now it’s the new hip trend wagon to trump bash. The new saturday night trivial topic. Every politician ever was an asshole and everybody on here knows that.

Don’t be silly.

So we should ignore corruption, blackmailable actions, and possible illegal activity?

I’ve met a number of deeply honerable and trust worthy politicians who are working for the good of people and progress, not everyone has to be an arsehole. Trump promised to drain the swamp, remove corruption, he has only made it worse.

Persoanlly I think it is very important to know the depth and penetration (no not that one) of Russian involvement in the election, that is the main thrust of what is going on.

The actions around Mullers investigation is getting close to a watergate type situation if he tries to overstep his authority, that is news worthy.

Next to that there have been a number of payments tosilence people, there is possible legal implicaions of those to Miss Daniels depending on who authorised them, if laws have been broken charges should follow.

Trump is a big boy, he tells everyone how tough he is, I’m amazed any of this even gets a tiny flinch of a reaction from him.

If not he really shouldn’t be doing the job.

Don’t forget the nepotism.

I reckon it’s time to get the popcorn In as he seems to have got rid of the people holding him back so we should be seeing the full on trump soon.

Persoanlly I think it is very important to know the depth and penetration (no not that one) of Russian involvement in the election, that is the main thrust of what is going on.

Lol, are you still whining about the election being rigged?

Its a fantasy – even Obama admits it:

“There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even — you could even rig America’s elections, in part, because they are so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved,”

🙂

mmm, that was 2016 and I’m not sure anyone would agree anymore that the tools, skills and data are out there to allow elections to be influenced when they are close run.  If interference didn’t work then there would have been no point in taking any action

xxhttps://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/29/us/politics/russia-election-hacking-sanctions.html

(sorry for munging the link but this stupid **** site turns it into a picture that can’t be clicked on rather than just leaving the URL alone)

Lol, are you still whining about the election being rigged?

Who said it was rigged? Are you warming up for another 3 page semantic tantrum?

There certainly seems to be enough to keep Muller occupied and pressing charges

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/robert-mueller-paul-manafort-rick-gates-new-charges-money-laundering-bank-fraud-a8222196.html

along with the guilty pleas it seems that a lot of people who were within the inner circle had non disclosed and illegal contact with the Russian government and money changed hands, I think we would all like to see the full extent of the investigation here.

Back before widespread social media, “rigging” an election required a physical act, usually to try to change the votes in the actual ballot box.

Today, it’s a lot simpler to beam “suggestions” into peoples homes, especially when you target the people you already know are likely to be suggestible to those suggestions!

ie, you flash up an notice to a single mother with “TRUMP BACKS CHILDCARE”

or, to a guy who works in the steelworks “TRUMP PUTS INDUSTRY FIRST”

etc, etc.

And when you do that on a large scale, which with modern tech is easy (ie you send out literally MILLIONS of those notices) the effect is measureable.

Ninny’s obsession with Trump and ‘lefties’ is bordering on the pathological, it seems to me, his blindness to the clear deficiencies in Trump as a person and his ability to actually govern, becomes clearer with every post.

and meanwhile

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43526413

Hundreds of thousands of people are protesting gun in the US

As far as the eye can see photos of young people and teachers killed in school shootings #MarchForOurLives pic.twitter.com/UdSH4jd65F

— Jon Sopel (@BBCJonSopel) March 24, 2018

With opinions shifting it will take some level headed policy and leadership to react to this, there is a big chance if momentum is maintained this will be another huge issue in November,

blindness to the clear deficiencies in Trump as a person

Name me a person without flaws.

You,Ninny.

You are the perfect human paradigm of rigorous intellectual analysis,and rational argument.I feel a little light-headed,I’m just going for a lie-down.

Donald Trump, the man who claims to be Brave and Fearless, who would run, un-armed against a guy with a machine gun.

And yet, runs from a group of school kids who come protesting to his front door………

If it was in Vermont,those kids could be legally carrying concealed handguns,without their parents permission,no wonder he’s scared.

Friday after a head-spinning series of presidential decisions on national security, trade and the budget that left the capital reeling and his advisers nervous about what comes next.

The decisions attested to a president riled up by cable news and unbound. Mr. Trump appeared heedless of his staff, unconcerned about Washington decorum, or the latest stock market dive, and confident of his instincts. He seemed determined to set the agenda himself, even if that agenda looked like a White House in disarray.

Inside the West Wing, aides described an atmosphere of bewildered resignation as they grappled with the all-too-familiar task of predicting and reacting in real time to Mr. Trump’s shifting moods.

Aides said there was no grand strategy to the president’s actions, and that he got up each morning this week not knowing what he would do. Much as he did as a New York businessman at Trump Tower, Mr. Trump watched television, reacted to what he saw on television and then reacted to the reaction.

After Another Week of Chaos, Trump Repairs to Palm Beach. No One Knows What Comes Next. https://nyti.ms/2G7medv

I guess if you ran a business like that it would work really well

Lol, are you still whining about the election being rigged?

Are you still here?

well today’s big journalistic topic should interest a lot of you’s on here today. I dont think ive ever seen so desperate scraping the bottom of the barrel interviews like this before. As i said a few posts up it’s cringey and embarrassing what these democrats are pulling on the american people now.

I dont think ive ever seen so desperate scraping the bottom of the barrel interviews like this before.

Do you not remember in the Obama era there was that utter nutjob who got spent five years getting loads of airtime and coverage by claiming that Obama wasn’t really American and demanding that he publish his birth certificate? (and then claiming it was fake when he did publish it).

Wonder what ever happened to that guy?

I dont think ive ever seen so desperate scraping the bottom of the barrel interviews like this before.

Did you miss all the Fox love-ins with the Donald?

The porn star stuff certainly is cringey, bottom of the barrel stuff, but that’s where we’re at now, it seems. If you potentially have a president who fails to declare election-related expenditure after paying off his flings on the quiet, and perhaps even threatening them to keep quiet, then the American people have to look down into the gutter to see him.

In other news, when even some Media hack lawyer doesn’t fancy representing you, you really do have problems.

As i said a few posts up it’s cringey and embarrassing what these democrats are pulling on the american people now.

What this bit?

*disclaimer: i support no political parties whatsoever, i just want normal news and tv back.

Who said this was democrats? This is accusations of illegal campaign finance, threats, pay offs and hypocrisy. For somebody not on any side you seem to think we should all keep very quiet about this?

This adds weight to a narrative of pay offs and silencing people with issues, and complaints.

This adds weight to a narrative of pay offs and silencing people with issues, and complaints

Like this doesn’t happen in  every department and industry in the whole world?

Like this doesn’t happen in  every department and industry in the whole world?

You saying it’s OK then? What about the campaign finance details above – thats illegal if proven

So your argument is that we should just accept corruption and law-breaking from world leaders because other people do it too?

You don’t think it is important to hold them to account or try to ensure elections are as fair as possible?

Like this doesn’t happen in  every department and industry in the whole world?

Perhaps. But you’re the one who seems to think that alleged payoffs and threats from the ‘Leader of the Free World’* aren’t particularly newsworthy. Like many other people, I find potential criminal activity from a presidential candidate quite deserving of coverage. If that doesn’t float your boat, then I believe the National Enquirer, run by Trump’s pal, is unlikely to be running any of this kind of salacious tittle-tattle, despite paying six-figure sums to secure the rights.

The story is not that he put his bits into a porn star while a private citizen, although that may speak to his character. The story is that he may have financed her silence illegally during an election campaign, and even sent someone to threaten her to keep quiet about it. I’m not that interested in the adultery, that element of his character was readily apparent long before this.

It’s the cover-up that gets you, not the initial event. I mean, what’s so newsworthy about some two-bit burglary involving a bunch of Cubans at some Washington office block?

*other more suitable titles are available.

Also if the saucy revelations are too much just ignore them.

It’s not ok , but what you gonna do. it’s been going on since the beginning of time and will continue to. It didn’t just start when Trump was elected. I’m sure if you scraped around you would find anything on every US congress person since the modern US was formed.My whole argument is that since he was elected in  it’s been a plastering match in every media outlet. I don’t care about facts and figures, i just want this drivel of every airwave and channel until the next election comes along.

 I don’t care about facts and figures

So you are a Trump voter then? 😉

<span class=”skimlinks-unlinked”>My</span> whole argument is that since he was elected in  it’s been a plastering match in every media outlet. I don’t care about facts and figures, i just want this drivel of every airwave and channel until the next election comes along.

Given his attacks on former presidents were continuous he is getting what he deserves, this is part of a much bigger story here, you seem to be missing that. The allegations are very serious and the consequences very high – the details are salacious but that isn’t the point.

Care to add some facts and figures as to how much this is on every news channel?

Good luck with that then

The allegations are very serious and the consequences very high

and the proof remains very absent

more amusingly Trump cant find a lawyer to replace the one he just fired to defend him against the Meuller probe

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-another-blow-to-trumps-efforts-to-combat-russia-probe-digenova-will-no-longer-join-legal-team/2018/03/25/8ac8c8d2-3038-11e8-94fa-32d48460b955_story.html?utm_term=.e3119781cfd0

I think we know where this is heading

and the proof remains very absent

Does it? We have a signed document between Miss Clifford and Trump’s go to layer detailing confidentiality and a payment, she is prepared to go on the record on this – yeah she is willing to admit to sleeping with him, we have proof of the payments so either the lawyer paid from his own pocket because with no prompting he wanted to (bad news for him) or he did it under instruction from Trump (bad news for both) or it was meant to be paid back (bad news for all)

I’m happy for this to be investigated, if it turns out to be false then she should be held to account over that. Don’t you think it’s fair? Or should all allegations against a sitting president be ignored? (Putin/Silvio etc.)

the proof remains very absent

Michael Cohen (Trump’s personal lawyer) admitted paying her off with $130,000

and he negotiated that settlement using a Trump organisation email account.

He claims that he did this on his own, with his own personal funds, without Trump’s knowledge or consent, and was not reimbursed in any way.

Do you honestly believe that?

Is that what American lawyers understand by pro bono work Ninny ?

He claims that he did this on his own, with his own personal funds, without Trump’s knowledge or consent, and was not reimbursed in any way.

Now you put it like that I can’t see how we all got the wrong impression of it all. We should all just ignore anything Trump does that isn’t policy then, right all back to work.

Lets wait to see what lead he takes on gun laws or how his sexual harassment case progress

and a little warning going forward

Claiming Executive Privilege To Avoid Mueller Could Backfire For Trump

Is that what American lawyers understand by pro bono work

Pro boning work, I think.

Is that what American lawyers understand by pro bono work Ninny ?

Might explain why apparently he is having difficulty finding a new lawyer.

Lets wait to see what lead he takes on gun laws or how his sexual harassment case progress

Funny to see that you didn’t suggest we wait to see what effect him being controlled by the Russians has on whether he does anything about Salisbury

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/us-expel-russian-diplomats/index.html