Dogs inside eating establishments

Used to be illegal 

source?

🤣🤣🤣 you just knew tj would be along with a balanced and nuanced take at some point!

I’m in pubs a LOT more often than I should be but I can’t recall the last time I encountered a badly-behaved dog. Maybe the only pubs I choose are actually full of STW readers?

Scotroutes – interesting what defines badly behaved? Barking? Barking when waiter comes/goes?  Barking when another dog arrives?  Rushing up to every new arrival in the pub?  Wandering away from own table to say hello to other customers?   Sniffing around at people on the next table across?  Affectionately wiping its wet chops on the customer at the next table?  Putting paws on other customers?  Leaping around excitedly and knocking over drinks?  Getting in the way of waiters carrying hot food?  Ignoring its owners so that they are shouting at Fido constantly?

I’ve experienced all of those in my life – perhaps its only one bad experience a year – but enough to make me prejudiced!  Definitely worse if there’s more than one dog in the place.   I think a lot of dog owners think that many of those things are part of the charm of their pet.  The “he’s just saying hello” argument.  I quite like a dog and in a quiet country pub would enjoy patting the friendly local dog and some of the things on that list.  If I’m eating dinner – not so much.  Barking / growling not keen.   Its not a problem every time you go somewhere with dogs – but my gut feel is it is worse in the sort of place that campervans etc go – and is worse since covid (more dogs, more people taking dogs “camping”).

As for certain people who call a dislike or fear of dogs irrational – well there were 9,000 people admitted to hospital in 20/21 in the UK for dog bites. Think about that, these are people actually admitted to hospital. 3000 of those needed reconstructive surgery. How many people went to A&E and were simply treated and sent home. How many didn’t even report it and treated themselves?

Winston – I think your point was reasonably but the numbers seem surprising IF “admitted” means kept overnight?  I wonder if that just means were treated at hospital? The 3000 needing surgery also seems huge – that’s basically 10 a day somewhere in the UK – again I wonder if that means “got stitches” or similar?

Live and let live FFS. Unless they’re actually behaving badly in which case complain just like you would if they were kids of football fans.

Which being british means say nothing at the time and then grumble on the internet – hence the thread!

Ha! Tony Robinson will have the last word, he’s quite adept at digging holes.

TJ who? Never heard of him….

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Edit: Doh! Threads moving too fast

Oh and just to call total and utter bollocks on anyone confidently posting facts/figures on dog bites etc.  There is no definitive or accurate data in this area unfortunately (currently working an a research project in this area).

*Oh and just to call total and utter bollocks on anyone confidently posting facts/figures on dog bites etc.*
Has anyone done that?

I’d happily go to an eatery that let owls in.  You’d be a twit not to.

See the quote in the post a few above mine

Checked the law.  Illegal where food is stored or prepared or handled.   This used to be taken as including restaurants dining rooms.   Now its not.

 dogs also stink.  You dont notice because your nose adapts.

I don’t have a dog, so wouldn’t have “adapted”, but I encounter more smelly humans than canines – and that’s before we get on to the subject of douche-flutes and stoners.

 but my gut feel is it is worse in the sort of place that campervans etc go

You campervanist ! Shame on  you

Just back from France last week. Ate in a few restaurants where they had their own restaurant dog! An absolute joy, no one died, everyone who likes dogs had a wee pet of them and the haters ignored them. One place even had a restaurant cat!

Neither my dog nor my children are very well trained, so I try not to assume everybody else wants to get too close, and frankly I enjoy my coffee more without them

I do sometimes have a muddy arse though

@poly – the only one of those behaviours I’ve seen recently* would be a dog barking when another enters and that was only for a few seconds. Of course, I also tend to go to the sort of places that campervanners go.

* and that I can recall given my advancing years 🙂

Dogs have been going to pubs for ever and day. A dog taking it’s owner to the pub in olden times*…

(*may be a modern recreation! 🙂 )

I love dogs… but no longer live with dogs.

That last point is important, because it means I can really smell dogs, in a way dog owners can’t.

So, for me, it’s dogs just inside the door in cafes (better for them as well), wherever you want in pubs (including head on my lap drooling at me… please, bring ’em over to say hello properly)… but anywhere people are out for a proper meal (curryhouse, Italian, whatever)… keep the smells out for the rest of us… pretty please.

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**** dog owners

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What a strange thread

I’ll say this.

The world basically only works with tolerance.

This is a cycling forum. Lots of people hate cyclists. Lots of people justify this hatred by taking examples of poor cyclist behaviour to justify their views on cyclists. I rely on other people’s tolerance to be able to cycle on and off road.

I wonder if the stink is one of those things only some folk can smell?  To me all dogs stink like a pseudomonas infection.  Ie utterly vile and vomit inducing.  Some a little and some a lot but they all stink

Can’t say I can recall the last time I saw a badly behaved dog in a pub/cafe, or even a pub garden. Owners round here seem sensible. One of the best local cafes round here is attached to a kennels next to a popular dog walking route, occasionally a dog will bark at another but they soon settle down.

Admittedly I’m not bothered by dogs.

Hygiene wise, I’d sooner staff stroked a dog rather than touched a high chair. Kids can be foul and I love mine.

Many cafes round us seem to have admitted dogs since lockdown – clearly they make more money from dog owners than they lose from dog haters, and several places are dog free if you want to avoid them.

***Ate in a few restaurants where they had their own restaurant dog! An absolute joy, no one died, everyone who likes dogs had a wee pet of them and the haters ignored them. One place even had a restaurant cat!***

There’s a Cat Cafe in Leeds (with lots and lots of cats) and a Chihuahua Lounge in Harrogate. I am sure there are loads more all over the UK.

Liverpool and [del]Manchester[/del], for starters.

EDIT : Manchester one didn’t survive covid. Shame.

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I wonder if the stink is one of those things only some folk can smell? To me all dogs stink like a pseudomonas infection. Ie utterly vile and vomit inducing. Some a little and some a lot but they all stink

Lola smells of Doritos. Particularly her feet. Delicious

To me all dogs stink like a pseudomonas infection.  Ie utterly vile and vomit inducing.  Some a little and some a lot but they all stink

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