- dodgy sportsmanship in ladies badminton
leggyblonde – Member
I’d have done the same. The Olympics ( or any high level sport) is about maximising chances of a medal. Aus and Ger didn’t exactly pull from the gun in the men’s RR but nobody suggested DQing them, it’s just tactics.
It’s not like they both repeatedly rode their bikes into the crash barriers, is it?Posted 5 years agoIHNMember
I think there is a subtle difference between saving energy for later stages, and actively trying to lose to achieve a different draw in those stages.
It would be easy to solve this kind of thing by doing away with ’rounds’ in the early stages and having straight elimination instead.Posted 5 years ago
I wouldn’t say it’s really comparable, but that’s what you get when you end up with a match situation where it’s more profitable to lose. It’s about winning, not competing, to these players.
Hardly anything the umpire can do either, you end up in a total nightmare situation. Tell them to play properly and the mistakes will just get more subtle, but the rallies still won’t last, as you’ve got to make the mistake before the opponent does.
I’d be proper pissed if I was spectating though. We’ve got semi final tickets though, so that shouldn’t be a problem 😀Posted 5 years agoMrSalmonMember
Not the same as the cycling at all. They should have been disqualified.
I’d have done the same. The Olympics ( or any high level sport) is about maximising chances of a medal.
At the risk of sounding like a Seb Coe soundbite, I’d like to think it’s about something more than just getting a medal any way you can.Posted 5 years agonealgloverMember
They are not playing to lose really if you think about it
Its a tournament, not a single match. So the overall result is what makes the winner.
All they are doing is playing to maximise there chances of Winning overall.
Is it any different from track cycling, sprinters hovering for ages in a tactical battle waiting for the perfect time to attack.Posted 5 years ago
Tactics to increase the overall chance of winning.scaledSubscriber
There’s a load the umpire can do, and in fact did do, he showed one pair a black card and as such DQ’d them, however that was then rescinded!
It was obvious what they were doing but the whole set up of the competition was ludicrous, any team that had won it’s opening two matches didnt need to win their 3rd (roughly) and as such they’re going to play it tactically.
Sucks for the spectators that want to see a competition but the fault at the end of the day has to lie with the authorities that put in a tournament that was so obviously open to ‘abuse’
If we’re equating it to other sports then imagine a swimmer that’s already swam the qualifying time being asked to race another heat…Posted 5 years ago
If we’re equating it to other sports then imagine a swimmer that’s already swam the qualifying time being asked to race another heat…
Or if Murray had got into the final 4, and then had to play someone to decide who he played in the semi, and he just hit balls into the crowd the entire match to avoid Federer until the final.Posted 5 years agogonefishinMember
Whilst I completely disagree with it, is it similar to a team (e.g. football) who have already qualified with a game to go playing a sub standard squad to rest key players?
There is a huge difference between not trying very hard and trying to lose on purpose to gain an advantage.Posted 5 years agothisisnotaspoonMember
Perhaps the US basketball team should be DQed for not playing 100% in games against weaker teams too or saving their stars for the later games.
No they’re (allong with the german cyclists) trying to get a win with the minimum effort either by saving their good players for harder matches, or saving their sprinter for the finish. The badminton players were deliberately trying to lose a game.
Should all be DQ IMO.Posted 5 years agoIanMunroMember
I think it’s unfair to blame the players.Posted 5 years ago
The idea is to win – otherwise why have medals.
If your chances of winning are improved by loosing, then not attempting to loose would mean that your not committed to the goal of winning a medal.
IMO the retards who designed such a dumb ass system that this could happen should be stuck in the lime-light and booted out rather than the teams just trying to maximise their chance of winning.freddygMember
Disqualify them. They took the Olympic Oath and then reneged upon it:
“In the name of all the competitors I promise that we shall take part in these Olympic Games, respecting and abiding by the rules which govern them, committing ourselves to a sport without doping and without drugs, in the true spirit of sportsmanship, for the glory of sport and the honour of our teams”.Posted 5 years agobreatheeasyMember
Don’t really like the ‘spirit’ of what they were doing but I can understand what they were.
Suppose it’s akin to a runner running slightly slower so he/she can get into a weaker semi final where, say, the first four go through to the final. It’s just in a sport like badminton you have to lose a point rather than just jogging round that last 33% of the lap.
I’d always assumed leagues were there so weaker nations at least got a couple of games rather than getting stuffed in the first round.Posted 5 years agokcrMember
The objective is to win the gold medal, not”entertain” people because they paid a lot of money for their seats. The teams were just using the most effective strategy within the rules of the competition. It’s not their fault if the competition structure is flawed.Posted 5 years ago
Charging them with not trying is just daft. How do you measure “best efforts”? Would it have been OK if they won by 5 points? Or only one point? Or if they only just lost? At what point would you draw the line for an acceptable level of effort? You can’t. There is only win or lose.
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