Do I want a fat bike or need a fat bike?

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  • Do I want a fat bike or need a fat bike?
  • Premier Icon molgrips
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    After yesterday’s filth fest I just hosed off the chain ,lubed it and now it’s ready to go again.

    The same could be said for any bike, that’s not really a fatbike thing.

    donkeydave
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    Ok so still massively undecided, this is a massive long shot and a big ask, anyone in the West Midlands area that would be willing to let me try there fat bike?, really do not want to waste my money if I do not like it prefer to save up and buy a 27.5 or 29er but that is a new thread!
    Thanks all

    Premier Icon big_scot_nanny
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    Not wanting to page anyone, but I think Rocketdog is in your neck of the woods?

    Premier Icon phil56
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    What size do you need?

    Premier Icon rickmeister
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    You do know that a 26″ wheeled Fatbike is an effective 29’er considering the rolling circumference of a fatbike tyre…

    Yes you need one. But with a fork for trail riding.

    Painey
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    Yes you need one. But with a fork for trail riding.

    Agreed. Also, if I stick my fatbike next to my 29er hardtail, the overall circumference of the fat bike tyres are noticeably bigger. That’s 4.4″ jumbo jims compared to 29×2.35 specialized purgatory grid.

    There’s a large Canyon Dude for sale on ebay at the moment. I have one and love it.

    Premier Icon canopy
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    I was on a 26er and nearly went fat bike early last summer.

    i was looking at the dune and a variety of variants. Its a maze of varying BB standards and mess of cranks and q-factor. that kind of put me off. lots of the secondhand market dune’s can have either shoddy or nice upgrades on (like theres one hard to get race face crank that fits).. seems like the chainrings on stock ones are not good. i was purely considering this as a +1 bike, a toy. not a replacement.

    i ended up waiting, and luckily for me my work bonus timed up with when i decided a fat bike was off the table, and i doubled my budget to 1k. i was set to get a marin hawk hill (rrp 1200, but findable under 1k new) to replace my ageing santa cruz superlight. (i also looked at the bossnut and didnt like and is also prone to this reverse snobbery phenom.) in looking for that i came across a deal on a marin b-17 and did some reading about 27.5+. rrp for the b-17.1 then was 1799 (its now 1700) and i got it for 1299.

    mid fat/plus is great, its fun. its not a fat bike though but does get rid of trail chatter while adding tonnes of grip. most 27.5+ bikes can take 29er wheels so i’ve added a 29er wheelset and swap between the the two depending what kind of riding i’m doing. 29er wins out for longer XC style rides as the weight and drag of plus does get noticeable. its like having 2 bikes for one and both still fun.

    OP you havent said what you ride, what type of rides you do?

    I’d say get whats fun, but also consider how much you’d use it and whether this is an extra bike or “the one to rule them all”.

    donkeydave
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    Hi all and thank you very much for the messages back, I would need a medium in pretty much anything!.

    Lots to think about and research and probably a million more questions that need answering.

    The kind of riding I do mostly is straight out the door road, bridleways, cheeky trails and have been known and would like to get back into going to trail centres (god forbid!), also would not mind dipping my toe back into fun xc type racing so I suppose a 29er might be better.
    But as said before something to get my mojo back and get me out there.

    Premier Icon rickmeister
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    There is a great spec carbon full suss lefy fork fatbike on Pinkbike right now to suit a rider up to 5’8″ and a very good price.

    No stealth ad, its not me selling

    whitestone
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    @donkeydave – General consensus on the Dune, and there’s a very very long thread on here about it (fat bike for under £1k), is that it’s a good bike for the money. I’ve not had one but know a couple of people who have and it’s more than good enough for a supplementary bike. Of course at that price point there are going to be compromises and it’s not going to be up to the standard of a £3K carbon framed top of the line bike but that’s an unfair comparison.

    Bottom brackets, cranks, axle/dropout sizes: these went through a bit of an evolution. Dropouts went from the Pugsley’s 135mm front and rear to what might be considered the current “standard” of 150mm front, 197mm rear. BBs are pretty much all 100mm shell width (with the usual threaded vs press-fit shenanigans) but there’s two standards for cranks: one for 170mm rear spacing and one for 197mm.

    It’s actually quite simple: fat gives the most smiles per £.
    Don’t take it too seriously. Until you are with others at the bottom of a steep slippery climb that normal bikes cannot look at. Plus, as others have said so many times, on cheeky trails, slippery roots, off camber mud and slow speed techy, twisty descents, it’ll give you a huge grin, more so than any normal bike. I’m lucky to have options but for so many rides, it’s the fatty that comes out of the shed first.

    letitreign
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    I never really understand why people think there rubbish on normal trails, this stigma about only being any good on snow or sand is rubbish IMO.
    They are like any other MTB, have the correct tyres on and buy a decent brand/model and they are a total blast on the trails, climb really well and bounce down the descents, lots of fun and they don’t hang about either!
    I really regret selling mine, but personal reasons got in the way.

    Just get one, make sure it’s one with front suspension though, so you’re going to get the most out of it on any kind of trail/terrain.

    Premier Icon monkeysfeet
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    Fatty rider here.
    Bought a Salsa Mukluk from Merlin when they were on offer, fitted some Mastodon forks.
    I love it. I also have a 29er hard tail which hasn’t seen daylight for months.
    I live in the lakes so ride it all around, trail centers natural rocky stuff. It really is ace. The amount of grip from the tyres is amazing. And that is the thing..tyre pressure is really really important. I run mine with tubes at about 10-14 psi. This seems to be a sweet spot otherwise I found the tyres a bit “wandery” and would be a pain to steer.
    Try one. If you go to Keswick you can hire an efatty!! Think how much fun that would be…

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    I never really understand why people think there rubbish on normal trails,

    I did two rides on one, with varying pressures, and I found it bouncy as hell. I didn’t find that particularly fun. I still want one, but I still think it’d be less fun on singletrack descents.

    czthompson
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    I decided I didn’t need a fatbike and then bought one just before the snow.. It was fab, now just need to get out as test it in ‘normal’ conditions. I have a feeling it’s going to quickly become my favourite bike..

    whitestone
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    10-14 psi

    Is not a sweet spot where fat tyres are concerned, that’s like saying a nuclear bomb is a precision weapon. If you’d said 10-10.5psi then fair enough but a 40% range, no. Usual starting point is 1psi for every 10kg of your dressed weight.

    Hard trails I’ll run 8-8.5psi but for loose or soft terrain I’ll drop that to 6psi, soft snow might be 4psi, never ridden proper powder but that might be 2psi or less.

    Premier Icon LAT
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    I like my fat bike. I’ve not ridden it in summer, but I plan to this year.

    Personally, I wouldn’t have gotten one if I didn’t live in a snowy place as Id have just spent the money on an even more expensive summer bike. That shouldn’t stop you buying one. As some one said above, buy used and give it a go. If you don’t like it, punt it on.

    One word or warning, you will never look at a normal mtb Tyre again and think it looks anything but dangerously narrow.

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