Do all sportives get this kind of hammering by the locals?
came up fast and silently from behind
On a more serious note, get a pro campaign going, invite the MP to the event.
Sponsored walks and the sort bugger up trails for decent riding, round here Sunday’s are a write off for walking groups of 40+ bimbling oaps who on a track where 2 cars can pass don’t/won’t make space for a bike, but so be it, its all just part of getting along.Posted 4 years agocinnamon_girlSubscriber
Is it really any different to any other events, including mtb? People get inconvenienced and my personal opinion is that events should not allow so many participants.
The New Forest though? Nuff said after the ghastly horse riders we encountered a few years ago!Posted 4 years ago
I live on the London2Brighton route and last year there was a bit in our local paper from someone in the next village bitching and moaning about the disruption. I think/hope she was ignored/buried due to her being new/an idiot.
..and last time I did said ride, a load of us got shouted at by a moose because we were disrupting her “shopping day” 🙄Posted 4 years agomindmap3Member
I’m not local but it does sound a bit pathetic.
As a country we”re forever being told that we’re all fat, inactive and are going to die early because of obesity etc. But when people try and put events on, they come up against opposition. Surely after the cycling success we had last year as a nation, increased participation in such stuff should be encouraged?
Those objecting, are totally ignoring the benefits of all the people there staying in b&b’s, eating out etc.Posted 4 years agomaxtorqueMember
An immense risk? ok, lets see the figures. I’m pretty sure that crashing into a horse the bike rider is going to come of worse than a ton of beefburgers! Also, they complain that motor bikes etc are “too noisey” for the countryside, and now MTB’s are too quiet? Perhaps if you had proper control of an animal that gets spooked and throws it’s rider into a hedge because it caught a glimse of a plastic bag it didn’t like the look of!
Lets just get along shall we, there’s plenty of space still for everyone, we done need ridiculous histrionics based on no real facts meaning yet more paper work, red tape and costs etc!Posted 4 years ago
I suspect if it was called a ‘Sky Ride’ and had Brad and Cav leading it round the locals would fall over themselves with fawning.
I did the mtb one, frankly it wouldn’t have been a challenge on my cross bike so I won’t go back but there’s normally so many cyuclists bimbling about in the summer that even a thousand more for a few hours one mornign does seem not much to make a fuss about.Posted 4 years agoneilc1881Subscriber
Was in a road race once where we came round a bend face to face with 3 horses,one bolted and many nerves were frayed*. The race was neutralised until horse, rider, and racers were reunited into their appropriate groups. It is big ask to put 2000 riders which equates to a near constant stream of riders onto the public highway. At least with a RR the breakaway or 2 and peloton (perhaps 120 riders) pass without a mass of disruption. I would argue that there is greater impact by a sportive, so yes they should have to tick the right boxes to ensure safety of riders and the general pulic.
Cost is a tricky one, I know that these sportives cost a great deal more than your average RR, I would think that Sportives are a whole lot more profitable than BC races, hence why very few RRs are attracting these corporate sponsors/organisers. If anyone can afford policing costs it would be Wiggle, not the small local road club of 30 riders who decide to put on a race on their local roads.
*I am in danger of sounding a bit anti-bike here. I do have my opinion on what should happen to horse riders who are unable to control their animal while surrounded by vehicles who are legitimately using a public highway/bridle way. But I don’t think I can repeat it here.Posted 4 years agoFieldMarshallSubscriber
Looking at the route map, it looks like it will be coming right past my house.
Might have to nip out early and swap a few signs around. 😉
I’ve also got some rotten fruit that I need to get rid of. 🙂
I’ve never got my head round the whole sportive thing. Why would you pay good money to ride on public roads, crammed in with 100s of other people. Each to their own.
However, as a “local” I dont have a problem with this, after all it’s only a couple of days a year, the roads will still be open, it brings in revenue and might inspire others to get out and ride. But 2000 does seem like a lot of participants on some of the more narrow roads.Posted 4 years agoMSPSubscriber
It’s amazing how sportive’s, cycle races, triathlons and running races are welcomed by towns and villages here in Germany. They are very much seen as part of the process of promoting the area and bringing in people to spend money with local businesses.
And now New Forest East MP Julian Lewis, has written to transport minister Norman Baker calling for such events to be subject to the same licensing regulations as road races and time trial events currently are.
Maybe cyclists should start writing to the MP and minister pointing out how great the Olympic legacy (so trumpeted by their party*) can be demonstrated by increased participation in such events, and how exercise increases health and happiness, which is surely a worthy political goal.
*I just assume that the MP for the New Forest would be a tory.Posted 4 years agoneilc1881Subscriber
Yes, it will bunch up and there will be gaps, but the flow of traffic will surely be more impacted upon, perhaps even more so by the choice of 3 routes as it becomes harder for drivers to find an alternative route.
Again, I don’t mean to sound completely anti-bike, I think this type of mass – appeal event are important for the cycling community, I just don’t want to see us alienated from the wider public due to what can be seen as quite selfish behaviour ( I gave up training rides with my local road club as many of them were keen to keep the 2-abreast through and off going despite riding at times on roads which were single-carriageway with blind crests, corners and mud to contend with, not my idea of fun with farm traffic about).Posted 4 years ago
http://road.cc/content/news/80494-hampshire-mp-calls-licensing-new-forest-cycling-events?fb_action_ids=10151599675013524&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=timeline_og&action_object_map=%7B%2210151599675013524%22%3A358751327576985%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151599675013524%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5DPosted 4 years agoscaredypantsSubscriber
Happy memories of getting chased by ‘marshalls’ around the cheeky trails, from the day the family moved there, to the day I moved out of home (folks still live there)
really ? I’ve never been chased 🙁
I did my bit on Monday – asked 2 horsey groups well in advance of overtaking whether their horses were OK with bikes. Meant I had to slow down marginally but one of them did have a nice bum (the horse that is, not the tubby biffers on top 😉 )Posted 4 years ago
slightly ironically, they promote bike rides on their site;Posted 4 years ago
We’ve got the Wiggle New Forest sportive happening up the road this weekend. Its a great event which takes cyclists through quiet lanes around the forest. However the anti-cycling lobby have a load voice (and persons in prominent positions) locally, and every year it gets a right lambasting in the press.
This years its being described as causing a ‘no-go zone for other forest users’,
Dr Tony Hockley, of the New Forest Equestrian Association (NFEA), said there was “immense risk” to horses and riders, especially when cyclists came up fast and silently from behind
And now New Forest East MP Julian Lewis, has written to transport minister Norman Baker calling for such events to be subject to the same licensing regulations as road races and time trial events currently are. So this could affect all similar events to be crippled by policing limitations and costs, insurance costs etc – making them less viable to run.
Talk about blatant Nimbyism. He won’t be getting my vote (like he ever did). In fact I feel a letter coming on.
Does this happen elsewhere too? Or is it just a New Forest reaction?Posted 4 years agoconvertSubscriber
I’m surprised they don’t need to tick some sort of box to get the ok to run the event. Doing so would not definitely mean vast costs with police etc (no police presence at any time trial I’ve even been too). Just a useful health check (maybe via British Cycling) that the event is being run with safety and continued acceptance being prioritised over making a fast buck. An event with 600-700 riders might create minimal negative press locally and be welcomed back year after year but only make mediocre profits. Organisers unchecked might well put 2000 on the same route to maximise profits even if it does royally piss off the locals. Jam today and all that.Posted 4 years agoormondroydMember
but the flow of traffic will surely be more impacted upon, perhaps even more so by the choice of 3 routes as it becomes harder for drivers to find an alternative route.
Oh dear. What a shame. Perhaps people in cars might have to be a bit patient in their bid to get to the back of the next queue.Posted 4 years ago
lilchris – Member
(a sportive is a race)
I thought not. Insurance ‘n all that….
It’s a bunch of people riding a course who get a time and results are printed in order of fastest to slowest. It’s a race if it wasn’t there would be tea and cake stops every 10km.
In general there is angry whinge bag *******s and there is genuine concern. If there are issues they need addressed locally by the organiseers rather than a slanging match. The key to running events is local support.Posted 4 years ago
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