How many people in this thread have young children with asthma type problems and live in a city

Genuinly interested as it seams all our grand kids from the city have breathing problems.

According to Wikipedia VW (and other brands) petrol TSI engines

“Huge rise of number of emitted exhaust particles”
Wiki

So now Petrol engines are bad for particulates.

That stuff about boats is all very well, Squirrelking except that you are talking about an insignificant number of ships that have any pollution control at all. the vast majority are registered in places with no standards whatsoever. They run on high sulphur heavy fuel oil with no scrubbers. In towns like Marseille the cruise ships are the biggest source of particulate pollution when the wind is in from the habour. There’s just one cruise ship with all the depollution equipment in use and hundreds emitting yellow smoke.

TSI engines are worse for particulates so the manufacturers are introducing particle filters on them too. Engines won’t meet E6c requirements without them anyhow.

So what we’re now saying is that the fossil fuel consuming tin boxes are a bad thing?
Multiply that by how many of us use them, and we have an issue.

Who would have guessed?

What MOAB says. At the end of the day the Car industry lurches from one pollution driven sales scam to another. 4 Star to Unleaded, Unleaded to Diesel, Diesel to small Unleaded turbo’s, that to Electric.

Each is a leap in marketing and Sales drive, yet each has relatively little impact on the planet compared to City, Air and Industrial pollution. Individuals in here justifying move to Hybrid and Electric should look at the environmental cost of thier vehicle production, real MPG and source of thier ‘leccy.

Its certsinly far from cut and dried fuel vs fuel. Reduction in emitting vehicles is the highest impact.

Each is a leap in marketing and Sales drive, yet each has relatively little impact on the planet compared to City, Air and Industrial pollution. Individuals in here justifying move to Hybrid and Electric should look at the environmental cost of thier vehicle production, real MPG and source of thier ‘leccy.

That may be true on a global scale, but in this country, diesel vehicles are dominant source of poor local air quality.

Anyone read the beeb article on air pollution in the Alps today? Wood burners – burn them, err oh 😕

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39115829

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How many people in this thread have young children with asthma type problems and live in a city

Genuinly interested as it seams all our grand kids from the city have breathing problems.

My younger child has asthma – we live in a city.

Unfortunately car is king, need a massive shift in public perception but even as car dislikers we find it’s hard not to get sucked in and alternative transport provision is woeful at the best of times 🙁

Edukator – MARPOL laws are international, flag registration has nothing to do with it. And if cruise ships are running heavy in port I’d be very surprised, even when I was working on the ships ten years ago heavy was banned anywhere near land, most of the EU coastline is a special area in one capacity or another. Heavy has also been de-sulphurised for years now, unless you’re buying the absolutely worst bunker fuel made from sludge then I doubt the smoke is any indicator of chemical makeup.