Dented aluminium headtube on new to me frame. can it be fixed?
My hope would be that it would remove the dent before stretching the head tube too much to fit the cup.
I have the tool, if you are near Kirkcaldy youd be welcome to try it.
I’m not sure if you would need to heat the dent first though. Someone on here is bound to know.Posted 4 years agomikewsmithSubscriberhaggis1978 wrote:
Am ongoing with that one. Guys claiming he didn’t insure it to the full amount for posting. I foolishly thought that everyone posting a frame insures it for the full value. And he used MyHermes! Aaargghhh!!! Paypal dispute ongoing though.
Apologise but in the hands of the sender, they have supplied you something not as described, didn’t package correctly and didn’t insure. Hopefully not your problem.Posted 4 years agod45ythMember
if you would need to heat the dent first though.
The frame will have been heat-treated. You want nothing trying heat it up…it will alter the properties of the material and/or distort it.
The reason steel is popular for touring frames is because they can easily be repaired (unlike aluminium).
EDIT: I’d have more confidence in boring the headtube out and removing the material stopping the headset from going in. May sound extreme, but would cause less damage than anything else. Of course, doing that would depend on how much material would remain in the dented area.Posted 4 years ago
So a frame arrived in the post the other week. Packaging left a lot to be desired to say the least. Spesh Epic basically just thrown in a box with sod all packaging resulting in a dented head tube and now there’s no chance a headset is fitting in it. I’ve had the frame at Clarkston Cycles in Glasgow (in house framebuilder) and they say its goosed but just wondering if anyone else has experienced this and had it fixed. I thought maybe a Bob Jackson or Argos could apply a bit of heat and reshape it maybe. Any thoughts as I’m sure I’ve heard of someone having this type of damage fixed before? I would say the dent is about 3mm in depth from where the inner diameter of the head tube should be. CheersPosted 4 years ago
BTW OP- if you are tempted to take a discount and sort yourself. I looked into headtube damage on a Commencal once. Talked to a fair few people. For the impact to be soo strong there will be damage. Think of this- the headtube takes a lot of stressed- hits the trail first/leverage etc etc through the forks.
At somepoint it’d develop a hairline crack.Posted 4 years ago
Thankfully didn’t pay for it with PayPal gift. The guy is claiming it was the courier services fault for mishandling it but it was basically just dropped in the box with a couple of bits of newspaper along the bottom. Def do not intend on touching it till I know for sure what’s going on. Communication with him has been a bit sketchy and he’s trying to make out I’m the bad one because I raised the PayPal dispute without giving him enough of a chance to sort it out with the courier company. Knowing how bad myhermes are though having had dealings with them in the past I’m just trying to cover my arse here. I paid £400 for a frame over 3 weeks ago and he might as well have sent me empty coke cans!!Posted 4 years agobreatheeasyMember
The guy is claiming it was the courier services fault for mishandling it but it was basically just dropped in the box with a couple of bits of newspaper along the bottom.
Sellers responsibility to liaise with courier to get compensation, not yours.
Personally I wouldn’t try to ‘fix’ it. Lay one finger on it and then you’ve got no comeback from the seller.
Now, do you send it back without adequate packing and insurance?! 😛Posted 4 years agoSTATOMember
That could have easilly happened in transit, thrown form a van with end of box onto floor, full weight of frame onto headtube = dent. TBH id be happy to repair and ride it as long as there is no crack. Id not be paying £400 for it tho. So full refund, possibly followed by discussion with seller to retain frame for small amount (£80-100?).
Dont forget, you will have to send frame back to him at some point if you get refunded, suggest you arrange (insured!) and properly package it, with numerous photos to prove it. Last thing you want is him claiming damage when he gets it back!Posted 4 years agop8ddyMember
I’d agree with most of the above – its the sellers issue.
If you get stuck with the frame – is it so badly deformed that the dent couldn’t be knocked out a little and then use the headset itself being pressed in to properly reshape?
A load of years ago my mate dropped his new atx990 frame on its head denting the head tube – I worked in the bike shop he bought it from. As a stop gap until a new front end arrived we knocked the dent out *very* carefully and let the headset press do the fine tuning. It ran that way for years, doing dh and with boxxers on the front. Not saying that’ll always be the case, but if you’re stuck?Posted 4 years ago
Communication with him has been a bit sketchy and he’s trying to make out I’m the bad one because I raised the PayPal dispute without giving him enough of a chance to sort it out with the courier company. Knowing how bad myhermes are though having had dealings with them in the past I’m just trying to cover my arse here. I paid £400 for a frame over 3 weeks ago
I’d just follow it through the paypal route. If he wants the frame back he arranges collection. If someone had messed up and really tried to help etc/lots of emails I’d post back at my own cost.
However if shes being sketchy on emails and its dragged on for 3 weeks he can arrange its collection etc IMO. Just take lots of pics with you packing it. Then into the same box and email him the pics saying here it is/packed and ready for collection. He then can’t send you a pic back with ‘look its poking through the box’ bollocks.
Do you ‘owe him anything’?
1. You are out of pocket/without a frame to build etc
2. The stress and hassle (lack of emails etc)
3. Your time
4. Sounds like a dick (STW’er by chance?)
Its not your fault he cut corners. When I send a frame I use plumbing copper pipe foam covers zip tied all over the frame etc as I don’t want to risk it.Posted 4 years agothisisnotaspoonMember
I usualy put a bit of pipe lagging arround the seatube, then make a sling out of ductape to hold the frame agaisnt the back of the box so that the headtubes no resting on the end for just that reason.
Only thing I’ve had damaged in the post was some manitou forks which got dropped hard enough to snap off the rebound adjuster which I’d not concieved as possible!Posted 4 years ago
Question for the STW massive. As the frame is now worthless i dont think theres any point in insuring it when i return it but do i package it correctly or just leave it back in the box the way he sent it to me but take better pictures of it in my house maybe beside a copy of that days newspaper to show damage was clearly done before i sent it back?Posted 4 years ago
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