Dark chocolate is a “joy” when it comes to keeping your heart healthy, coffee is likely protective, but wine is at best “neutral”, according to one of the world’s leading cardiologists.

Just need to quit red wine and drink chocolate flavoured coffee instead….

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/19/good-or-bad-top-cardiologist-gives-verdict-chocolate-coffee-wine

Pffft – an expert writes…
Now, where’s the corkscrew?
Got to get rid of the taste of that coffee and dark chocolate.

I get worse hangovers from dark chocolate than I do from red wine. I prefer the wine.

What?? Last time I saw the cardiologist she said 2 bottles of red between 2 over a weekend is perfectly fine.
I have gone hard on lentils, pulses, oats, stanols etc. Wine stays.. surely?

I have gone hard on lentils, pulses, oats, stanols etc. Wine stays.. surely?

I like lentils as much as the next man, but not quite that much!

I read “neutral” as carry on as it not doing you any harm

I saw the cardiologist she said 2 bottles of red between 2 over a weekend is perfectly fine.

You know that you’re supposed to allow the other person to drink some, not just put the bottle between you?

The final two paragraphs of that article are the most important:

Tracy Parker, a senior dietician at the British Heart Foundation, said: “To keep your heart healthy, a healthy lifestyle is what really matters rather than how much coffee, chocolate or alcohol you consume. That means getting regular exercise, giving up smoking and eating well.

“When it comes to our diet, it’s the balance of your whole diet that has the most impact. Try to eat more of the good stuff like fruit and vegetables as well as wholegrains, beans, nuts and seeds, and less of those foods high in salt, sugar and saturated fat like cake, biscuits and sweets.”

IANAD but I do read & write about this stuff for a living (and get doctors to check my work).

I have gone hard on lentils, pulses, oats, stanols etc. Wine stays.. surely?

I like lentils as much as the next man, but not quite that much!

Probably thinks hedge porn is pictures of naked plants

So the conclusion is dark chocolate and coffee aren’t too bad as you, not s bad as bad as red wine. However, all is fine in moderation, not exactly ground breaking.

@Yak Whatever floats your boat, anything with a pulse?

I thank you.

Ahem. Speciality stuff. Hedge porn?….nah organic field porn is where it’s at 🙂

anything with a pulse?

I read “neutral” as carry on as it not doing you any harm

Or another bottle can’t do any real harm…..

I read “neutral” as carry on as it not doing you any harm

Reaches for corkscrew.

But a nice 70% piece of dark choccy does go well with a nice coffee thou.

And a dash of frangelico to give it a kick 😉

Frangelico – mmmm…

So the conclusion is dark chocolate and coffee aren’t too bad as you, not s bad as bad as red wine. However, all is fine in moderation, not exactly ground breaking.

Yep, I always have a giggle as Granny DoD was 95+ when she shuffled off this mortal coil,one of her usual staples was that lard with the sludge on top you could get from some butchers smeared all over white bread. I’m pretty sure the other things were anything that you could cook in lard as well.

She was teetotal thou.

I think the point is that it was a long -held belief that wine was good for you, and that chocolate was bad. It seems on the latest evidence that the reverse may be true, but these ideas are only gleaned from observational data.

The comment above about other aspects of diet and exercise being more important is bang on IMHO.