Daniel Pelka murder case
I have a controversial suggestion for parents convicted of abuse and murder such as this .Compulsory sterilization ?I know it would never happen because of human rights issues but that`s how I feel at the moment having read about the case .I know it wont bring the little lad back but they would never be able to abuse their own kids again would they?Posted 4 years agotheflatboyMember
Just awful. I know that the school were being told he was being treated for some mysterious eating problem (and told a load of other fabrications about his other injuries), but I still can’t get my head around it going on for as long as it did and nobody there intervening. So sad, poor little boy.Posted 4 years ago
sparea thought also for children in syria, iraq, afghanistan etc etc
Do all parents in those countries abuse, starve and murder their own kids?
While what is happening there is grim, it’s not relevant in this thread.
The thought that these “people” could have another child doesn’t sit well with me at all.
Wouldn’t any potential future offspring just be taken immediatley into care? Surely?Posted 4 years ago
The only connection is that children are dying (i really dont mean to sound insensitive here, but its difficult not to). IMO what has happened to Daniel and baby P is some how much worse. These were kids living in peacetime, and those whose job/natural instinct it was to protect them have turned on them, quite horrifically, for no good reason.
Im not saying war is justification for kids dying, but is a horrible fact of life. Parents killing their own kids is a different level of evil.Posted 4 years agoKlunkMember
one of the guests on newsnight made an interesting point about why wasn’t this noticed at his school. His point was malnourished children are more numerous than we would like to admit and to the teachers and staff at some schools it’s “run of the mill”. Whether this is true or not I don’t know but if it is it’s a chilling indictment of our society.Posted 4 years ago
Appaling case for sure but as for the suggested responses…..-1 from me, I’m afraid.
What would you like to see happen to the perpetrators of such a crime ?Do you think that rehabilitation into society is possible or even probable and maybe someone who does this needs to go to a secure mental unit for treatment ?Posted 4 years agopictonroadSubscriber
I’ve not been able to have live radio or news for a couple of days because of this, can’t deal with such stories since I’ve become a Dad, it genuinely keeps me up all night.
All of these type of people, the April Jones killer in Wales, any child killers or abusers, the lot of em just take them straight from the trial and drop them in the North Sea. I’d adopt them all if I could. 😥Posted 4 years ago
I dont get the malnourished child bit .I brought my son up for 7 years on income support between the ages of 2 and 9 .I didnt have a car or a phone for a few of those years but I managed ok.I think some of it is down to educating people to actually cook food from scratch and not open a packetPosted 4 years agobrassneckSubscriber
one of the guests on newsnight made an interesting point about why wasn’t this noticed at his school. His point was malnourished children are more numerous than we would like to admit and to the teachers and staff at some schools it’s “run of the mill”. Whether this is true or not I don’t know but if it is it’s a chilling indictment of our society.
Mrs B teaches in a nice market town, and usually has a few each year that they are giving breakfast and lunch, often out of their own pockets. It’s more common than most would think.Posted 4 years ago
But she thought that some of the behaviour exhibited would have had the police in school.. but who knows how good the parent was at covering it up? Difficult to say 🙁
why wasn’t this (malnutrition) noticed at his school
It was, but the
evil witchmother told them he had a rare eating disorder, and as such told them not to feed him.
This is what really troubles me. If they saw the lad as an inconvenience, (his awful living conditions suggest they did) then I guess that’s why they weren’t feeding him at home, but to go that extra mile and lie to others to make sure they didnt feed him either?? Utter evil, barely comprehensible, madness.Posted 4 years ago20thebearMember
A million children in the UK are living with “food insecurity” according to research. This country, now, in the 21st century.
I can’t get how that can be. Basic food over here is very, very cheap compared to other countries. I think the parents must be blowing their cash on Sky TV and fags before thinking about food for their kids.Posted 4 years agobreatheeasyMember
As I said above I managed on income support and actually lived very healthily because I couldnt afford to buy ready made crap
Which is great, but if your 4 years old you don’t get income support directly to your piggy bank and if mum and step-dad are spending it all on the lash every night, or have a drug habit/ desperately need that 650b bike then you see sad cases like this.Posted 4 years agofreeagentMember
Following on from other comments about kids going to School hungry – Mrs Freeagent is a secondary school science teacher in posh Bromley borough, she often has kids in class who’ve not eaten breakfast, have no money/food for lunch and tell her that they have to fend for themselves in the evenings.
Others live on a diet of chocolate, crisps and energy drinks (quite often they’ll do a can of ‘Monster’ for breakfast, and another for lunch)
So although it sounds like the School did f*ck up in this case – hungry, mal-nourished kids are more common than you’d think, even in ‘nice’ places.
My in-laws are Foster carers and have had several kids (all fairly young) over the years who have arrived looking like they’ve been living wild in the woods – mal-nourished, thinning hair, sunken eyes, filthy dirty, rotten teeth..Posted 4 years ago
so sad to think there are kids living local to all of us being treated like this…
Totally agree with you about kids and being fed properly and them not getting he money directly.I think the schools have a big part to play in helping social services .Thats assuming that school staff are allowed to say things without knee jerk suspension /sacking for doing so if they are wrong.Posted 4 years ago
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