Cyclist Vs Pedestrian
Its a strange one, and not that rare it seems.
I’m surprised it isn’t more common, with kids walking to school stepping out into the road to get around a bunch of their mates taking up the whole path, muppets with headphones engrossed in their phone/whatever stepping out into the road without even a token glance to see if anything’s coming, stupid bints pushing prams out into the road while texting/checking Fb/yakking to their brainfried mates…Posted 3 years ago
And none of them pay any attention to bells, either; one silly cow walked into me after I rang my bell to let her know I was behind; too engrossed in her bloody phone to pay attention, both of us ended up on the Tarmac, but at least her phone got smashed. #karma 😈ads678Subscriber
Surely if the cyclist had time to shout stop several time he had time to start braking.
Pedestrians are idiots though, I used to ride through leeds centre most days and the amount of times people just walked across the road in front me was Redicoulous. Adults as well not kids!
I did once wipe an bloke out in Halifax centre as he crossed between cars while I was filtering down the side. Both hit the deck, his glasses broke my rear mech was knackered for some reason. We called it quits and went our seperate ways. On lookers didn’t like me though….Posted 3 years agograhamgMember
I’m always a bit puzzled by these things – the rider has time to shout stop several times but never considers putting the brakes on? Sounds like it was totally avoidable but for someone that thinks randomly shouting is more appropriate than slowing down. Imagine a car driver leaning out of the window shouting ‘move!’ before ploughing in to someone. Pure stupidity.Posted 3 years agohh45Member
This is one of my favourite grumpy old man topics. Pedestrians drive me nuts and I would be happy to donate several £’00 to fund a civil case against the pedestrian. Peds need to wake up to their responsibilities just like motorists and cyclists; i.e. not step into the road without looking etc. If the ped is wearing any form of headphone then death penalty should be mandatory. Just wait until I am Global President of Road Traffic Regulations.Posted 3 years ago
There was a pretty serious collision this afternoon just outside Manchester City Centre. Pedestrian crossing the road who has not spotted oncoming cyclist. Cyclist sees pedestrian and shouts stop several times. Pedestrian hesitates and then steps in front of cyclist. Pedestrian has a couple of minor injuries, cyclist in a bad way.
Its a strange one, and not that rare it seems. But where would the cyclist go from there? What if he doesn’t recover? What about the damage to bike/kit? Seems like a bit of an ‘uncovered’ area with regards claims/blame etc.Posted 3 years ago
I’m always a bit puzzled by these things – the rider has time to shout stop several times but never considers putting the brakes on?Posted 3 years ago
Have you really not been in that kind of situation to realise how it could happen?
The kind of hesitation/ movement of the pedestrian makes you think they will get out they way, but they don’t. You think you can go behind if they continue, or in front if they stop. Usually it works out ok, but obviously in the OP’s one it didn’t.
Still, bloody typical of STWers to blame the cyclist. “oh I’m a much better rider than that” ffskcalSubscriber
Back when I stayed in Edinburgh, I did manage to have a collision with a pedestrian. I came down the Mound (for those that know it) with flow of traffic, behind run of cars. Ped standing waiting to cross, looks at me (I thought) then steps out and gets half way across the road !! I shout a warning, slow down and go behind him – whereupon he tries to get back to start point. Tangle of bike, cyclist and pedestrian ensues, no-one hurt, he has grace to say “I guess that was my fault” and limps off…
As above though, I got daggers and pelters from the onlookers, tut-tutting away..Posted 3 years agoneilwheelMember
If you have the chance to shout more than “sto……..” then you have a chance to do something else instead.
Treat everyone else as if they are stupid unless they have shown themselves to be otherwise.
Locking up the back or an endo to stop at their toes will leave a much bigger impression.Posted 3 years agoxherbivorexSubscriber
happened to me on deansgate last year; woman stepped out straight in front of me as i was rounding the corner onto quay street and i was launched across the junction into the middle of the road, she fell back onto the pavement behind. i was way too close to have been able to stop, but had obviously already slowed down a bit to take the corner (not that i ride that fast anyway). in the eyes of everyone present (except for the woman on the ribble who stopped to make sure i was alright), it was clearly my fault as i was on a bike. riding through a green light. not doing anything wrong.Posted 3 years ago
i still have a bit of a bump right on my hip from where i hit the road, but was mostly lucky there were no cars near me at the time…
and yeah, my bike was fine!molgripsSubscriber
Have you really not been in that kind of situation to realise how it could happen?
Yes, often. I always brake anyway, expecting them not to see me. The only time I’d ever hit is if they stepped straight off the road into my path, leaving me no time to do anything, shout or otherwise.Posted 3 years agoads678Subscriber
Arghhhh! We’re all pedestrians
Not when I’m on my bike I’m not!
Maybe I should change it to, some pedestrians are idiots!
Dez, obviously we don’t know the ins and outs of what the op’s talking about, and no one is blaming the cyclist per say , BUT, if the cyclist has time to shout stop, SEVERAL times he should be braking and trying to avoid a collision. It does sound like he hit the ped quite hard if he’s in a bad way so he must of been going fairly quick.Posted 3 years ago
Just to clarify – cyclist shouted stop but was it was already too late. The impact wasn’t huge, but because of the way he fell and tangled in his bike he has come off very badly, ie life changingly bad. The woman’s injuries are very very minor and indicate the low force of impact. Nothing cyclist could have done.Posted 3 years agounklehomeredSubscriber
Someone in my little dales town hospitalised when they stepped in front of a bike on the High Street* a while ago. Very sad, as will have been a momentary assumption of “I can’t hear any traffic” = “there’s nothing coming”.
To address the OPs main query it’s tricky, I’m more bothered about the cost of long term care than physical items, but if you’re not well off and save to buy a bike etc its still a big hit I suppose. It might be me, but is it physically possible to shout “Stop Stop Stop” and not brake, just on a subconscious reflex level, I reach for the brakes when I see anything, even if I’m just covering them it’s involuntary.
Also as above, we are all pedestrians. Bob to the shops this morning milk? you were a pedestrian (or really effing lazy).
EDIT, missed the above, I was busy keyboard warrioring…
* local paper ran innocent bystander mown down by satan riding a racing bike**.
**for racing bike read “A road bike of non descript spec, we wouldn’t know a racing bike if one ran us down on the High Street in cold blood.”Posted 3 years ago
I had that once and she asked me to think of the children
I moved to one side so she could see my child on the back in the bike seat and said i was and I was looking where i was going and my actions i just kept her child and my child safe whilst she endangered them both
That was equally well received
Every situation is different. Every single one.
They have commonalities that I use to learn from so i do not repeat any mistakes.
If you can shout stop repeatedly you can also pull your brake in the same amount of time.
I do not see how you can deny this tbh
As I said I learnt that lesson the hard way.Posted 3 years agoTheBrickMember
On the face of it the cyclist should have been shouting and braking, but I don’t know if he/she wasn’t. I’ve hit a ped who gave me zero chance to even brake before and had the buggy thrown in front of me and I know a mate who now has pin in his collar bone thanks to someone paying more attention to their phone than the road so I know peds can be very quick to jump out too.Posted 3 years agoMr_MojoMember
My wife got knocked off her bike whilst cycling through York a couple of years ago. The other women cyclist stopped looked at my wife on the ground then cycled off. Wife had a lacerated liver and spent three days in the ICU ward of York District hospital. We approached the police about the accident but they say they couldn’t do anything as tracing the other cyclist would be impossible!Posted 3 years agowigglesSubscriber
I once waited at a crossing the lights went red and the traffic stopped so I stepped onto the crossing and a woman on a bike crashed into me at speed knocking me over then rode of swearing at me…
I’ve also had people jump out in front of me and I haven’t mowed them down so both cyclists and pedestrians can be idiots and you don’t have to be one of them 😉Posted 3 years agoatlazMember
I hit a pedestrian on a shared use (no cars) road a couple of years ago. She was in front of me, I called to say I was passing on her left and she stepped to her left. She did a bit of a tango and in the end I hit the roadside barrier rather than hit her straight on. Still not sure whose fault it was but I’m glad that neither of us were particularly hurt. Both of us could have avoided the accident and she had bruises and I lost skin and blood.
I would say, though, if you’ve got time to shout “stop”/honk your horn/ring your bell SEVERAL times, you might want to start to slow down.Posted 3 years agob rMember
tbh This rule really covers it, whether it is a junction or open road.
watch out for pedestrians crossing a road into which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way
Doesn’t mean either are at fault, just that you ought to at least try to avoid them – although I put one in hospital when he stepped out on me; I was riding one of these…
He didn’t see me, because he didn’t look.Posted 3 years agoalbebotMember
I crashed into a pedestrian about 6 months ago.
Lady crossing the road, looking the wrong way, just stepped out from the curb into the road at the perfect time for me to hit her. Luckily I’d only set off from a red light and was slowly accelerating. I escaped with a few scratches, unfortunately for her I’m 14.5 stone and she flew about 6 feet down the road. She had to be taken to hospital with a suspected broken hip. As a few people have experienced I was made out to be the guilty party. Didn’t help that the woman was screaming at me. Although it wasn’t my fault at all I felt pretty guilty too.
I asked the ambulance crew if they wanted to take my details but they weren’t interested.Posted 3 years ago
I rang the police to report the accident but again they weren’t interested. They said because no motor vehicle was involved it was just seen as bad luck. “Just one of those things”. I supposed these things happen and we’re all responsible.
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