Cwmcarn – opinions
Best trail centre ever, I reckon. Trail surface is eroded which makes it rocky and quite tricky in places, but not so much it’s a problem. First bit is one big climb which is interesting and challenging; second bit is up and down very fast singletrack, and the last descent is a blast. Just make sure you time your air properly on the fades otherwise you’ll definitely beat your mates back to the car park…
Oh yeah and the DH course is entirely doable for an XCer with just a smidge of caution. Nothing dangerous at all as long as you don’t hit every jump flat out. And you can ride up the XC course climb, do a short road section and do the DH. OR you can ride all the way up the road, which is steady and not very steep.Posted 4 years agojairajSubscriber
Highly recommended by me. Rode it for the first time just after xmas. Had load of fun on the XC route, the climb is engaging and the decent is good fun too. Really good all-round fun trail.
There is also a red and black DH route too. Black was closed when I went but we gave the red a go which for me was really good fun, doable on a trail bike, you don’t need a full on DH bike. I think uplift was £3 or £4 a single run.Posted 4 years ago
Wont be doing it on a DH bike, that’s for sure – not doing BPW on a DH bike either – Enduro SL.
Will be sticking some High Roller II’s on for BPW, full face and plenty of protection – will switch back to Eskars and trail lid/knee pads for Cwm.
Cheers for the replies – looking forward to it, just need to get some dirt under my wheels before I go now!Posted 4 years agoHob NobMember
I must be in the minority. The whole XC loop bored me to tears. And to add insult to injury, we did it 3 times, because it’s so short.
All the way up, then back down again. The down definitely doesn’t warrent the climb. Hopefully the new loop they put in will be better 🙂Posted 4 years agojohnnySubscriber
…and on the subject of the second loop, any news!? I’ve been holding off booking a trip in since early December in the expectation it would be opening soon? LSt thing I heard was the black DH was closed and the red had been altered a bit, whilst the new XC loop had issues with MX bikes using it…
Anyone seen owt happening?Posted 4 years agocoreMember
The climb seems longer that it really is, it’s quite technical for about 1/3, very technical, rocky and rooty in some places, hard to keep momentum, and in general a bit of a drag.
I like the descent though, the first section (of the xc loop, not the black) is like a channel cut into the ground, quite fast & flowing, banked corners. There’s a couple of short climbs after that but nothing bad, and I really enjoy it after that, although it is maybe over a bit fast after that climb.Posted 4 years agojairajSubscriber
That’s why I love the climb. I prefer a climb to be engaging and make you use some skills to get over it rather than just use the Jeremy Clarkson approach of “MORE POWER!” (mainly because I have no power to give).
Also I didn’t feel the need for big grippy tyres and full face when I went to BPW. I only did two trails a blue and red but there was plenty of grip, even in recent conditions and even with my normal Ignitors didn’t feel I needed more grip from the tyres. The trails I did were just like trail centre descents. Just the obstacles where not spread apart and come at yo in short succession.Posted 4 years ago
Also I didn’t feel the need for big grippy tyres and full face when I went to BPW. I only did two trails a blue and red but there was plenty of grip, even in recent conditions and even with my normal Ignitors didn’t feel I needed more grip from the tyres. The trails I did were just like trail centre descents. Just the obstacles where not spread apart and come at yo in short succession.
Not meaning to be antagonistic, but how can you determine what is suitable if you did one red and a blue. We will be there all day and no doubt hitting some of the blacks at speeds beyond our skill level 😉Posted 4 years agobailsSubscriber
It’s nice and rough. Cannock fans won’t like it.
It’s really not that rough. And there’s that weird section after the ‘jump park’ with the narrow bit along the fence that spits you into a 90 degree turn up a big concrete slab.
If I lived down the road from it then I’d ride there loads(only been 2 or 3 times) but it always feels like it could be so much better, given the terrain available and it’s not good enough to warrant a 2hr+ journey each way.
I’ve preferred every other Welsh TC that I’ve been to (Penmachno, Mach, Nant, CYB, Afan).
But, if you haven’t been and you’re in the area anyway then give it a go.Posted 4 years agoMad PierreSubscriber
I’ve done the uplift loads which is great. I also think the XC ain’t that great – only done it once and the best bit was the climb. Bit short and pretty much one up one down. Done the XC last descent more than once (cuz you can do it on the uplift) and it’s a bit boring compared to the proper DH run.Posted 4 years agomunrobikerMember
I was there yesterday- it’s held up well considering the wet. I was in the area for work and was going to ride the Forest of Dean, but their trail reports said it was “very wet”.
I’ve been a few times now, I’m from Sheffield. It’s OK- if you ride the climb in a oner it’s good, and descents, unusually for Welsh trail centres, are proper descents. They’re fast but not technical. The wind yesterday meant the jumps at the top were a bit of a no-go too. I can imagine if you were on a weekend warrior’s weekend away stopping regularly up the climbs it would feel like a lot of up for not a lot of down, in which case maybe try Afan instead?Posted 4 years agocreameggMember
that spits you into a 90 degree turn up a big concrete slab.
that concrete section is rideable, although never managed it myself.
Cwmcarn (Twrch) used to be fairly rough which I liked but it’s been smoothed out a lot now and although still ok in a different way not as good. I like my trails as rough as the local girls 😉Posted 4 years ago
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