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  • Premier Icon postierich
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    Sorry if its been done already
    http://antichainreaction.com/

    CRC is a business predator and everybody should be aware of their business targets.

    Conquering market share, elimating distributors, controlling brands and pricing. That’s their religion.

    Think about it.

    Some interesting comments on the subject

    druidh
    Member

    We don’t call it “The Church” for nothing……

    jedi
    Member

    the death star 🙂

    shinsplints
    Member

    Never mind all that Postie. I’m going to Penmachno next Sunday. Room in the car for one. Promise no talking this time, tunes all the way. 😆
    Si. Probably going somewhere Saturday too.

    derp
    Member

    the death star

    That’s no moon…

    brooess
    Member

    I use CRC because they give me something my LBS can’t: sheer choice and the ability to buy on a Sunday night after something broke/wore out over the weekend, delivered in time for me to ride again the next Saturday.

    I use my LBS when I need some help/advice or need something fixing/parts installed that I don’t have the tools to do myself.

    Each has a role – maybe time for LBS’s to consider the value they’re best placed to add, and to focus on it? e.g. Bike Treks guided rides/maps/test rides etc

    tazzymtb
    Member

    CRC is a business

    end of really

    Rickos
    Member

    Should we stop using Tesco as well then?

    big_n_daft
    Member

    I love this comment

    Mike Jacoubowsky

    28 enero, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    There has been a lot of sloppiness in the reporting on the “Chain Reaction” mail order house. They are not “Chain Reaction” but rather “Chain Reaction Cycles.” Even the website here continues in this tradition.

    http://www.ChainReaction.com is the website for a local retailer (us!) with two stores in the San Francisco area. We do not do mail order and are in no way affiliated with Chain Reaction Cycles.

    Nevertheless we get many angry phone calls from customers of theirs (because we have a published phone number and they don’t) as well as emails. They make themselves deliberately difficult to contact; we make ourselves deliberately easy. Perhaps that in a nutshell explains one of the basic differences between a full-service local retailer and an internet monster?

    Please try to be more careful in your references to “Chain Reaction.” Thanks, Mike Jacoubowsky, Partner, Chain Reaction Bicycles.

    flamejob
    Member

    Having worked in ‘the industry’ on and off since I was 16 all I can say is CRC is the best thing that could have happened. A professional and efficient business that should be held up as an example of how a lot of shopping should be done in retail.

    All the LBS’s can sell overspecced hybrids to the 2.4 families and leave the specialist stuff to the online experts. Come on guys, we all know what we are buying.

    Blower
    Member

    crc for me.

    Oggles
    Member

    I will buy from the people who offer me the best service with the quickest turnaround. So not the LBS.

    Except when I’m at home because it would be Merlin 😉

    Premier Icon AD
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    Thanks for the reminder about CRC – they e-mailed me a £10 off voucher earlier in the week and I’d forgotten about it! I’m off to buy something now.

    LBS has never done that 🙂

    Blower
    Member

    times are hard,and prices are high.

    whoever is the cheapest,

    clubber
    Member

    Business that usually delivers on price and speed becomes very successful. Can’t see the problem.

    carlosg
    Member

    I love CRC , they send out an awful lot of parcels hence they are one of the companies that is helping to keep me in a job. + 9 times out of 10 they are the people I use if I need any new bits.

    crotchrocket
    Member

    I guess we’d better chuck the towel in on modern economics and plump for some kind of communal economic model instead. Like china?

    Tracker1972
    Member

    I particularly like point 4

    Obviously, we don’t intend to fix the prices or forbid anyone where to buy.

    “it’s just that we would like you not to buy from this big shop that is doing better trade than us”
    I am not a huge fan of capitalism, more socialist at heart I like to think, but aren’t they simply describing a business trying to be successful and maximise their profits? Maybe not nice if you are suffering but hey, thats business?
    Oh, and as for the “selling stuff to other countries being bad” how it is OK that say, Shimano, sell to us poor defenceless Europeans, but CRC shouldn’t?
    I either don’t understand (very possible) or somebody who can’t even be bothered to mention who they are has an axe to grind.
    Sorry, but I tend to find the people in the shadows the hardest to trust.

    Premier Icon the-muffin-man
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    I understand from a mate who works in the trade that Wiggle are far more ruthless than CRC.

    jimc101
    Member

    If CRC wasn’t here, someone else would be, there is pretty good competition at the moment in the market, Merlin, Woolly Hat, Ribble, Rutland + many other & loads on e-bay.

    Remember, CRC started as a LBS, and took opportunites / risks, they were successful, many other haven’t been. good for them.

    Also, if you look at Mavic product’s, they can’t sell them out of the EU, so even they have some restrictions to live with.

    Happy customer here

    MrSynthpop
    Member

    wow, looks like someone in the eurozone just found out what competition looks like, I have some limited sympathy with distributors who sink a lot of effort into promoting a product but not a whole lot given the alternative to open competition is to let companies divy up the market and then charge whatever they think they can screw out of people in each region.

    In any event unless the manufacturers themselves (as opposed to distros) start enforcing specific conditions on sales over the web then all the moaning in the world won’t matter – as long as product is shifting vendors will be happy.

    Roter Stern
    Member

    I ordered some Middleburn stuff from CRC instead of my LBS in Germany as the German distributors are so useless they said it would take 6-8 weeks to get the stuff. With CRC it took five days and was around 20 Euros cheaper. My LBS have realised they can’t compete with the internet shops and now are concentrating more on the older customers who want high hybrid/electric bikes who aren’t so internet savvy.

    Dirtynap
    Member

    CRC is good business. Plus it got very lucky, purely becuase its Irish, becuase of that fact CRC pays the lowest rates of corpate tax in the EU hnece its pricing is lower than anywhere else.

    Yes the EU are not happy that Ireland charges next to sod all business taxes and has just had a one of the biggest bail outs in history.

    Anyway CRC buy up the middle makes perfect business since. I buy from who ever is cheapest or most convenient at the time, always have and always will.

    clubber
    Member

    CRC is NORTHERN Irish so afaik their under the same business conditions as the rest of the UK.

    B.A.Nana
    Member

    Chain Reaction Cycles Ltd.
    Kilbride Rd
    Doagh
    Ballyclare
    BT39 0QA
    United Kingdom

    Premier Icon billyboy
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    Someway up now but…………..

    YES WE SHOULD STOP SHOPPING AT TESCOS because their delivery driver reversed into my garden gate and wall, causing £300 worth of damage and then buggered off without telling anyone what he’d done.

    NOBODY SHOULD BLOODY SHOP THERE…EVER…..AT ALL.

    brooess
    Member

    Yes the EU are not happy that Ireland charges next to sod all business taxes and has just had a one of the biggest bail outs in history

    Spain and Portugal aren’t too far off needing a similar size bailout. Or Greece.

    sv
    Member

    CRC is good business. Plus it got very lucky, purely becuase its Irish, becuase of that fact CRC pays the lowest rates of corpate tax in the EU hnece its pricing is lower than anywhere else.

    FAIL!

    mudglutten
    Member

    What utter tosh. CRC is a successful business, as are Amazon, and a gazillion other online business that offer choice and value. For most stuff, I use CRC because they give me a better service at a lower cost than my LBS. If I need expert advice or I need to try before I buy, then I pay a premium and use my LBS because in that case they will give me better service than CRC can.

    Horses for courses.

    Now, show me the link to prochainreaction.com.

    spread the love when the purse strigs allow. when that shock needs fettling the day before your trip to gods country crc wont be there!

    Premier Icon accu
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    last year I had some problems with a frame I ordered from CRC…
    two emails later it was sorted…they changed the used frame for a new one and added a discount on my next purchase….
    it couldn`t be any better…perfect service..another happy customer

    thanks to the monster !!

    Roter Stern
    Member

    Now, show me the link to prochainreaction.com.

    Here it is.

    Premier Icon mustard
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    nah, scrub that can’t be arsed…

    grahamh
    Member

    Today it’s the internet, 20-30 years ago there where the same arguments about mail order companies. Same issue different technology.

    shinsplints
    Member

    Rich what have you done ? Gone to bed probably….. 😆

    Premier Icon coolhandluke
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    CRC = bike shop equivalent of Tesco???
    I like them, reliable, cheap, great web site, rarely let me down.

    Sorry guys but my LBS experiences don’t mirror those I get off CRC.

    aka_Gilo
    Member

    They deliver (in both senses of the word).

    They are successful.

    And…….???

    RagTi
    Member

    There are a lot of people going on about how good CRC is, rubbish!. I possibly dont know of a better run business than CRC. Me any my brother have probably placed a hundred orders with them,99% of orders turned up the next day, well packaged, correct and the cheapest produce available in the market….oh and not to mention FOC on all deliveries and a complete no quibble returns policy. Moreover, I (and we) are all skint which helps me leen towards CRC also.

    We have had to return a few items, other than having to trail to th PO it has been no hassle.

    The thought of never having to go into my LOCAL! bike shops (except Cycle Gear in Halifax!) over than to get shafted for 10 minutes of labour! fills me with absolute glee!!!

    Kev

    bigyinn
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    Not a bunch of bitter resentful distros and (not so) LBS from abroad just realising that the cycling Tesco’s is taking their business. No….

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