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  • lcj
    Member

    Hope the OP heals quickly, a crash hurts regardless of how it happened.

    I think the new jump on that trail is a shame – it didnt need it and the best bits of the trail (i.e. the corners) seem to have been lost to give space for the jump. Just my two cents!

    freeridenick
    Member

    I still don’t get it. Isn’t mountain biking meant to challenge us?

    I like the addition to the trail, its not hard by any stretch, there is a ride round…

    there aren’t enough jumps in the surrey hills as it is.

    I crash, we all crash. strava hunting means we crash even more!

    GT, yep certainly was a mincer! 😯

    So i crashed Last night on Supernova up at Peaslake last night..
    almost Broke my neck.

    Reason im putting it on here is because i had NO IDEA that the trail ahead of me had changed..

    im speaking about the new Jump section towards the bottom of the trail before you cross the fire road.

    this time last week it was a fairly simple flat jump..
    But no someone has dug a huge trench behind the jump that you cant see until your on the jump..

    Roll on all the “should of gone to spec savers” and “why didnt you walk the trail first” etc etc from the desk jockeys. Im aware it was my fault i crashed. i just giving people the heads up the trail has changed…… πŸ™‚

    Spent 4 hours in A and E with suspected Fracture neck..Luckily its not.

    LINK TO VIDEO FILMED ON CHEST CAM

    Im all for new trails and thank the hard work that people have gone into doing it…but it would take 2 mins to put a little sign on a tree..i dont mean HUGE way marked trail center style signs BTW..

    Cheers

    Gotama
    Member

    Isn’t mountain biking meant to challenge us?

    Yes, but why does that have to be done with a jump? I can quite happily do the jump but i preferred the trail before it was put in. The chicken line is a bit rubbish and the corners which made it fun for a lot of people have been removed to make way for the jump. Whilst i can appreciate that the guy doing all the work on the trails is doing what he feels is fun, it’s not his land and i think a bit of consideration for the masses would lead to less trouble in the long term. Why not leave the trail as it was but put a higher line where the chicken run is to make a hip? Surely that makes it fun for everyone.

    I also liked the narrow trees that he’s taken out. Was it a challenge to get the bars through there or something? My 780mm fit just fine.

    freeridenick

    i think youve missed the point…im just saying that i crashed on it..im giving people the heads up before someone else comes of worse…im all for jumps..(that i can do, obviously….lol)..

    My brothers just pointed out.(who was there) the chicken run thats next to the jump last night was actually covered in a cut down tree..( i had didn’t see this)

    although he did see some tyre treds even higher up the trail…

    Hob Nob
    Member

    To be fair if you can ride that trail at any sort of pace the old berms were too tight, it was easier to double them up.

    I like the new jump for what it’s worth. It would appear I’m the minority though

    This just reminds me that I need to get over the Hills. Seems ages since I was last over there.

    Supernova is the wiggly, one that comes down the left side of the valley as you head to Peaslake? Crosses over the fireroad, leading to the later addition to it into Walking Bottom carpark, yes?

    Also, can anyone categorically state who’s fault this crash was? The rider of the trail pixies?

    Also, can anyone clear something up for me? Is trail building in the surrey hills a contentious subject? I have no idea.

    Gotama
    Member

    My brothers just pointed out.(who was there) the chicken run thats next to the jump last night was actually covered in a cut down tree..( i had didn’t see this)

    πŸ™„

    freeridenick
    Member

    proflex

    Fair enough, but everytime anything interesting is built it lasts about 2 days before it gets taken out…this just feeds the flames.

    Premier Icon njee20
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    Whilst i can appreciate that the guy doing all the work on the trails is doing what he feels is fun, it’s not his land and i think a bit of consideration for the masses would lead to less trouble in the long term

    That’s my thoughts. Freeridenick you may feel that the sport needs ‘furthering’ and that but the SH is a pretty contentious area with a lot of potentially conflicting parties, and doing things like this on private land, without permission, really isn’t ideal. It’s at least an improvement if they’re in more discrete places.

    this just feeds the flames.

    What flames? πŸ˜•

    tyredbiker
    Member

    Has it definitely been done without permission then?

    freeridenick
    Member

    Without you know who, there would hardly be any trails…
    evian, cochise, etc etc are all built illegally without permission.

    the legacy trails are generally shit

    yunki
    Member

    just hang around up there until you spot someone digging some new stuff and smack them in the neck with a spade..

    an eye for an eye.. it’s what the trailbuilders would have wanted with their freedom of self expression ethos..
    If they complain, you can always tell them that it’s their/they’re/there fault, and some people like violence, why should we curtail violence just to please them etc etc

    butterbean
    Member

    Has it definitely been done without permission then?

    Pretty much everything up there worth riding is built without permission.

    Everyone knows they are there, on the whole common sense is applied.

    I can’t believe people are getting their knickers in a twist over some trail evolution & a little jump, that has a chicken line round it.

    peterfile
    Member

    Reason im putting it on here is because i had NO IDEA that the trail ahead of me had changed..

    Were you expecting someone to email you with details of the change?

    Eyes open, head up, read the trail in front of you. It’s an easy mistake to make when you’re familiar with a trail, but i’m not sure the blame sits much further than from where you are sitting/lying.

    Sorry to hear you’re hurt though, hope you feel better soon.

    Premier Icon zippykona
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    Jeez people he’s not asking for sympathy just giving us a heads up.
    Maybe for a little while we will contemplate what’s around that corner we ride every day.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Maybe you should recon every trail, every time you ride it. Does anyone in the world do that?

    OK, obviously unofficial digging, you can hardly hold to official digging standards. Expecting signs etc isn’t realistic. But, they don’t have to be dicks about it either. Some of the local diggers have a real thing for digging holes in the blind behind a jump, sometimes it’s borrow pits but sometimes you see the spoil’s just been tossed aside- the only reason for the hole is to add consequences. (similiarly, throwing debris into the landing area so that if you come up short, you crash) Why would you do that?

    So this one sounds a bit like that, digging a hazard for no real reason at all, which is a ****’s trick IMO.

    peterfile
    Member

    Good point zippy, i was confusing some of the subsequent posts as being the OPs 😳

    Sorry!

    Premier Icon nuke
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    Without you know who

    Yay πŸ˜€ …50 posts in on this thread about the Surrey hills, jumps and injury and ‘he’ hadn’t been mentioned…I was starting to worry standards were slipping around here πŸ˜‰

    All sounds jolly dangerous for mincers like me who still crash a lot πŸ™

    Get well soon proflexforever

    tyredbiker
    Member

    Just because I saw some members of the Hurtwood up there, presumed it would have disappeared if it wasn’t legit. I was up there yday as well OP. Was going relatively quick but still managed to see the chicken line on the left so had a stop to check out what the jump was like- tree must have appeared after 7pm when I left after the rain started. Was fairly dark in the woods at that time I guess…To be honest I think they’ve done a fairly good job compared to most jumps that get put in- at least there’s a chicken line

    Looks nasty – get well soon.

    but i’m not sure the blame sits much further than from where you are sitting/lying

    it was my fault….lol

    said that 9 times now..

    win!!

    peterfile
    Member

    aye, sorry mate, I did realise my mistake straight away πŸ™‚

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    but sometimes you see the spoil’s just been tossed aside- the only reason for the hole is to add consequences. (similiarly, throwing debris into the landing area so that if you come up short, you crash) Why would you do that?

    because people are lazy dicks who in the words of someone I once met are nothing but Car Park Cock Wavers who like to prove how big they are by making stuff like that. The skilled riders will clear it but also not care if there isn’t a pit of crap left there.

    tree must have appeared after 7pm

    i came through about 7.30ish..

    there could have been another chicken line up there that i missed all together, as i wasnt planning on taking the chicken line…

    PS. STW…..it was my fault… πŸ˜‰

    Premier Icon parkesie
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    Stop sanitising trails stop radicalising trails πŸ˜†

    tyredbiker
    Member

    Ergh you got caught in the rain then? Main chicken line is literally just to the left of the jump/drop but goes up a wee bit to come back down so disrupts the flow quite a bit. I don’t know why the gap isn’t changed into just a drop though, especially as the second jump isn’t great

    butterbean
    Member

    Next time, I suggest when you are riding a trail & looking ahead and you spot an obvious lip for a jump (it’s pretty obvious in this case) you stop & have a quick look to see if there is a gap/snake pit/firey cliff of death/etc on the other side…

    Then you can make an assessment whether its within your skillset to clear, push back up the trail & hit it, or just ride round.

    Hitting something blind with no idea on the size is pretty special. That being said, you’ve probably learnt a lesson & feeling the result sadly. Heal up & hit it with a bit more conviction next time, little more speed & you will be fine πŸ™‚

    Hitting something blind with no idea on the size is pretty special.

    i wasnt riding blind.im not an idiot..if you read the entire thread you would know this
    …ive ran this trail loads…i ran it when the jump first appeared a few weeks back..
    the huge pit behind the lip(that you cant see nutil your on it) wasnt there when i ran it last time

    heihei
    Member

    I like it! Got 6th place down there on Tuesday night…in the dark too! πŸ˜‰

    Premier Icon njee20
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    It has ‘evolved’ quite a bit as a feature since it was first dug, which I guess is par for the course, but understandable as to why you were caught out.

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    Next time, I suggest when you are riding a trail & looking ahead and you spot an obvious lip for a jump (it’s pretty obvious in this case) you stop & have a quick look to see if there is a gap/snake pit/firey cliff of death/etc on the other side…

    Yep, I stop every time I go round a corner on trials I have ridden loads before.

    Hitting something blind with no idea on the size is pretty special.

    bit like not reading the rest of the thread πŸ˜‰

    butterbean
    Member

    i wasnt riding blind.im not an idiot..if you read the entire thread you would know this
    …ive ran this trail loads…i ran it when the jump first appeared a few weeks back..
    the huge pit behind the lip(that you cant see nutil your on it) wasnt there when i ran it last time

    If that’s how you ‘jumped’ it before then, you probably should be going round features like that anyway. You basically dropped off it to flat. The landing starts at ~a bike length out.

    If that’s your idea of a huge pit, then you best not go near proper jumps.

    If that’s your idea of a huge pit, then you best not go near proper jumps.

    i dont do proper jumps,…i cant jump for shit…but i would of landed it fine if it was the way i remembered it to be..
    like i said 11 times now..it was my fault..

    dont start criticizing my riding style or lack there of.
    that’s not what this thread is about

    tyredbiker
    Member

    If that’s your idea of a huge pit, then you best not go near proper jumps.

    Ah now starts the ‘who can p*** the furthest’ contest…

    tyredbiker

    its STW i knew it wouldnt take long….

    :mrgreen:

    butterbean
    Member

    Ah now starts the ‘who can p*** the furthest’ contest…

    ZOMG once Pedal and Spoke heard I cleared the 5ft gap they offered me a Carbon Bronson for free there & then!

    but i would of landed

    “would have” πŸ˜•

    jeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

    so now its down to picking holes in peoples grammar..

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X5TFqQhfKI[/video]

    Glad you didn’t break your neck. I came across the “modified” double for the first time on Sunday and minced around it. I haven’t had a go at it but would have thought you’d need to be going for it out of the corner to clear it so I’d expect you’re not the last person who’s going to A&E from this one.

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