- Cotic Solaris Max feedback and pics please
the00 and timc, thanks. Looking at another picture I’ve found the XL doesn’t look as big as I imagined, will keep it on the (very) shortlist.Posted 7 months ago
Glad I found this thread! I’m 189cm and thinking of pulling the trigger on an XL SolarisMax. I’ve got some Hunt trail wide wheels on the way and will be using groupset and brakes from my old Boardman hardtail.
I’ve spent the past few days trying to find a new rockshox fork, but it’s been an absolute minefield trying to find one that’s in stock, right spec and I can afford. So I think I’m going to go with the Xfusion Mcqueens rough cuts direct from Cotic since people seem to rate them quite well.
Used to be massively into road biking but running is my main thing nowadays but I still commute by road bike and ride on an indoor trainer pretty regularly, so the MTB will be purely for fun escapes to local trail centres (Cannock and Pines) and day/weekend trips to the Peaks and beyond.
Coming from 120mm Rebas, I’m thinking of going 130mm on the Mcqueens since the Rebas always felt a bit sketchy going downwards, but I mostly enjoy going upwards – does 130mm seem like a good compromise?
Then I need to choose the bloody colour – loving mercury atm.Posted 7 months ago
@ductions The McQueens are great, but don’t be fooled by your Rebas. 120mm on those will have felt a bit sketchy because they’re not as stiff as the McQueens and the Boardman has less progressive geometry. For what you’re looking at riding, go 120mm. The geometry of the SolarisMAX means it will feel more than capable on the downs, and this setup will be more responsive and give you a better seated climbing position.
Cheers, CyPosted 7 months ago
I’ve considered lowering my fork from 140mm to 120mm or 130mm, but the BB feels low when I ride it with 2.8in B-plus anyway.
I think the medium black demo bike I rode with B-plus was set at 130mm, which seemed fine. Any thoughts on a 120mm fork with B-plus Cy?Posted 7 months ago
Thanks for the advice @cy. I’d also be interested to hear what 120 travel would be like with 27.5+, although I’ll be on 29s to begin with.Posted 7 months ago
@notmyrealname spoon that is well nice. I started a thread a while back about the purple frame. Correct choice ! man that is tasty!Posted 7 months ago
@notmyrealname spoon that is well nice. I started a thread a while back about the purple frame. Correct choice ! man that is tasty!
Thanks mate, it definitely looks the part!
Just finished it off with a set of 130mm Pike Ultimate forks, now I just need to get rid of this chest infection I’ve had for weeks and I’ll finally be able to ride the thing 🙂Posted 7 months ago
@ductions 27.5 Plus is quite terrain dependent. The Plus wheels are fun on the hardtail, and they gives tonnes of grip and a kind of monster truck feel. However, given the current SolarisMAX frame has room for 29 x 2.6″ tyres this is what I go for now. They give away very little in terms of grip and comfort over the 27.5 x 2.8, but they roll faster and aren’t as pressure sensitive. I tend to find on bermy flow trails Plus tyres squirm under load due to the size and low pressures which work brilliantly on rocks. Even in the 2.6″ size the 29ers are set and forget.Posted 7 months ago
I have a fork-related question – I’m currently running a 140mm Pike on my Solaris Max – I love the bike, but I think the front might be a bit too slack for me. Does anyone have any experience with the difference in feel between 140-120mm? The geo chart says it steepens the HA by around 0.5deg, so I assumed it wasn’t worth the hassle of changing my fork travel.Posted 7 months ago
I went with 140mm forks, thinking I could reduce the travel later. I haven’t found the HA too slack, and like the bike as it is. I’be been interested to try one day though.Posted 7 months ago
@twrch It’s not just about the angles. The shorter fork and shorter front centre and lower front end all will help sharpen up the steering response as it will be easier to weight the front wheel. It’s also a little more centre for seated climbing too. My personal preference is for 120mm on these bikes, and you can tell the difference despite it looking quite subtle on paper.Posted 7 months ago
So after starting this thread bloody ages ago finally got out for a first ride after a crap winter of back problems and illness. Did an 11 mile wander around Delamere and although very boggy in places when you go off the fire roads it was a good first test of the bike.
Very happy with it. The new SLX brakes where superb, felt much better than the guide t’s and R’s I’ve had recently. Those Hunt wheels are amazing. Only ever had stock wheelsets before and these are the first I’ve ever upgraded to. Just roll so fast and feel really planted. Also very happy with the NX gearing, doesn’t feel any different to the GX I had on my last bike. So glad I went for this frame, just feels like you can throw anything at it and feels high quality. Looking forward to trying some more testing routes when the weather improves.Posted 6 months ago
Posted 6 months ago
Ta @cy. I ordered a set of Maxxis WT tyres for my 30mm 29 wheels last night. I placed an order last week for an XL in red dwarf after seeing some great photos of a bike in that colour (not sure if solarismax) made up on Cotic’s flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/coticltd/46867722484/in/photostream
I was so close to pulling the trigger on a Mercury with some orange or pink hope bits, but those photos swung it in the end!
Sorry to say I also went 130mm travel but I figured I could reduce it down the line.Posted 6 months ago
Just had what I think will be my last ride on mine, due to a little re-shuffle of the fleet.
Anyone after a medium, you know where I am.
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I was intent on dropping my Fox 34 forks from 140mm to 120mm. Yet it seems to ride well in the 140mm guise.
My concern about dropping the travel on the front is how that affects the stack height and riding position. I’m already running 15mm of spacers under the stem with no room for manoeuvre due to the steerer tube length and I wouldn’t want the cotic stem and bars any lower. As they are pretty low already. This provides a stretched, seated riding position even with the saddle pushed forward on the rails.
The bike did get some getting used to too. I bought a large cosmic black frame in Sept but didn’t get it built up (taking all of the drivetrain, forks, brakes and wheelset from a donor bike) until Nov. I’m running 30mm internal DT Swiss wheels and Maxxis 29 x 2.5 DHF and Aggressor tyres. The first four rides (the second ride resulted in a crash losing the front end) before Christmas I struggled to get a feel for the bike and gel with it.
The last two rides have been much better. I’m getting used to the longer, slacker geo, the increased wheelbase, etc. What felt heavy, not as playful, not as poppy is actually stable and centred. The increased reach over the previous bike is also an improvement. The more I ride it the more I’m getting used to it and adapting. So the poppy and playfulness is returning. It’s quite the steamroller and even though it’s perhaps the heaviest bike I’ve had for a while reasonable nimble.
I’m not rating the Aggressor though, especially at this time of year so will change to a DHR II WT.
So, I’m still tempted to drop the forks to 120mm but seeing as I’m still getting to know the bike I might leave it for another month. Has any else gone from 140mm to 120mm?Posted 6 months ago
@kingofbiscuits I’ve ordered the airshaft to drop mine from 140mm to 120mm. I’ll report back once I test it out.Posted 6 months ago
Thanks for the info, @cy. It persuaded me to spend the cash on a 120mm airshaft.Posted 6 months ago
@ductions Ace! The Red Dwarf is such a rad colour. Good call. And don’t apologise about 130mm forks. They will be great, I really am talking about just tailoring the bike to suit certain conditions, but it certainly doesn’t ride badly with any of the different forks, it’s just degrees of awesome 😉 Excited for your first ride. I love getting new people on Cotic’s.Posted 6 months ago
@kingofbiscuits As I mentioned, it doesn’t ride badly with 140 – far from it – it just tips the balance towards bombing down rather than flick/flack singletrack. I know what you mean about the front end though. I’m tall and ride an XL and I ended up with 38mm rise bars on my SodaMAX (same shape, ti frame) with 120mm forks.Posted 6 months ago
Thanks @cy I’ll look to source a stem and bars with increased rise to compensate with the lower front end when its reduced to 120mm.
Although it rides well at 140mm I think 120mm would be the sweet spot for my local riding and the bike in general. Hell, my original Mk 1 Solaris coped admirably with everything I’ve thrown at it over the last 8 years with 100mm forks.
Looking forward to hear how it goes @twrchPosted 6 months ago
@kingofbiscuits I have already been down this road on my XL, I ended up with a cotic 35mm Stem (£39) & Nukeproof Horizon Carbon bars (38mm rise) for £50 in the CRC sale a while back.
It makes difference so Id agree its worth exploring.
Ive also been at 120mm & 140mm & have stayed at 140mm.
Im also considering trimming my bars to 780mm to add that considerationPosted 6 months ago
@kingofbiscuits The Renthal Fatbars (same as we offer as a build option) are a similar shape to Calver bars, but available in 38mm. I’ve been using some Spank Vibrocore bars for a couple of months which are really comfy too and they have a 40mm option.Posted 6 months ago
@timc Interested to know what difference you felt at 120mm, and why you switched back.Posted 6 months ago
Got mine set at 130mm and can’t really imagine going any less. The front end feels a bit low on mine but could be due to my lower back issues. Trying to upload a picture but cant find a decent picture hosting app.Posted 6 months ago
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I test rode in 140mm fork mode and couldn’t fault it. Loved it.
My actual build has the 120mm Yari from my Mk2 at the moment. I’ll see how I get on but may get it swapped for a 130mm or 140mm. I’d planned to go up immediately but based on @cy comments I’ll give it a fair crack at 120!Posted 6 months ago
@leythervegas the blue works really well with that frame, looks great. What tyres are you using?Posted 6 months ago
Cheers ductions. Got Minions front and rear. Too early to say how good they are bit did ok on my first ride and it was pretty wet.Posted 6 months ago
Oh no just got an email from TNT saying estimated delivery is next week on 20th, made sure I was at home today as well!Posted 6 months ago
@kingofbiscuits Here’s my update…I cancelled my order for a 120mm airshaft, based on people’s comments here. Not sure it’s worth the dosh and hassle to change.Posted 6 months ago
Well, Friday I’m going to take back possession of dark metal… My ‘packer’s trans is worn out and I fancied a change so it’ll be B+ 2×11 and 120 X-Fusion.
However, my question is about 29×2.6 tyres… My flaremax has a light/high grip 2.5 vigilante up front (tough/fast 2.4 judge on the back) and I’m planning on swapping out for 2.6’s (vigilante front/trail boss rear). Is it worth going tough/high grip upfront? Esp as (when the foot isn’t acting up) I mostly ride it natural/wild in the Cairngorms… (Lost a rekon on the Lairig and louigih 50m meters after the saddle to a big slash…)
Also, what pressures are people running 2.6’s at? I’ve a set of specialized 2.6’s on one wheel set that I’m heading to the same pressures as for 2.8 B+’s….Posted 6 months ago
I don’t think FlareMAX will take a 29×2.6 Trail Boss in the Swingarm. It’s a monster of a tyre. I use grip up front and fast at the back. The sidewalls on more recent light WTB are tougher than they used to be… which makes the call on light vs tough tricker. Rekon have super light sidewalls in comparison. WTB are heavier in all guises to a Rekon.Posted 6 months ago
Ah, forgotten that it was just the hardtails that were 2.6 compatible. I’ll try the specialized shod set in (its the bike I bought them for, to replace the Hope endurotechs) and check for clearance. I noticed quite a few frame pings from gravel pick up on the SodaMAX so just as well I’ve not ordered yet (come to think of it there is a 2.4 trail boss lurking in the ‘spares’ pile… cheers kelvin!)
Is there any problem on the SolarisMAX/SodaMAX with the 2.6 trail boss? It’s actually the wheelset off this that I’m going to change tyres on (currently unfashionable skinny HR2 2.3/Ardent 2.25 atm… 😱).
Initial impressions are that this is the way I want to go now… 🤷🏼♂️
Anybody any pressures advice/comments?Posted 6 months ago
@metalheart how do you find having a Solaris/SodaMAX and Flare. I have a Soul 275 (non longshot) but have a hankering for a 29er hardtail, my worry is that there’d be a lot of overlap between the bikes, plus it’s even longer in the reach department.Posted 6 months ago
The SolarisMAX is built up (and will be built up) purely as a ‘packer. So it’s workhorse guise (comparatively) ugly build but it’s for all day comfort and I don’t care how it looks if it minimises my pain. It’s also currently B+.
The SodaMAX is my preferred ‘go to’/first choice ride. To me, it rides just as good as it looks and it’s as bling as I go. A 35mm stem and 800mm renthals feels the right reach for me. As above I mostly ride natural/wild around the Cairngorms and this lets me get to feel like I’m hanging out at the edge a bit (it’s all comparative and I’m too long in the tooth to want to ride hard all day and risk harm). It’s probably my favourite bike ever. Has been (and always will be) 29er.
The FlareMAX is the short blast let it all hang out (i.e. Laggan red runs) push myself and because (before tendinitis issues) I’d my eye back into riding ‘properly’ I could ‘justify’ a full sus again. Truth be told I find this one just a little short even with a 45mm stem. But because it’s not intended for all day riding it doesn’t really matter enough to bother me. And with 140mm forks I’ve need to go for 10mm rise fatbars (over the 30mm ones on the SodaMAX) as even slammed it feels too high. Likewise, 29er.
Bikes are what I spend my money on and it helps my general health and well being. I’ve discovered that it’s almost essential for my mental well being as well so you need to factor that into my response.
HTH.Posted 6 months ago
Thanks @metalheart if/when I decide to change the hardtail I’ll get a demo on a Solaris back to back with my Flare. I just have a feeling I want something a little shorter etc. so it feels different enough.
I tend to ride my bike the other way round, full sus for days out in the Peak/Lakes etc. hardtail for evening rides in the woods etc.Posted 6 months ago
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